[Lord Lucan]

In a way the K-3iii does have a tilt/remote screen - using Image Sync in Shooting mode. Maybe not perfect, but workable.

Not this again.

Judging by the apologetic excuses Pentax made for the K3iii fixed screen after seeing the flak they got for it, no doubt realising too late how many sales they must gave lost because of it, I seriously doubt if they would make that mistake with the K1iii. They would be crazy if they did,

The K1iii does not need to be built as light, thin and cheap as possible (the usual reasons given for the k3iii fixed screen) - APS-C bodies are for that. It needs to take on board as many "features" and advances as reasonably possible, whether people really need them or not, because when people are choosing to buy most think they need them. Notwithstanding the high price of the K3iii, I expect the K1iii price will be a quantum leap higher - $3000? - restoring prices to their natural order. As part of that, the ~$50 manufacturing cost of a flippy screen (K1 tech) hardly matters.

[BigMackCam]

Not this again.

Judging by the apologetic excuses Pentax made for the K3iii fixed screen after seeing the flak they got for it, no doubt realising too late how many sales they must gave lost because of it, I seriously doubt if they would make that mistake with the K1iii. They would be crazy if they did,

Sure, they probably lost sales as a result of the non-articulating screen... but they'd probably have lost sales if the camera cost another $200 - $300 on top of the already high price (which caused plenty of consternation in these forums). We'll never know whether their decision to exclude that feature cost them more sales than including it at a higher retail price would. It's arguable either way...

Since the K-1 and K-1II had articulating screens, I'm quite sure any replacement will too. With all that new tech inside, though, folks better not expect it to retail for the same price as a K-1II... because, c'mon guys

[mikesbike]

Different people have different needs. In my own case, most of my needs have essentially been met quite some time ago when I got my K-5 IIs. I still like it and it still gets some use. I am not one to be contemplating what is to come in the next model unless I am feeling some frustration in what I am not able to do with my current equipment, since I am so easy on my cameras, rarely using burst shooting, and also rarely needing to shoot video. But I could not resist the unique compact modular design of the KP, together with its marvelous higher ISO capability- which indeed successfully addressed a frustration for me, its excellent build quality, new controls on its compact body, and its host of useful features. IQ is superb, even right out of the camera. It became and remans my most used model. Then my remaining needs were rounded out with finally the acquisition of the K-1 II two years ago. Now I also have the advantages FF offers and at a very high level of imaging, and I can once again put some of my fine FF glass back into use in their intended FOV. All this at a very reasonable cost. I love it. Fantastic IQ and even better high ISO capability than the KP.

Of course, there's always room for improvement. But the factor of diminishing returns becomes ever more present, so these improvements are meaningful to an ever smaller percentage of users. The K-3 III has enough lacking so its successor could still fill in enough meaningful slots to increase its appeal. Tilt-out screen and larger buffer stand out among these. APS-C is more efficient and practical for speedy action shooting than are FF designs. But it makes no sense to design a camera body with a speedier AF system and fps for burst shooting at an attending higher price, yet not include a larger buffer to work with this concept. So the next subsequent replacement seems likely to address these issues. The K-1 II does not present such deficits and contradictions. Its main lag is in the arena of video. But I am one who is not concerned over such as this, as I would rather shoot any substantial video with a dedicated video camera and lens anyway. I would not look forward to using this weighty DSLR for extensive hand-held video shooting. The K-1 II is otherwise so capable in so many ways, I feel it has a quite stable position in my stable of equipment.

[Kingman]

LOL it is true. I was speaking metaphorically. Actually writing metaphorically, with speaking being a metaphor for writing. ; )

I have two current day dreams for my next big spend:

A k3iii to pair with my DA* 300mm and 1.4TC for birding

A DFA 15-450 to pair with my K1 for birding.

Would love either or both of those pieces of kit.

I just rented the D FA150-450 for a shoot. The resolution was surprisingly very nice, However, it was virtually impossible to hand hold for any real work. Birding with the K-1 and the D FA 150-450 without a tripod or at least a monopod would be an untenable task. It's interesting in that I was at a photo exhibition at was easily able to get tack sharp images with a Sony A7rIV with the FE200-600 handheld indoors.

[Paul the Sunman]

I just rented the D FA150-450 for a shoot. The resolution was surprisingly very nice, However, it was virtually impossible to hand hold for any real work.

Whaaaat!!! I use it hand-held for birds and wildlife all the time. I can't remember the last time I had it on a tripod. Especially when using a fast shutter for flitty birds, it is easily hand holdable. Indeed, for more stationary objects, I use it down to as low as 1/200 s with IBIS. Very sharp. Maybe you need to work on your technique.

[gatorguy]

I just rented the D FA150-450 for a shoot. The resolution was surprisingly very nice, However, it was virtually impossible to hand hold for any real work. Birding with the K-1 and the D FA 150-450 without a tripod or at least a monopod would be an untenable task. It's interesting in that I was at a photo exhibition at was easily able to get tack sharp images with a Sony A7rIV with the FE200-600 handheld indoors.

Technique is of high significance with those longer/havier lenses. On a weekend I might run into a dozen birders and wildlife photographers with handheld long lenses of 500mm or more, and some of them hand-shooting 7 pound+ white Canon tele's,

When I see the same guys weekend by weekend carrying the same heavy gear and no tripod the presumption would be their handheld technique for using that long glass is getting acceptable results for them. My own handling of the 150-450 is OK, and I can get tack-sharp results handheld, but I wouldn't want to use it for hours at a time on a trail without a monopod and gimbel. I could, but my forearm would hate me the next day.

