Pentax K-1 loves the FA 77mm limited

**mattb123** · 12-12-2016, 08:24 AM

Yes, focus can be a little tricky sometimes but when you nail it magic is made. Count me in as a fan of that combo as well.

**pentaman** · 12-28-2016, 05:27 PM

I have always loved 77mm on APS-C bodies, but on K-1, I was I blown away by how easy it seemed to capture beautiful pictures. In fact, I chose it as my first lens to try on my new K-1. I'd say nothing less than magic.

beholder3 · 12-29-2016, 11:10 AM

Originally posted by pentaman

on K-1, I was I blown away by how easy it seemed to capture beautiful pictures. In fact, I chose it as my first lens to try on my new K-1. I'd say nothing less than magic.

Definitely. And it also is so beautifully inconspicious.

No comparison to the clunky and in-your-face 85mm primes you can get in mainstreamland.

BigBangPhotography · 03-02-2018, 05:45 PM

Hi all,

I'm currently using the 77mm on my K3-ii and absolutely love it! I'm considering upgrading to the K-1 and I have been wondering if the actual focal length would change due to the FF sensor compared to the APSC sensor? If so would the lens work as a wider lens on the K1? and if so what would the resulting focal length be? I currently use the lens for half body portraits and I'd like to gauge an idea of how much wider this lens would feel, i.e if I stood at the same spot, would this lens still be a half body portrait lens or would it become say 3/4th body portraits?

**pentaman** · 03-02-2018, 06:03 PM

I love 77 and K-1 combo as well. However, having owned FA77 for about 10 years, I am for the first time finding "purple fringing" on many of my pictures. They are easy to get rid of in LightRoom, but still an annoyance. Anyone else have this issue?

FYI, the lens did great on K-7 and K-5 as well, and not a single instance of purple fringing.

**monochrome** · 03-02-2018, 06:34 PM

Originally posted by BigBangPhotography

Hi all,

I'm currently using the 77mm on my K3-ii and absolutely love it! I'm considering upgrading to the K-1 and I have been wondering if the actual focal length would change due to the FF sensor compared to the APSC sensor? If so would the lens work as a wider lens on the K1? and if so what would the resulting focal length be? I currently use the lens for half body portraits and I'd like to gauge an idea of how much wider this lens would feel, i.e if I stood at the same spot, would this lens still be a half body portrait lens or would it become say 3/4th body portraits?

A 77mm lens is a 77mm lens. On an APSc sensor your 77mm lens has a FoV pretty close to what a 105mm lens would on a FF, if that is what you are asking.

The Lens Review has Field of View data for the FA77 on both APSc and FF.

builttospill · 03-02-2018, 06:40 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by BigBangPhotography

Hi all,

I'm currently using the 77mm on my K3-ii and absolutely love it! I'm considering upgrading to the K-1 and I have been wondering if the actual focal length would change due to the FF sensor compared to the APSC sensor? If so would the lens work as a wider lens on the K1? and if so what would the resulting focal length be? I currently use the lens for half body portraits and I'd like to gauge an idea of how much wider this lens would feel, i.e if I stood at the same spot, would this lens still be a half body portrait lens or would it become say 3/4th body portraits?

A 77mm lens has a focal length of 77mm whether it's mounted to a Q, an APS-C, or FF camera. The only thing that changes focal length would be a teleconverter. The angle of view would be wider on the K-1 compared to the K-3 ii.

A lens projects an image circle onto the sensor. Depending on the sensor size, the image has a wider or narrower field of view. The image from Google below shows an example of this in Nikon's FX (FF) and DX (APS-C) sensor sizes. The subject is the same size in both because focal length doesn't change.

You may read about a DA lens vignetting on the K-1. That's because the image circle projected onto the sensor isn't big enough, so corners are black. This is typically why FF lenses are slightly larger and heavier than APS-C lenses. Here's another example from Google:

LeRolls · 03-02-2018, 10:17 PM - **12 Likes**

I prefer the bokeh on the 85 1.4 but I occasionally slap the 77 on my K-1

Class A · 03-06-2018, 06:26 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by BigBangPhotography

If so would the lens work as a wider lens on the K1?

Yes, the 77/1.8 on a K-1 looks like a 51mm looks like on APS-C.

So if you like the look of a 50mm on an APS-C camera, you'll like the look of the 77/1.8.

The classic portrait focal length is 85mm (on FF) but the Pentax engineers deliberately went for less perspective flattening; a move that I wholeheartedly support.

