Sandy Ramirez - Pro photographer - K-1's autofocus on par with Canon 1DX

**monochrome** · 03-12-2016, 06:51 AM

Originally posted by normhead

The camera has "very surprised" a lot of people already. With this camera, I really don't really pay any attention to what people expect anymore. Someone expecting something is almost a guarantee it's not going to be the way they say it is.

In about 6 weeks there's going to be a very large chorus of 'very surprised'.

kenspo · 03-12-2016, 07:27 AM

On Af-S singel pictures i might belive it. But it is still far behind the monsters from CaNikon on AF-C. But its an awesome camera!

FantasticMrFox · 03-12-2016, 08:20 AM

Originally posted by kenspo

On Af-S singel pictures i might belive it. But it is still far behind the monsters from CaNikon on AF-C. But its an awesome camera!

Finally someone talking some sense

Some people around here seem to be all too eager to believe any kind of report that puts the K-1 up there with the likes of the D810 or 1Dx on aspects that it simply cannot compete in. It will most likely be an amazing camera and outdo CaNikon in certain other areas, but we need to stay realistic.

kenspo · 03-12-2016, 08:29 AM - **2 Likes**

Its on pair with D810 on some things, a bit below on others and a bit ahead on others. So it will for shure give D810 a beating.

But towards 1Dx and D5 etc, thats another story. K-1 will beat them on quality in pics and on DR..but will lose in all other ways.

But i can't wait to kick ass in the Photopit against the CaNikon monsters :P

beholder3 · 03-12-2016, 08:48 AM

Originally posted by FantasticMrFox

report that puts the K-1 up there with the likes of the D810

It's different cameras, but on the overall value proposition and feature set, I think there are many D810 owners who now see that their camera is no competition to a K-1 and struggle to find areas where it can keep up.

A tiny bit of niche moving target AF advantages (which for most is a gimmick only) in some areas for D810 can't excuse a complete lack of in-body stabilisation for example.

All today's cameras have extremely good AF capabilities and any mediocre or good photographer can get all the shots he wants from them.
The real differentiator for the crowd are the featureset, the price, the ergonomics the allrounder capabilities.
That all are areas where the K-1 outshines the competition.

If you wanted best AF, nobody chose a D810, but went for a Canon 5D in their price bracket.

And let's not forget the price bracket itself: A K-1 only needs to beat sub $1800 (brandnew) cameras to be a winner. And I see no competition.

Venom3300 · 03-12-2016, 08:56 AM

Originally posted by kenspo

Its on pair with D810 on some things, a bit below on others and a bit ahead on others. So it will for shure give D810 a beating.

But towards 1Dx and D5 etc, thats another story. K-1 will beat them on quality in pics and on DR..but will lose in all other ways.

But i can't wait to kick ass in the Photopit against the CaNikon monsters :P

Will it keep up with day a 7D original in AF-C? That would be enough for 99.9% of peoples needs.

kenspo · 03-12-2016, 08:59 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Venom3300

Will it keep up with day a 7D original in AF-C? That would be enough for 99.9% of peoples needs.

Its way better then K-3II..I haven't tried that Canon modell

bobell69 · 03-12-2016, 09:21 AM

I have learned over the years to temper one's enthusiasm when it comes to new models. So many times there is disappointment. However for this new body I am hopeful that the K1 will be a great success for Ricoh and that they use the K1 as an opportunity to begin to rebuild their sales locations in North America. Locally I have London Drugs that sells Ricoh Products being the K3II and the K50, but other APSC bodies or GRII's or Q's are only available by special order. Store refuses to stock anything else.

benjikan · 03-12-2016, 09:30 AM

Originally posted by Gray

Excellent news from Sandy Ramirez about the K-1's autofocus.

"the K-1 is an incredible camera. It's on par with the top of the line Canons or Nikons. Seriously I now will get myself one, a great companion to my 645Z."
(link)

Autofocus "on par and slightly more accurate than the Canon 1DX."
(link)

It looks like Pentax AF has come of age, big time.

