Well sold some Fuji gear now is the K1 the replacement ?

**baro-nite** · 12-18-2019, 07:17 AM - **1 Like**

The composition adjust feature on the K-1 only moves the sensor by a couple of millimeters or so, only enough for very minor perspective correction. I own the Rokinon (Samyang) lens, and I like it quite a lot, but it does have significant barrel distortion, so for architectural work you would want software capable of correcting that distortion when the lens is shifted. I gather that there are a couple of options, Capture One being one of them.

The Canon and Nikon t/s lenses are reputed to be excellent; they also cost around US$2,000 each. As much as I share the OP's preference for getting it as close as possible in-camera, there's a lot to be said for stitched panoramas for architecture.

Last edited by baro-nite; 12-18-2019 at 09:55 AM.

sculptor666 · 12-18-2019, 07:58 AM

you can adapt nikon lenses to k-mount, but i've only done it on an older nikon shift lens (pc nikkor 28.. f3.5)... which is all manual, so no electrictal contacts to worry about. the problem with it is it's not a great lens to begin with. i feel like there's a t/s adapter for 645 lenses to k-mount, but i'm too lazy to look for it. if t/s is most important to you, start with the right lens and build your system around that.

ChristianRock · 12-18-2019, 08:23 AM

Adorama and B&H are both reporting the Rokinon 24mm tilt-shift as no longer available (there is no Samyang branded version apparently).

You can still find them on other sites like sellers on Amazon and WalMart, but they want a lot of money for the lens...

Zivelot · 12-18-2019, 08:37 AM - **1 Like**

There is this lens as well:
Arsat 35mm F/2.8 PCS H Lens Reviews - Russian and Zenitar Lenses - Pentax Lens Review Database

I had it about a year ago, came as part of a lot I bought. Pretty neat little lens, I even tried it on my K-1. The only thing that made me sell it was its limited use for me. Other than that I would have probably kept it if needed.

Mine came with a K-mount which I think was a conversion from M42, but with shift lens it does not matter too much as they are pre-set aperture lenses as far as I know.

So K-1 plus this can be an option, although this lens is only 35mm focal length.

**BarryE** · 12-18-2019, 08:57 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by KSB

Thanks for all the input...Ok I guess I have to send back the K-1 I just ordered .... J/K .... my interest was more to try and avoid correcting architecture in post as much as possible, I may not need the tilt-shift as much as I think, Had just watched a video using one and that sparked my interest... I am far more interested in the other features the K-1 offers... Thanks again for all the info..... and yes I am ordering my K-1 tonight...
Thanks
Kevin

Tilt and shift is not usually required for real estate, especially interiors. Just need to make sure you keep everything bang on level and importantly select your camera height, eg start about 30 cm above work tops in kitchens as a starter to keep the angles looking fine. Tilt and shift (I've not used) would probably be too slow. The K-1 is fine and gives lots of pixels to crop from.

Qman · 12-18-2019, 09:55 AM

Originally posted by othar

I am guessing you wanted to use "isn't" in this context

Haha! Good catch, thanks!

**RobA_Oz** · 12-18-2019, 01:25 PM

Originally posted by BarryE

Tilt and shift is not usually required for real estate, especially interiors. Just need to make sure you keep everything bang on level and importantly select your camera height, eg start about 30 cm above work tops in kitchens as a starter to keep the angles looking fine. Tilt and shift (I've not used) would probably be too slow. The K-1 is fine and gives lots of pixels to crop from.

Having done a small amount of such work (for friends and family only) my experience is that a rectilinear 15mm lens on a K-1 is as wide as you’d generally need to go, because interiors tend to look distinctly odd, in my opinion, shot with wider lenses. My Irix 15 does the job nicely, but there are other options, including the Pentax 15-30. Lighting is probably more important than width.

