K1 green mode (full auto) and semi-auto

biz-engineer · 04-23-2018, 02:27 PM - **1 Like**

Last week I did an experiment: shoot the same subject outdoor with the green mode and also using Av or TAv mode with setting Auto WB and Auto selection of style, and exposure. I couldn't get the panel of colors produced by the green mode. I was expecting that auto style selection would produce the same rendering. No way. Did I forget something in the auto settings when not in green mode?

pid · 04-23-2018, 02:49 PM - **1 Like**

did you try the CTE(white balance)? You will get great green and warm red tones

photoptimist · 04-23-2018, 02:53 PM

Is there a chance that Green mode adjusts a lot more settings (clarity, saturation, contrast, etc.) based on some automagical analysis of the scene? (And if it does then perhaps the details are deep in the EXIF someplace.)

biz-engineer · 04-23-2018, 03:09 PM

Originally posted by pid

did you try the CTE(white balance)? You will get great green and warm red tones

I've tried TAv and CTE, but couldn't match the green mode.

Originally posted by photoptimist

Is there a chance that Green mode adjusts a lot more settings (clarity, saturation, contrast, etc.) based on some automagical analysis of the scene? (And if it does then perhaps the details are deep in the EXIF someplace.)

I like the look of photos taken with the green mode, but I'd still want to have control over shutter speed and aperture...

aaacb · 04-23-2018, 04:15 PM

Did you set the jpeg profile to bright? You may have it set of natural or something else for P/Av/etc

rawr · 04-23-2018, 05:01 PM - **4 Likes**

Originally posted by photoptimist

Is there a chance that Green mode adjusts a lot more settings (clarity, saturation, contrast, etc.) based on some automagical analysis of the scene? (And if it does then perhaps the details are deep in the EXIF someplace.)

Green mode is indeed where the 'deep learning' magic of the K-1 is supposed to come into play:

This RICOH-original technology is available during viewfinder shooting when the exposure mode is set to Scene Analyze Auto and the Custom Image mode is set to Auto Select.

You Tube

Features5 | PENTAX K-1 | RICOH IMAGING

biz-engineer · 04-23-2018, 09:22 PM

Originally posted by aaacb

Did you set the jpeg profile to bright? You may have it set of natural or something else for P/Av/etc

I tried each of the in camera jpeg settings (auto,natural,landscape,portrait,bright etc) and AWB, but I couldn't get the same image as with the green mode.

pid · 04-24-2018, 01:35 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by biz-engineer

I tried each of the in camera jpeg settings (auto,natural,landscape,portrait,bright etc) and AWB, but I couldn't get the same image as with the green mode.

did you try to modify them? Take the one matches best and adjust the color, brightness, contrast etc.
Or did you already tested this?

Take a look at the picture in the camera and press info. There you can see all settings the K1 used in the Auto mode of each picture.

biz-engineer · 04-24-2018, 10:28 AM

Originally posted by pid

Take the one matches best and adjust the color, brightness, contrast etc. Or did you already tested this?

good idea... i haven't tried to modify default jpeg settings.

wanderer2 · 04-26-2018, 06:32 AM

Originally posted by biz-engineer

Last week I did an experiment: shoot the same subject outdoor with the green mode and also using Av or TAv mode with setting Auto WB and Auto selection of style, and exposure. I couldn't get the panel of colors produced by the green mode. I was expecting that auto style selection would produce the same rendering. No way. Did I forget something in the auto settings when not in green mode?

Did you do this only with jpegs of with RAW files also? Would the same results happen with RAW files? Seems doubtful.

biz-engineer · 04-26-2018, 01:02 PM

Originally posted by wanderer2

Did you do this only with jpegs of with RAW files also? Would the same results happen with RAW files? Seems doubtful.

RAW or JPEG, it's the same when the in-camera profile is applied to the RAW, the JPEG looks the same.

04-23-2018, 02:27 PM - 1 Like	#1
biz-engineer Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 12,231	K1 green mode (full auto) and semi-auto Last week I did an experiment: shoot the same subject outdoor with the green mode and also using Av or TAv mode with setting Auto WB and Auto selection of style, and exposure. I couldn't get the panel of colors produced by the green mode. I was expecting that auto style selection would produce the same rendering. No way. Did I forget something in the auto settings when not in green mode?

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04-23-2018, 02:49 PM - 1 Like	#2
pid Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2010 Photos: Gallery Posts: 567	did you try the CTE(white balance)? You will get great green and warm red tones

04-23-2018, 02:53 PM	#3
photoptimist Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2016 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,122	Is there a chance that Green mode adjusts a lot more settings (clarity, saturation, contrast, etc.) based on some automagical analysis of the scene? (And if it does then perhaps the details are deep in the EXIF someplace.)

04-23-2018, 03:09 PM	#4
biz-engineer Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 12,231 Original Poster	Originally posted by pid did you try the CTE(white balance)? You will get great green and warm red tones I've tried TAv and CTE, but couldn't match the green mode. Originally posted by photoptimist Is there a chance that Green mode adjusts a lot more settings (clarity, saturation, contrast, etc.) based on some automagical analysis of the scene? (And if it does then perhaps the details are deep in the EXIF someplace.) I like the look of photos taken with the green mode, but I'd still want to have control over shutter speed and aperture...

04-23-2018, 04:15 PM	#5
aaacb Pentaxian Join Date: May 2016 Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,724	Did you set the jpeg profile to bright? You may have it set of natural or something else for P/Av/etc

04-23-2018, 09:22 PM	#7
biz-engineer Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 12,231 Original Poster	Originally posted by aaacb Did you set the jpeg profile to bright? You may have it set of natural or something else for P/Av/etc I tried each of the in camera jpeg settings (auto,natural,landscape,portrait,bright etc) and AWB, but I couldn't get the same image as with the green mode.

04-24-2018, 01:35 AM - 1 Like	#8
pid Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2010 Photos: Gallery Posts: 567	Originally posted by biz-engineer I tried each of the in camera jpeg settings (auto,natural,landscape,portrait,bright etc) and AWB, but I couldn't get the same image as with the green mode. did you try to modify them? Take the one matches best and adjust the color, brightness, contrast etc. Or did you already tested this? Take a look at the picture in the camera and press info. There you can see all settings the K1 used in the Auto mode of each picture.

04-24-2018, 10:28 AM	#9
biz-engineer Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 12,231 Original Poster	Originally posted by pid Take the one matches best and adjust the color, brightness, contrast etc. Or did you already tested this? good idea... i haven't tried to modify default jpeg settings.

04-26-2018, 06:32 AM	#10
wanderer2 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 301	Originally posted by biz-engineer Last week I did an experiment: shoot the same subject outdoor with the green mode and also using Av or TAv mode with setting Auto WB and Auto selection of style, and exposure. I couldn't get the panel of colors produced by the green mode. I was expecting that auto style selection would produce the same rendering. No way. Did I forget something in the auto settings when not in green mode? Did you do this only with jpegs of with RAW files also? Would the same results happen with RAW files? Seems doubtful.

04-26-2018, 01:02 PM	#11
biz-engineer Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 12,231 Original Poster	Originally posted by wanderer2 Did you do this only with jpegs of with RAW files also? Would the same results happen with RAW files? Seems doubtful. RAW or JPEG, it's the same when the in-camera profile is applied to the RAW, the JPEG looks the same.