K-3 III water damage

TKPentax · 10-05-2021, 04:13 PM

I almost want to comment - How dare you!!!

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**clackers** · 10-05-2021, 06:09 PM

Originally posted by DonV

"Resistant" or "totally resistant" are meaningless words without a scientific definition;

IP ratings are the definition, Don. That's what they're for. To guarantee the end user, a specification for how waterproof a product is.

The current iPhone is certified as IP68.

If you buy a Canon or Sony or Pentax, they do not come with such a rating, there is no certifiable claim of any degree of the design being waterproof, so there's no basis for dropping one into a pool and seeing what happens.

See below:

https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/how-waterproof-is-your-phone-what-ip68-ip67...ndroid-iphone/

**clackers** · 10-05-2021, 06:18 PM

Originally posted by c.a.m

Further to my previous post (#175), I don't know what to say now...

Here's a caution from the Operating Manual for the Ricoh WG-70, a waterproof camera rated at IPX8: "Avoid contact with garbage, mud, sand, dust, water, toxic gases, or salt. These could cause the camera to breakdown. Wipe the camera to dry off any rain or water drops." (my emphasis)

There are other guidance points and cautions in the manual for the WG-70 concerning underwater use, but this specific caution is identical to the one in the K-3 Mark III manual.

So, use the WG-70 underwater at depths to 14 m for 2 hours, but avoid contact with water. Okay.

I don't mean to start a discussion about Ricoh Imaging's waterproof compacts, but just to note the inconsistencies.

- Craig

Well, Craig, I think people genuinely don't understand the hazards of water.

If you buy a customized underwater housing for more than a thousand dollars to go diving with, look what you've got to do to look after it. That includes annual replacement and maintenance of the seals by experts. Rubber perishes and is abraded away by use. None of the 'waterproof' watches I had as a kid lasted more than a year of beach and pool use . Eventually, water got past the gaskets which shrank over time.

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**DonV** · 10-05-2021, 08:16 PM

One would likely not have any problem with a waterproof camera if they keep it away from "water".

These "manuals" , and their warnings are likely written by the lowest level employees in the company- and no doubt do not translate particularly well from the original Japanese.

Not a Number · 10-05-2021, 08:20 PM - **2 Likes**

By putting the camera in a dry bag it would seem to me the OP made the assumption that the gear was not waterproof.

**tcwilson** · 10-06-2021, 08:04 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Not a Number

By putting the camera in a dry bag it would seem to me the OP made the assumption that the gear was not waterproof.

Hi. To your point, I know the camera was not "water proof," but was billed as being "weather resistant." My goal was to keep the camera as dry as possible since I knew I was taking it to a location where it was likely get wet. The bag was to provide another layer of protection, and in the event it became clear during the trip that wasn't I going to be able to use it safely, to have a safe place to store it until the trip was over.

**clackers** · 10-06-2021, 02:39 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by tcwilson

Hi. To you point, I know the camera was not "water proof," but was billed as being "weather resistant." My goal was to keep the camera as dry as possible since I knew I was taking it to a location when it likely get wet. The bag was provide another layer of protection, and in the event it became clear during the trip that wasn't I going to be able to use it safely, to have a safe place to store it until the trip was over.

So, our fellow member Normhead actually runs extended canoe trips for tourists in the Canadian wilderness. I think he's a fan of Pelican cases.

Even then, the maintenance of them includes: "Lubricate the hinges and O-ring using a silicone based lubricant. The patented Pelican O-ring seals the case to maintain the integrity of the water-tight seal. It runs along the inside lip of the case. Regularly lubricating these areas of the Pelican case will ensure a long life for your case."

Anything exposed to water with openings requires seals, and seals (like on the lens mount, SD card or battery recess openings) require checking, lubing and scheduled replacement. Who does that to their camera?

Last edited by clackers; 10-06-2021 at 03:29 PM.

**hjoseph7** · 10-07-2021, 09:55 AM