K-1 and Adobe Camera RAW Color profiles

Unregistered User · 06-12-2016, 12:37 PM - **1 Like**

I have been struggeling with the colors in Camera RAW since they have not matched the color comming out of the camera.

Today I stumbled on something I have not seen since the K10d. Color profiles. Now, in ACR 9.6, you can choose between Adobe Standard, Camera Bright, Landscape and so on.

I found one that matches almost perfect

Well, the Camera Bright.

You find these under the Camera Tab

**stevebrot** · 06-12-2016, 01:33 PM

This is very cool! The camera profiles in Lightroom and ACR are created by Adobe with assistance from the manufacturers. The presence of other than Adobe Standard and embedded indicate better cooperation between Ricoh and tool venders. Woo! Hoo!

Steve

Paul the Sunman · 06-12-2016, 02:17 PM

Originally posted by Tjompen1968

I have been struggeling with the colors in Camera RAW since they have not matched the color comming out of the camera.

Today I stumbled on something I have not seen since the K10d. Color profiles. Now, in ACR 9.6, you can choose between Adobe Standard, Camera Bright, Landscape and so on.

I found one that matches almost perfect

Well, the Camera Bright.

You find these under the Camera Tab

In Lightroom? I can't see it. Under "Camera Calibration" in the Develop module, I only see Embedded and Adobe Standard. What am I doing wrong?

Unregistered User · 06-12-2016, 02:34 PM

Originally posted by Paul the Sunman

In Lightroom? I can't see it. Under "Camera Calibration" in the Develop module, I only see Embedded and Adobe Standard. What am I doing wrong?

Do you have the latest version of Lightroom? Are you opening a K-1 raw file?

Paul the Sunman · 06-12-2016, 02:43 PM

Originally posted by Tjompen1968

Do you have the latest version of Lightroom? Are you opening a K-1 raw file?

Latest Lightroom, ... but K3. Sorry, I didn't pick up that this was K1-dependent.

Unregistered User · 06-12-2016, 03:07 PM

K-1 and K-3II.

For the K-3 I had to do my own profiles.

MadMathMind · 06-12-2016, 08:41 PM

An utter godsend, FINALLY. This was one of the biggest negatives I had with Pentax is that I spend forever in post doing the color because it has to be done totally from scratch. The WB on the K-1 is generally accurate so this helps a lot.

alexeyga · 06-13-2016, 06:47 AM

Guys why don't you check out the Huelight profiles? It's still not even close to what an average Nikon user has access to in LR, but it's a lot better than only being stuck to the default and embedded ones.

K1 profiles have just been added

Unregistered User · 06-13-2016, 06:58 AM

Originally posted by alexeyga

Guys why don't you check out the Huelight profiles? It's still not even close to what an average Nikon user has access to in LR, but it's a lot better than only being stuck to the default and embedded ones.

K1 profiles have just been added

I do not understand. Now we have the corresponding color profiles for the K-1.

**stevebrot** · 06-13-2016, 07:24 AM

Originally posted by Tjompen1968

I do not understand. Now we have the corresponding color profiles for the K-1.

Huelight profiles have their fans regardless of what Adobe provides. It is unfortunate that one purchases a "pig in the poke" when dealing with them and that user descriptions generally follow the pattern, "much better colors", "more punch", "don't need global exposure contrast" and so on. The price is right, however

FWIW, I wonder if it is possible to extract the embedded profiles from the DNG and package them up as dcp?

Steve

**stevebrot** · 06-13-2016, 07:25 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by stevebrot

FWIW, I wonder if it is possible to extract the embedded profiles from the DNG and package them up as dcp.

I think I may give this tool a try:

dcpTool on SourceForge

Steve

Unregistered User · 06-13-2016, 07:39 AM

Originally posted by stevebrot

Huelight profiles have their fans regardless of what Adobe provides. It is unfortunate that one purchases a "pig in the poke" when dealing with them and that user descriptions generally follow the pattern, "much better colors", "more punch", "don't need global exposure contrast" and so on. The price is right, however

FWIW, I wonder if it is possible to extract the embedded profiles from the DNG and package them up as XML.

Steve

The "problem" with xml is that they become a preset instead of a profile. I used Adobes own program for creating colour profiles for the K-3 since the Adobe rendering was kind of dull "uncorrect". It took alot of tweaking before I was finished and I was trying to edit the sliders for the K-1 with not so much luck so I was about to start the program and create my own colour profile when I stumbled on the new choises in the new update.

**stevebrot** · 06-13-2016, 07:50 AM

Originally posted by Tjompen1968

The "problem" with xml is that they become a preset instead of a profile. I used Adobes own program for creating colour profiles for the K-3 since the Adobe rendering was kind of dull "uncorrect". It took alot of tweaking before I was finished and I was trying to edit the sliders for the K-1 with not so much luck so I was about to start the program and create my own colour profile when I stumbled on the new choises in the new update.

You are right regarding the XML...I edited before you posted. Sorry

The dcpTool program looks promising. If I have success, I will follow up with a post to the processing software section of this site.

Steve

SamuelDixon · 08-09-2016, 05:25 PM

Originally posted by stevebrot

You are right regarding the XML...I edited before you posted. Sorry

The dcpTool program looks promising. If I have success, I will follow up with a post to the processing software section of this site.

Steve

You have any luck?

Maybe we should start a K1 lightroom profile sharing thread? The adobe ones are garbage.

**stevebrot** · 08-09-2016, 05:30 PM

Originally posted by SamuelDixon

You have any luck?

Nope...no luck...