[bspn]

LOL it is true. I was speaking metaphorically. Actually writing metaphorically, with speaking being a metaphor for writing. ; )

I have two current day dreams for my next big spend:

A k3iii to pair with my DA* 300mm and 1.4TC for birding

A DFA 15-450 to pair with my K1 for birding.

Would love either or both of those pieces of kit.

Don't forget, Billking, the K3III and the 150-450 also make a fantastic combo.

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Whaaaat!!! I use it hand-held for birds and wildlife all the time. I can't remember the last time I had it on a tripod. Especially when using a fast shutter for flitty birds, it is easily hand holdable. Indeed, for more stationary objects, I use it down to as low as 1/200 s with IBIS. Very sharp. Maybe you need to work on your technique.

Agree with you. Amazing how fast I can pull the combo, with either the K1 or K3s off tripod for a directly overhead shot, handheld. PS, I'm a spry 70 year old.

[Kingman]

Technique is of high significance with those longer/havier lenses. On a weekend I might run into a dozen birders and wildlife photographers with handheld long lenses of 500mm or more, and some of them hand-shooting 7 pound+ white Canon tele's,

When I see the same guys weekend by weekend carrying the same heavy gear and no tripod the presumption would be their handheld technique for using that long glass is getting acceptable results for them. My own handling of the 150-450 is OK, and I can get tack-sharp results handheld, but I wouldn't want to use it for hours at a time on a trail without a monopod and gimbel. I could, but my forearm would hate me the next day.

I'll give you credit. I couldn't hand hold a recently rented D FA150-450 on my K-1. After a few minutes, I gave up and used the tripod for the remainder of the week.My arthritic joints are not what they use to be!

[Kingman]

Don't forget, Billking, the K3III and the 150-450 also make a fantastic combo.

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Agree with you. Amazing how fast I can pull the combo, with either the K1 or K3s off tripod for a directly overhead shot, handheld. PS, I'm a spry 70 year old.

My arthritic hands are connected to a 72 year old body that is just as arthritic! I worked out some PT exercises for hand strengthening. We'll see if it helps very soon.

[gaweidert]

My arthritic hands are connected to a 72 year old body that is just as arthritic! I worked out some PT exercises for hand strengthening. We'll see if it helps very soon.

Exercise is pretty much a necessity at our age. I am 71. Arthritis is not yet much of a problem for me other than lower back. Since retirement in 2016 I fired up the boys old Weider Powermax V home gym and it has helped a lot in the camera wielding department. My program right now is a mix of cardio and upper body strength. In high school I was more nerd than anything else. My friends that were into stuff like football etc seem to all be needing joint replacements or surgeries etc. I can actually out exercise them now. Weird.


For the record I start my workout with 5 minutes on a Xiser stepper. Then to the home gym for 120 reps of various sorts at 50 pounds (22.7 kg) each. Then another 5 minutes on the stepper Then a repeat fo the 120 reps. Then a final 5 minutes on the stepper. All in all about 40 minutes or so. My goal is not body building but just keeping in shape. I workout a bit more often in the winter as I am normally more active in the summer.

[Kingman]

Exercise is pretty much a necessity at our age. I am 71. Arthritis is not yet much of a problem for me other than lower back. Since retirement in 2016 I fired up the boys old Weider Powermax V home gym and it has helped a lot in the camera wielding department. My program right now is a mix of cardio and upper body strength. In high school I was more nerd than anything else. My friends that were into stuff like football etc seem to all be needing joint replacements or surgeries etc. I can actually out exercise them now. Weird.


For the record I start my workout with 5 minutes on a Xiser stepper. Then to the home gym for 120 reps of various sorts at 50 pounds (22.7 kg) each. Then another 5 minutes on the stepper Then a repeat fo the 120 reps. Then a final 5 minutes on the stepper. All in all about 40 minutes or so. My goal is not body building but just keeping in shape. I workout a bit more often in the winter as I am normally more active in the summer.

My lower back is also shot....literally every 6 months with epidural steroids injections to minimize the lower back pain. The treatment allows me to have a reasonable pain free life and to carry weight in my photo backpack for travel. Recent hand physical therapy has strengthen my arthritic hands, I will see how much it has helped in an upcoming shoot with birds using the K-1 with DF A*70-200/2.8. Exercise does indeed help for those of us gracefully aging.

[Paul the Sunman]

Exercise does indeed help for those of us gracefully aging.

I am disgracefully aging. Still carrying lots of camera gear though.

[texandrews]

I am disgracefully aging. Still carrying lots of camera gear though.

Me, too. At 66, I carry more gear than ever. But I am smarter about where I carry it. I work as an independent contractor for museums and private clients doing some photography but mostly art handling, contemporary art. In that capacity I wind up doing quite a bit of construction and fabrication related tasks and all that entails. I'm not who I was 10 years ago for sure, but I'm still doing it and when working wind up walking about 4.5 miles a day just with the commuting, not including all the "steps" I do on the floor of the galleries. I'm actually still one of the strongest guys on the crew---the younger ones all have various issues. So my "disgraceful aging" is more on the curmudgeon side of things, and as an imbiber of more wine, Campari, tequila/mezcal, or scotch.

Is thread about K1 or hip replacement?

[texandrews]

Is thread about K1 or hip replacement?

Both, I guess. Yes, drifting a little OT....