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Gimbal · 11-17-2016, 11:08 AM

So I've installed the new firmware and it seems to be working.
But when in bulb mode and live view, there is this small icon down to the right with the green button and a timer/clock and the text ON/OFF.
Isn't the ON/OFF display logic a bit backwards?
When the timer function is ON the icon with the timer states OFF, and vice verse.

One could explain it as "press the green button to enter the new state showed by the text." but that is backwards IMO. The SR symbol states OFF when it is OFF, so it would be logical for the timer symbol to also state OFF when it is OFF.

Not a big deal of course, but just something I noticed...

Unregistered User · 11-17-2016, 11:21 AM

Originally posted by Gimbal

So I've installed the new firmware and it seems to be working.
But when in bulb mode and live view, there is this small icon down to the right with the green button and a timer/clock and the text ON/OFF.
Isn't the ON/OFF display logic a bit backwards?
When the timer function is ON the icon with the timer states OFF, and vice verse.

One could explain it as "press the green button to enter the new state showed by the text." but that is backwards IMO. The SR symbol states OFF when it is OFF, so it would be logical for the timer symbol to also state OFF when it is OFF.

Not a big deal of course, but just something I noticed...

And I found it to be as logical as the Astrotracer/Bulb toggle

**lithedreamer** · 11-17-2016, 11:24 AM

Originally posted by Tjompen1968

And I found it to be as logical as the Astrotracer/Bulb toggle

Same. It's the logical extension of a button that says 'Off' while the camera is turned on, versus a button that says 'On' while the camera is turned on.

Unregistered User · 11-17-2016, 11:24 AM

And after playing a little more with it I totally agree with you. It is not logical. Same goes for the Astrotracer/Bulb...

fromunderthebridge · 11-17-2016, 01:36 PM

Btw. I also tried to replicate the white dot issue on the white dot thread with my camera with v1.0 firmware. I was not affected (at least I did not get same results that affected people seemed to get with similar settings) so the problem apparently seems to be on a unit to unit. In short I don't think it's just "ignorance" that many people shoot away happily without experiencing the problem.

But yeah, please lets continue this on the white dot thread if it is necessary, otherwise this will end up in a threadjack that I apparently contributed to just now (oops).

rcolman · 11-17-2016, 02:48 PM

I may have jumped the gun on 1.4 If the "noise reduction" is limited to JPG only, then GOOD. I dont need a repeat of the STAR EATER problem.

Also, for the record, I have never seen a hot pixel or "white dot" problem on my K-1.

R.

kenspo · 11-23-2016, 12:21 AM

I have 2 of the earliest bodies..No issues here

tabl10s · 11-23-2016, 01:01 AM

Originally posted by kenspo

I have 2 of the earliest bodies..No issues here

I stated the same thing about the K-5 button issue, then one day....

hadi · 11-29-2016, 08:42 AM

maybe i'm doing something wrong, but with the 1.4 update, i cant seem to make liveview shoot with a flash. what gives?
i tried the 1/200, the 1/180, or even 1/50 or whatever, and nothing seems to work. as soon as i turn liveview off, flash fires just fine.

phoebus · 11-29-2016, 09:34 AM

If you activate 'LV Electronic Shutter' (Menu page 2, first item) you disable flash... That change came in 1.30 http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/support/digital/pdf/K-1_Ver.1.30_Deta...d_features.pdf In the middle of the pdf page there is a long list under 'Caution:'

The pdf is locked, so I can't copy the text and paste it here.

Hope that solves the problem for you!

**lithedreamer** · 11-29-2016, 11:19 AM

Originally posted by phoebus

If you activate 'LV Electronic Shutter' (Menu page 2, first item) you disable flash... That change came in 1.30 http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/support/digital/pdf/K-1_Ver.1.30_Deta...d_features.pdf In the middle of the pdf page there is a long list under 'Caution:'

The pdf is locked, so I can't copy the text and paste it here.

Hope that solves the problem for you!

I'm not sure what you mean by the PDF being locked, I was able to copy and paste this easily, but thanks for finding the link:

Caution:
*The drive mode that can be used with Electronic Shutter are single frame shooting, Self-timer shooting (12s/2s), Remote Control shooting(Immediate/3s), Mirror up shooting and Multiple exposure.
*The Shake Reduction function is fixed to OFF. 
*The HDR mode cannot use with Electronic Shutter.
 *The external flash is fixed to off (will not discharge)
 *The moving subject may be distorted on the image. 
*The flicker of fluorescent lamp or heavy movement of the subject may cause the corrupt image.

phoebus · 11-30-2016, 04:45 PM

Originally posted by lithedreamer

I'm not sure what you mean by the PDF being locked, I was able to copy and paste this easily, but thanks for finding the link:
...

I tried Adobe reader in text mode and screen capture, then Coreldraw. No dice... Glad you got it to work. Hope it helps the OP.