Sandy Ramirez Photographer

Sorry, but who is Sandy Ramirez? Just wondering which Fashion Mags he has been published in as I never heard of him before. But any endorsement by a professional is good for the brand.

Can't wait to see how he fares with it.

Venom3300 · 03-12-2016, 09:35 AM

Originally posted by kenspo

Its way better then K-3II..I haven't tried that Canon modell

Same AF system as a 70D if youve even used ine of those haha.

ScooterMaxi Jim · 03-12-2016, 10:02 AM

Ben, he's gotten to do a few of these advance testings so Pentax appears to take him seriously. And the shots he's posted look pretty darn good.

I was the first to ask him about AF speed and accuracy, and when I commented that even if his experience might be a slight embellishment - as it looks to be a substantial improvement for Pentax, he very strongly asserted that there was no embellishment in his comparison with the 1DX. He had no doubts.

At the very least, it appears that Pentax has gotten very serious about AF with the 24-70. That might be at least as important as how well the K-1 performs.

**stens** · 03-12-2016, 10:16 AM

Originally posted by benjikan

Sorry, but who is Sandy Ramirez? Just wondering which Fashion Mags he has been published in as I never heard of him before. But any endorsement by a professional is good for the brand.

Can't wait to see how he fares with it.

I believe this is his website, with samples and credits: About Me - Sandy Ramirez

stevebrot · 03-12-2016, 11:20 AM

Originally posted by benjikan

Sorry, but who is Sandy Ramirez?

Originally posted by ScooterMaxi Jim

Ben, he's gotten to do a few of these advance testings so Pentax appears to take him seriously.

IIRC, he did advance testing and reviews for the 645Z and may have some degree of Pentax sponsorship.

Steve

**clackers** · 03-12-2016, 11:25 AM

Originally posted by FantasticMrFox

I assume he is referring to accuracy and AF.S speed.

No ... see Post 6 for a quote.

**Mikesul** · 03-12-2016, 11:37 AM

Ha! It looks like he also uses a Theta!

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03-12-2016, 06:51 AM	#16
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by normhead The camera has "very surprised" a lot of people already. With this camera, I really don't really pay any attention to what people expect anymore. Someone expecting something is almost a guarantee it's not going to be the way they say it is. In about 6 weeks there's going to be a very large chorus of 'very surprised'.

03-12-2016, 07:27 AM	#17
kenspo Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Oslo Posts: 2,207	On Af-S singel pictures i might belive it. But it is still far behind the monsters from CaNikon on AF-C. But its an awesome camera!

03-12-2016, 08:20 AM	#18
FantasticMrFox Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Munich Posts: 2,339	Originally posted by kenspo On Af-S singel pictures i might belive it. But it is still far behind the monsters from CaNikon on AF-C. But its an awesome camera! Finally someone talking some sense Some people around here seem to be all too eager to believe any kind of report that puts the K-1 up there with the likes of the D810 or 1Dx on aspects that it simply cannot compete in. It will most likely be an amazing camera and outdo CaNikon in certain other areas, but we need to stay realistic.

03-12-2016, 08:29 AM - 2 Likes	#19
kenspo Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Oslo Posts: 2,207	Its on pair with D810 on some things, a bit below on others and a bit ahead on others. So it will for shure give D810 a beating. But towards 1Dx and D5 etc, thats another story. K-1 will beat them on quality in pics and on DR..but will lose in all other ways. But i can't wait to kick ass in the Photopit against the CaNikon monsters :P

03-12-2016, 08:48 AM	#20
beholder3 Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 3,112	Originally posted by FantasticMrFox report that puts the K-1 up there with the likes of the D810 It's different cameras, but on the overall value proposition and feature set, I think there are many D810 owners who now see that their camera is no competition to a K-1 and struggle to find areas where it can keep up. A tiny bit of niche moving target AF advantages (which for most is a gimmick only) in some areas for D810 can't excuse a complete lack of in-body stabilisation for example. All today's cameras have extremely good AF capabilities and any mediocre or good photographer can get all the shots he wants from them. The real differentiator for the crowd are the featureset, the price, the ergonomics the allrounder capabilities. That all are areas where the K-1 outshines the competition. If you wanted best AF, nobody chose a D810, but went for a Canon 5D in their price bracket. And let's not forget the price bracket itself: A K-1 only needs to beat sub $1800 (brandnew) cameras to be a winner. And I see no competition.