**Rondec** · 03-07-2018, 04:17 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by BigBangPhotography

Hi all,

I'm currently using the 77mm on my K3-ii and absolutely love it! I'm considering upgrading to the K-1 and I have been wondering if the actual focal length would change due to the FF sensor compared to the APSC sensor? If so would the lens work as a wider lens on the K1? and if so what would the resulting focal length be? I currently use the lens for half body portraits and I'd like to gauge an idea of how much wider this lens would feel, i.e if I stood at the same spot, would this lens still be a half body portrait lens or would it become say 3/4th body portraits?

What the others said is right. Basically, your K3 II crops out the edges of the image circle that the FA 77 can see. Shooting it on a full frame camera opens those edges up. If you mount a 50mm lens on your K3 II that is roughly the angle of view that you will see with the FA 77 on a K-1.

is.queeg · 06-21-2018, 08:15 AM

Originally posted by BigBangPhotography

I currently use the lens for half body portraits and I'd like to gauge an idea of how much wider this lens would feel, i.e if I stood at the same spot, would this lens still be a half body portrait lens or would it become say 3/4th body portraits?

I've quickly shot same scine with FA 77/1.8 on K-1 an K-20D. Just to give you some idea, it isn't very precise way to compare.

K-1 77/1.8 - Album on Imgur

zapp · 07-05-2018, 09:51 AM

The results you can get with 77mm on K1 are great. And somehow I am OK with the fact that Penatx is not able to deliver a fast 85, so I can capitalize on my 77 a little longer.

That does not mean the lens is pefect. AF performance of the lens is horrible - try AF tracking mode and make it whine. I also assume that 19 years after release an update would not harm at all. Should we mention weather resistence, electronic diaphragm...

**Mikesul** · 07-05-2018, 10:49 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by zapp

The results you can get with 77mm on K1 are great. And somehow I am OK with the fact that Penatx is not able to deliver a fast 85, so I can capitalize on my 77 a little longer.

That does not mean the lens is pefect. AF performance of the lens is horrible - try AF tracking mode and make it whine. I also assume that 19 years after release an update would not harm at all. Should we mention weather resistence, electronic diaphragm...

Just a reminder that Pentax already delivered a very fine fast 85 the FA*85 1.4. Check out the Lens Club. See what LeRolls does with it.

pschlute · 07-05-2018, 11:18 AM - **2 Likes**

I love the 77mm with the K1 (and totally agree with the comments on the FA* 85 1.4)

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mattb123 Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Colorado High Country Photos: Gallery Posts: 10,650	Yes, focus can be a little tricky sometimes but when you nail it magic is made. Count me in as a fan of that combo as well.

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pentaman Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2009 Photos: Albums Posts: 253	I have always loved 77mm on APS-C bodies, but on K-1, I was I blown away by how easy it seemed to capture beautiful pictures. In fact, I chose it as my first lens to try on my new K-1. I'd say nothing less than magic.

12-29-2016, 11:10 AM	#18
beholder3 Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 3,094 Original Poster	Originally posted by pentaman on K-1, I was I blown away by how easy it seemed to capture beautiful pictures. In fact, I chose it as my first lens to try on my new K-1. I'd say nothing less than magic. Definitely. And it also is so beautifully inconspicious. No comparison to the clunky and in-your-face 85mm primes you can get in mainstreamland.

03-02-2018, 05:45 PM	#19
BigBangPhotography New Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 15	Hi all, I'm currently using the 77mm on my K3-ii and absolutely love it! I'm considering upgrading to the K-1 and I have been wondering if the actual focal length would change due to the FF sensor compared to the APSC sensor? If so would the lens work as a wider lens on the K1? and if so what would the resulting focal length be? I currently use the lens for half body portraits and I'd like to gauge an idea of how much wider this lens would feel, i.e if I stood at the same spot, would this lens still be a half body portrait lens or would it become say 3/4th body portraits?

03-02-2018, 06:03 PM	#20
pentaman Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2009 Photos: Albums Posts: 253	I love 77 and K-1 combo as well. However, having owned FA77 for about 10 years, I am for the first time finding "purple fringing" on many of my pictures. They are easy to get rid of in LightRoom, but still an annoyance. Anyone else have this issue? FYI, the lens did great on K-7 and K-5 as well, and not a single instance of purple fringing.

03-02-2018, 06:34 PM	#21
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by BigBangPhotography Hi all, I'm currently using the 77mm on my K3-ii and absolutely love it! I'm considering upgrading to the K-1 and I have been wondering if the actual focal length would change due to the FF sensor compared to the APSC sensor? If so would the lens work as a wider lens on the K1? and if so what would the resulting focal length be? I currently use the lens for half body portraits and I'd like to gauge an idea of how much wider this lens would feel, i.e if I stood at the same spot, would this lens still be a half body portrait lens or would it become say 3/4th body portraits? A 77mm lens is a 77mm lens. On an APSc sensor your 77mm lens has a FoV pretty close to what a 105mm lens would on a FF, if that is what you are asking. The Lens Review has Field of View data for the FA77 on both APSc and FF.