:-)

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11-17-2016, 11:08 AM	#76
Gimbal Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 2,106	So I've installed the new firmware and it seems to be working. But when in bulb mode and live view, there is this small icon down to the right with the green button and a timer/clock and the text ON/OFF. Isn't the ON/OFF display logic a bit backwards? When the timer function is ON the icon with the timer states OFF, and vice verse. One could explain it as "press the green button to enter the new state showed by the text." but that is backwards IMO. The SR symbol states OFF when it is OFF, so it would be logical for the timer symbol to also state OFF when it is OFF. Not a big deal of course, but just something I noticed...

11-17-2016, 11:21 AM	#77
Unregistered User Guest	Originally posted by Gimbal So I've installed the new firmware and it seems to be working. But when in bulb mode and live view, there is this small icon down to the right with the green button and a timer/clock and the text ON/OFF. Isn't the ON/OFF display logic a bit backwards? When the timer function is ON the icon with the timer states OFF, and vice verse. One could explain it as "press the green button to enter the new state showed by the text." but that is backwards IMO. The SR symbol states OFF when it is OFF, so it would be logical for the timer symbol to also state OFF when it is OFF. Not a big deal of course, but just something I noticed... And I found it to be as logical as the Astrotracer/Bulb toggle

11-17-2016, 11:24 AM	#78
lithedreamer Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2013 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,799	Originally posted by Tjompen1968 And I found it to be as logical as the Astrotracer/Bulb toggle Same. It's the logical extension of a button that says 'Off' while the camera is turned on, versus a button that says 'On' while the camera is turned on.

11-17-2016, 11:24 AM	#79
Unregistered User Guest	And after playing a little more with it I totally agree with you. It is not logical. Same goes for the Astrotracer/Bulb...

11-17-2016, 01:36 PM	#80
fromunderthebridge Senior Member Join Date: May 2014 Photos: Gallery Posts: 181	Btw. I also tried to replicate the white dot issue on the white dot thread with my camera with v1.0 firmware. I was not affected (at least I did not get same results that affected people seemed to get with similar settings) so the problem apparently seems to be on a unit to unit. In short I don't think it's just "ignorance" that many people shoot away happily without experiencing the problem. But yeah, please lets continue this on the white dot thread if it is necessary, otherwise this will end up in a threadjack that I apparently contributed to just now (oops).

11-17-2016, 02:48 PM	#81
rcolman Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Photos: Albums Posts: 118	I may have jumped the gun on 1.4 If the "noise reduction" is limited to JPG only, then GOOD. I dont need a repeat of the STAR EATER problem. Also, for the record, I have never seen a hot pixel or "white dot" problem on my K-1. R.

11-23-2016, 12:21 AM	#82
kenspo Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Oslo Posts: 2,207	I have 2 of the earliest bodies..No issues here

11-23-2016, 01:01 AM	#83
tabl10s Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Sacramento(formerly from B'Ham, England). Posts: 1,424	Originally posted by kenspo I have 2 of the earliest bodies..No issues here I stated the same thing about the K-5 button issue, then one day....

11-29-2016, 08:42 AM	#84
hadi Veteran Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Mississauga, Ontario Posts: 563	maybe i'm doing something wrong, but with the 1.4 update, i cant seem to make liveview shoot with a flash. what gives? i tried the 1/200, the 1/180, or even 1/50 or whatever, and nothing seems to work. as soon as i turn liveview off, flash fires just fine.

11-29-2016, 09:34 AM	#85
phoebus Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Buckinghamshire (UK) / Morbihan (FR) Photos: Gallery Posts: 470	If you activate 'LV Electronic Shutter' (Menu page 2, first item) you disable flash... That change came in 1.30 http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/support/digital/pdf/K-1_Ver.1.30_Deta...d_features.pdf In the middle of the pdf page there is a long list under 'Caution:' The pdf is locked, so I can't copy the text and paste it here. Hope that solves the problem for you!

11-29-2016, 11:19 AM	#86
lithedreamer Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2013 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,799	Originally posted by phoebus If you activate 'LV Electronic Shutter' (Menu page 2, first item) you disable flash... That change came in 1.30 http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/support/digital/pdf/K-1_Ver.1.30_Deta...d_features.pdf In the middle of the pdf page there is a long list under 'Caution:' The pdf is locked, so I can't copy the text and paste it here. Hope that solves the problem for you! I'm not sure what you mean by the PDF being locked, I was able to copy and paste this easily, but thanks for finding the link: Caution: The drive mode that can be used with Electronic Shutter are single frame shooting, Self-timer shooting (12s/2s), Remote Control shooting(Immediate/3s), Mirror up shooting and Multiple exposure. The Shake Reduction function is fixed to OFF.  The HDR mode cannot use with Electronic Shutter.  The external flash is fixed to off (will not discharge)  The moving subject may be distorted on the image.  The flicker of fluorescent lamp or heavy movement of the subject may cause the corrupt image.

11-30-2016, 04:45 PM	#87
phoebus Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Buckinghamshire (UK) / Morbihan (FR) Photos: Gallery Posts: 470	Originally posted by lithedreamer I'm not sure what you mean by the PDF being locked, I was able to copy and paste this easily, but thanks for finding the link: ... I tried Adobe reader in text mode and screen capture, then Coreldraw. No dice... Glad you got it to work. Hope it helps the OP. :-)

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