Wasp · 12-18-2019, 02:57 PM - **1 Like**

Another way to get into the tilt/shift game is with a medium format lens and a K mount adapter. The biggest downside is the cost of the adapter and lens. The other deal breaker is that the widest medium format lenses are not particularly wide on full frame.

For example, the widest Hasselblad V lens is the 40mm Distagon. If you happen to own one of those beasts, this adapter will turn it into a TS lens on a K1.

https://www.adorama.com/katshspxk.html?

texandrews · 12-18-2019, 03:50 PM - **1 Like**

Canon is the FF T/S king. Sadly, the bodies are not up to snuff, although the 5DmkIV is probably adequate for most real estate work, unless you're shooting for Architectural Digest. The 50Ds would be fine, if slow.

That said, I shoot in museums professionally. I'm using a 645Z and K1mkII (upgraded version). I have the 28 shift for the K1, and an Arsat 45 shift for the 645. I have yet to need them. The adjustments in LR that I can do pass muster with the most discerning eyes.

fsge · 12-20-2019, 04:57 AM

Sadly tilt shift in Kmount are not numerous. I remember Schneider-Kreuznacht 50 and 90mm that were available, not sure if it is still the case. Price was prohibitive though

**BarryE** · 12-20-2019, 06:24 AM

Originally posted by RobA_Oz

Having done a small amount of such work (for friends and family only) my experience is that a rectilinear 15mm lens on a K-1 is as wide as you’d generally need to go, because interiors tend to look distinctly odd, in my opinion, shot with wider lenses. My Irix 15 does the job nicely, but there are other options, including the Pentax 15-30. Lighting is probably more important than width.

I agree with the Irix 15. Works well for interiors and can crop on the K-1 to give effective longer focal lengths. Backed up with the 24-70, it makes a good, portable, manageable lens pair.

Most tilt/shift corrections, provided you've got it close, are achievable in post, for interiors.

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12-18-2019, 07:17 AM - 1 Like	#16
baro-nite Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: North Carolina, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,294	The composition adjust feature on the K-1 only moves the sensor by a couple of millimeters or so, only enough for very minor perspective correction. I own the Rokinon (Samyang) lens, and I like it quite a lot, but it does have significant barrel distortion, so for architectural work you would want software capable of correcting that distortion when the lens is shifted. I gather that there are a couple of options, Capture One being one of them. The Canon and Nikon t/s lenses are reputed to be excellent; they also cost around US$2,000 each. As much as I share the OP's preference for getting it as close as possible in-camera, there's a lot to be said for stitched panoramas for architecture. Last edited by baro-nite; 12-18-2019 at 09:55 AM.

12-18-2019, 07:58 AM	#17
sculptor666 Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: PA Photos: Gallery Posts: 675	you can adapt nikon lenses to k-mount, but i've only done it on an older nikon shift lens (pc nikkor 28.. f3.5)... which is all manual, so no electrictal contacts to worry about. the problem with it is it's not a great lens to begin with. i feel like there's a t/s adapter for 645 lenses to k-mount, but i'm too lazy to look for it. if t/s is most important to you, start with the right lens and build your system around that.

12-18-2019, 08:23 AM	#18
ChristianRock Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: People's Republic of America Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,910	Adorama and B&H are both reporting the Rokinon 24mm tilt-shift as no longer available (there is no Samyang branded version apparently). You can still find them on other sites like sellers on Amazon and WalMart, but they want a lot of money for the lens...

12-18-2019, 08:37 AM - 1 Like	#19
Zivelot Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Great Plain, Hungary Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 204	There is this lens as well: Arsat 35mm F/2.8 PCS H Lens Reviews - Russian and Zenitar Lenses - Pentax Lens Review Database I had it about a year ago, came as part of a lot I bought. Pretty neat little lens, I even tried it on my K-1. The only thing that made me sell it was its limited use for me. Other than that I would have probably kept it if needed. Mine came with a K-mount which I think was a conversion from M42, but with shift lens it does not matter too much as they are pre-set aperture lenses as far as I know. So K-1 plus this can be an option, although this lens is only 35mm focal length.