03-02-2018, 06:40 PM - 1 Like	#22
builttospill Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Utah, Idaho Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,217	Originally posted by BigBangPhotography Hi all, I'm currently using the 77mm on my K3-ii and absolutely love it! I'm considering upgrading to the K-1 and I have been wondering if the actual focal length would change due to the FF sensor compared to the APSC sensor? If so would the lens work as a wider lens on the K1? and if so what would the resulting focal length be? I currently use the lens for half body portraits and I'd like to gauge an idea of how much wider this lens would feel, i.e if I stood at the same spot, would this lens still be a half body portrait lens or would it become say 3/4th body portraits? A 77mm lens has a focal length of 77mm whether it's mounted to a Q, an APS-C, or FF camera. The only thing that changes focal length would be a teleconverter. The angle of view would be wider on the K-1 compared to the K-3 ii. A lens projects an image circle onto the sensor. Depending on the sensor size, the image has a wider or narrower field of view. The image from Google below shows an example of this in Nikon's FX (FF) and DX (APS-C) sensor sizes. The subject is the same size in both because focal length doesn't change. You may read about a DA lens vignetting on the K-1. That's because the image circle projected onto the sensor isn't big enough, so corners are black. This is typically why FF lenses are slightly larger and heavier than APS-C lenses. Here's another example from Google:

03-02-2018, 10:17 PM - 12 Likes	#23
LeRolls Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: PSL, FL Posts: 4,415	I prefer the bokeh on the 85 1.4 but I occasionally slap the 77 on my K-1

03-06-2018, 06:26 PM - 1 Like	#24
Class A Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 11,213	Originally posted by BigBangPhotography If so would the lens work as a wider lens on the K1? Yes, the 77/1.8 on a K-1 looks like a 51mm looks like on APS-C. So if you like the look of a 50mm on an APS-C camera, you'll like the look of the 77/1.8. The classic portrait focal length is 85mm (on FF) but the Pentax engineers deliberately went for less perspective flattening; a move that I wholeheartedly support.

03-07-2018, 04:17 AM - 2 Likes	#25
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 26,084	Originally posted by BigBangPhotography Hi all, I'm currently using the 77mm on my K3-ii and absolutely love it! I'm considering upgrading to the K-1 and I have been wondering if the actual focal length would change due to the FF sensor compared to the APSC sensor? If so would the lens work as a wider lens on the K1? and if so what would the resulting focal length be? I currently use the lens for half body portraits and I'd like to gauge an idea of how much wider this lens would feel, i.e if I stood at the same spot, would this lens still be a half body portrait lens or would it become say 3/4th body portraits? What the others said is right. Basically, your K3 II crops out the edges of the image circle that the FA 77 can see. Shooting it on a full frame camera opens those edges up. If you mount a 50mm lens on your K3 II that is roughly the angle of view that you will see with the FA 77 on a K-1.

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06-21-2018, 08:15 AM	#26
is.queeg New Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 6	Originally posted by BigBangPhotography I currently use the lens for half body portraits and I'd like to gauge an idea of how much wider this lens would feel, i.e if I stood at the same spot, would this lens still be a half body portrait lens or would it become say 3/4th body portraits? I've quickly shot same scine with FA 77/1.8 on K-1 an K-20D. Just to give you some idea, it isn't very precise way to compare. K-1 77/1.8 - Album on Imgur

07-05-2018, 09:51 AM	#27
zapp Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,153	The results you can get with 77mm on K1 are great. And somehow I am OK with the fact that Penatx is not able to deliver a fast 85, so I can capitalize on my 77 a little longer. That does not mean the lens is pefect. AF performance of the lens is horrible - try AF tracking mode and make it whine. I also assume that 19 years after release an update would not harm at all. Should we mention weather resistence, electronic diaphragm...

07-05-2018, 10:49 AM - 1 Like	#28
Mikesul Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 7,129	Originally posted by zapp The results you can get with 77mm on K1 are great. And somehow I am OK with the fact that Penatx is not able to deliver a fast 85, so I can capitalize on my 77 a little longer. That does not mean the lens is pefect. AF performance of the lens is horrible - try AF tracking mode and make it whine. I also assume that 19 years after release an update would not harm at all. Should we mention weather resistence, electronic diaphragm... Just a reminder that Pentax already delivered a very fine fast 85 the FA*85 1.4. Check out the Lens Club. See what LeRolls does with it.

07-05-2018, 11:18 AM - 2 Likes	#29
pschlute Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Surrey, UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,548	I love the 77mm with the K1 (and totally agree with the comments on the FA* 85 1.4)