Originally posted by MJKoski I can share fair amount of examples using mentioned cameras but that kind of attitude killed any motivation to do so. J
What is your issue, MJKoski? You claim comparisons but don't present solid proof.
Unless you actually provide raws to support your claim you seem to be an incompetent liar / troll only, thanks to your underskilled opening post. If you lack the "motivation" to show you didn't lie and it's just your lack of skill that is behind it, fine. If you don't present raws of the exact same scene taken side by side with same exposure parameters and camera temperatures to support your claims you automatically prove you lied. It's that easy.
It's already telling you did not do so without external reminder in your opening post.
If you consider LENR a "trick" you should go back and start to learn the basics.
It is not any news that a tiny bit of noise happens in long exposures in all cameras and it is far from being any issue aside from the normal issue between the ears of users. That is what dark frame subtraction (= LENR) is for: for removing white and red and blue and green hot pixels.
If we ever see any camera which does not produce noise in a long exposure we know the manufacturer has screwed around in the raw data. It's super easy for them to do that, but it is clearly
unwanted.
So far all we see is JPGs of people claiming things with no comparison data available. The failure apologists could claim the earth is flat based on some JPG "proof" just as easily.
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Originally posted by D1N0 I see different behaviour from k-5 to k-1
K-1 removes not only white dots but also red and blue ones making the noise cleaner.
DFS is supposed to do just that.
To compare to a K-5 the K-1 image part has to be resized otherwise you only compare different magnifications.