12-18-2019, 08:57 AM - 1 Like	#20
BarryE Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 1,653	Originally posted by KSB Thanks for all the input...Ok I guess I have to send back the K-1 I just ordered .... J/K .... my interest was more to try and avoid correcting architecture in post as much as possible, I may not need the tilt-shift as much as I think, Had just watched a video using one and that sparked my interest... I am far more interested in the other features the K-1 offers... Thanks again for all the info..... and yes I am ordering my K-1 tonight... Thanks Kevin Tilt and shift is not usually required for real estate, especially interiors. Just need to make sure you keep everything bang on level and importantly select your camera height, eg start about 30 cm above work tops in kitchens as a starter to keep the angles looking fine. Tilt and shift (I've not used) would probably be too slow. The K-1 is fine and gives lots of pixels to crop from.

12-18-2019, 09:55 AM	#21
Qman Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 232	Originally posted by othar I am guessing you wanted to use "isn't" in this context Haha! Good catch, thanks!

12-18-2019, 01:25 PM	#22
RobA_Oz Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tasmania, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,197	Originally posted by BarryE Tilt and shift is not usually required for real estate, especially interiors. Just need to make sure you keep everything bang on level and importantly select your camera height, eg start about 30 cm above work tops in kitchens as a starter to keep the angles looking fine. Tilt and shift (I've not used) would probably be too slow. The K-1 is fine and gives lots of pixels to crop from. Having done a small amount of such work (for friends and family only) my experience is that a rectilinear 15mm lens on a K-1 is as wide as you’d generally need to go, because interiors tend to look distinctly odd, in my opinion, shot with wider lenses. My Irix 15 does the job nicely, but there are other options, including the Pentax 15-30. Lighting is probably more important than width.

12-18-2019, 02:57 PM - 1 Like	#23
Wasp Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Pretoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,661	Another way to get into the tilt/shift game is with a medium format lens and a K mount adapter. The biggest downside is the cost of the adapter and lens. The other deal breaker is that the widest medium format lenses are not particularly wide on full frame. For example, the widest Hasselblad V lens is the 40mm Distagon. If you happen to own one of those beasts, this adapter will turn it into a TS lens on a K1. https://www.adorama.com/katshspxk.html?

12-18-2019, 03:50 PM - 1 Like	#24
texandrews Moderator Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Baltimore Photos: Albums Posts: 3,392	Canon is the FF T/S king. Sadly, the bodies are not up to snuff, although the 5DmkIV is probably adequate for most real estate work, unless you're shooting for Architectural Digest. The 50Ds would be fine, if slow. That said, I shoot in museums professionally. I'm using a 645Z and K1mkII (upgraded version). I have the 28 shift for the K1, and an Arsat 45 shift for the 645. I have yet to need them. The adjustments in LR that I can do pass muster with the most discerning eyes.

12-20-2019, 04:57 AM	#25
fsge Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Genf Posts: 1,138	Sadly tilt shift in Kmount are not numerous. I remember Schneider-Kreuznacht 50 and 90mm that were available, not sure if it is still the case. Price was prohibitive though

12-20-2019, 06:24 AM	#26
BarryE Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 1,653	Originally posted by RobA_Oz Having done a small amount of such work (for friends and family only) my experience is that a rectilinear 15mm lens on a K-1 is as wide as you’d generally need to go, because interiors tend to look distinctly odd, in my opinion, shot with wider lenses. My Irix 15 does the job nicely, but there are other options, including the Pentax 15-30. Lighting is probably more important than width. I agree with the Irix 15. Works well for interiors and can crop on the K-1 to give effective longer focal lengths. Backed up with the 24-70, it makes a good, portable, manageable lens pair. Most tilt/shift corrections, provided you've got it close, are achievable in post, for interiors.