Steve

06-12-2016, 12:37 PM - 1 Like	#1
Unregistered User Guest	K-1 and Adobe Camera RAW Color profiles I have been struggeling with the colors in Camera RAW since they have not matched the color comming out of the camera. Today I stumbled on something I have not seen since the K10d. Color profiles. Now, in ACR 9.6, you can choose between Adobe Standard, Camera Bright, Landscape and so on. I found one that matches almost perfect Well, the Camera Bright. You find these under the Camera Tab

06-13-2016, 07:24 AM	#10
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by Tjompen1968 I do not understand. Now we have the corresponding color profiles for the K-1. Huelight profiles have their fans regardless of what Adobe provides. It is unfortunate that one purchases a "pig in the poke" when dealing with them and that user descriptions generally follow the pattern, "much better colors", "more punch", "don't need global exposure contrast" and so on. The price is right, however FWIW, I wonder if it is possible to extract the embedded profiles from the DNG and package them up as dcp? Steve Last edited by stevebrot; 06-13-2016 at 07:40 AM.

06-13-2016, 07:25 AM - 1 Like	#11
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by stevebrot FWIW, I wonder if it is possible to extract the embedded profiles from the DNG and package them up as dcp. I think I may give this tool a try: dcpTool on SourceForge Steve Last edited by stevebrot; 06-13-2016 at 07:40 AM.

06-13-2016, 07:50 AM	#13
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by Tjompen1968 The "problem" with xml is that they become a preset instead of a profile. I used Adobes own program for creating colour profiles for the K-3 since the Adobe rendering was kind of dull "uncorrect". It took alot of tweaking before I was finished and I was trying to edit the sliders for the K-1 with not so much luck so I was about to start the program and create my own colour profile when I stumbled on the new choises in the new update. You are right regarding the XML...I edited before you posted. Sorry The dcpTool program looks promising. If I have success, I will follow up with a post to the processing software section of this site. Steve Last edited by stevebrot; 06-13-2016 at 08:20 AM.

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06-12-2016, 01:33 PM	#2
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	This is very cool! The camera profiles in Lightroom and ACR are created by Adobe with assistance from the manufacturers. The presence of other than Adobe Standard and embedded indicate better cooperation between Ricoh and tool venders. Woo! Hoo! Steve

06-12-2016, 02:17 PM	#3
Paul the Sunman Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Melbourne Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,388	Originally posted by Tjompen1968 I have been struggeling with the colors in Camera RAW since they have not matched the color comming out of the camera. Today I stumbled on something I have not seen since the K10d. Color profiles. Now, in ACR 9.6, you can choose between Adobe Standard, Camera Bright, Landscape and so on. I found one that matches almost perfect Well, the Camera Bright. You find these under the Camera Tab In Lightroom? I can't see it. Under "Camera Calibration" in the Develop module, I only see Embedded and Adobe Standard. What am I doing wrong?

06-12-2016, 02:34 PM	#4
Unregistered User Guest	Originally posted by Paul the Sunman In Lightroom? I can't see it. Under "Camera Calibration" in the Develop module, I only see Embedded and Adobe Standard. What am I doing wrong? Do you have the latest version of Lightroom? Are you opening a K-1 raw file?

06-12-2016, 02:43 PM	#5
Paul the Sunman Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Melbourne Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,388	Originally posted by Tjompen1968 Do you have the latest version of Lightroom? Are you opening a K-1 raw file? Latest Lightroom, ... but K3. Sorry, I didn't pick up that this was K1-dependent.

06-12-2016, 03:07 PM	#6
Unregistered User Guest	K-1 and K-3II. For the K-3 I had to do my own profiles.

06-12-2016, 08:41 PM	#7
MadMathMind Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Houston, TX Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,717	An utter godsend, FINALLY. This was one of the biggest negatives I had with Pentax is that I spend forever in post doing the color because it has to be done totally from scratch. The WB on the K-1 is generally accurate so this helps a lot.

06-13-2016, 06:47 AM	#8
alexeyga Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 838	Guys why don't you check out the Huelight profiles? It's still not even close to what an average Nikon user has access to in LR, but it's a lot better than only being stuck to the default and embedded ones. K1 profiles have just been added

06-13-2016, 06:58 AM	#9
Unregistered User Guest	Originally posted by alexeyga Guys why don't you check out the Huelight profiles? It's still not even close to what an average Nikon user has access to in LR, but it's a lot better than only being stuck to the default and embedded ones. K1 profiles have just been added I do not understand. Now we have the corresponding color profiles for the K-1.

06-13-2016, 07:39 AM	#12
Unregistered User Guest	Originally posted by stevebrot Huelight profiles have their fans regardless of what Adobe provides. It is unfortunate that one purchases a "pig in the poke" when dealing with them and that user descriptions generally follow the pattern, "much better colors", "more punch", "don't need global exposure contrast" and so on. The price is right, however FWIW, I wonder if it is possible to extract the embedded profiles from the DNG and package them up as XML. Steve The "problem" with xml is that they become a preset instead of a profile. I used Adobes own program for creating colour profiles for the K-3 since the Adobe rendering was kind of dull "uncorrect". It took alot of tweaking before I was finished and I was trying to edit the sliders for the K-1 with not so much luck so I was about to start the program and create my own colour profile when I stumbled on the new choises in the new update.

08-09-2016, 05:25 PM	#14
SamuelDixon Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Washington DC Posts: 46	Originally posted by stevebrot You are right regarding the XML...I edited before you posted. Sorry The dcpTool program looks promising. If I have success, I will follow up with a post to the processing software section of this site. Steve You have any luck? Maybe we should start a K1 lightroom profile sharing thread? The adobe ones are garbage.

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08-09-2016, 05:30 PM	#15
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by SamuelDixon You have any luck? Nope...no luck... Steve