03-12-2016, 08:56 AM	#21
Venom3300 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 714	Originally posted by kenspo Its on pair with D810 on some things, a bit below on others and a bit ahead on others. So it will for shure give D810 a beating. But towards 1Dx and D5 etc, thats another story. K-1 will beat them on quality in pics and on DR..but will lose in all other ways. But i can't wait to kick ass in the Photopit against the CaNikon monsters :P Will it keep up with day a 7D original in AF-C? That would be enough for 99.9% of peoples needs.

03-12-2016, 08:59 AM - 1 Like	#22
kenspo Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Oslo Posts: 2,207	Originally posted by Venom3300 Will it keep up with day a 7D original in AF-C? That would be enough for 99.9% of peoples needs. Its way better then K-3II..I haven't tried that Canon modell

03-12-2016, 09:21 AM	#23
bobell69 Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Courtenay BC Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 498	I have learned over the years to temper one's enthusiasm when it comes to new models. So many times there is disappointment. However for this new body I am hopeful that the K1 will be a great success for Ricoh and that they use the K1 as an opportunity to begin to rebuild their sales locations in North America. Locally I have London Drugs that sells Ricoh Products being the K3II and the K50, but other APSC bodies or GRII's or Q's are only available by special order. Store refuses to stock anything else.

03-12-2016, 09:30 AM	#24
benjikan Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Paris, France Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,308	Originally posted by Gray Excellent news from Sandy Ramirez about the K-1's autofocus. "the K-1 is an incredible camera. It's on par with the top of the line Canons or Nikons. Seriously I now will get myself one, a great companion to my 645Z." (link) Autofocus "on par and slightly more accurate than the Canon 1DX." (link) It looks like Pentax AF has come of age, big time. Sandy Ramirez Photographer Sorry, but who is Sandy Ramirez? Just wondering which Fashion Mags he has been published in as I never heard of him before. But any endorsement by a professional is good for the brand. Can't wait to see how he fares with it.

03-12-2016, 09:35 AM	#25
Venom3300 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 714	Originally posted by kenspo Its way better then K-3II..I haven't tried that Canon modell Same AF system as a 70D if youve even used ine of those haha.

03-12-2016, 10:02 AM	#26
ScooterMaxi Jim Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,520	Ben, he's gotten to do a few of these advance testings so Pentax appears to take him seriously. And the shots he's posted look pretty darn good. I was the first to ask him about AF speed and accuracy, and when I commented that even if his experience might be a slight embellishment - as it looks to be a substantial improvement for Pentax, he very strongly asserted that there was no embellishment in his comparison with the 1DX. He had no doubts. At the very least, it appears that Pentax has gotten very serious about AF with the 24-70. That might be at least as important as how well the K-1 performs.

03-12-2016, 10:16 AM	#27
stens Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Minnesota, USA Posts: 61	Originally posted by benjikan Sorry, but who is Sandy Ramirez? Just wondering which Fashion Mags he has been published in as I never heard of him before. But any endorsement by a professional is good for the brand. Can't wait to see how he fares with it. I believe this is his website, with samples and credits: About Me - Sandy Ramirez

03-12-2016, 11:20 AM	#28
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by benjikan Sorry, but who is Sandy Ramirez? Originally posted by ScooterMaxi Jim Ben, he's gotten to do a few of these advance testings so Pentax appears to take him seriously. IIRC, he did advance testing and reviews for the 645Z and may have some degree of Pentax sponsorship. Steve

03-12-2016, 11:25 AM	#29
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	Originally posted by FantasticMrFox I assume he is referring to accuracy and AF.S speed. No ... see Post 6 for a quote.

03-12-2016, 11:37 AM	#30
Mikesul Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 7,594	Ha! It looks like he also uses a Theta!