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house · 03-03-2022, 06:27 AM

Does the firmware include dfa21 profiles?

steephill · 03-03-2022, 06:35 AM - **1 Like**

This is a new development I think "* When this update is done, you will not be able to restore back to version 1.55 or earlier." Same message for the K-1 II. I also am surprised the DFA21 hasn't featured yet.

house · 03-03-2022, 07:56 AM

Originally posted by steephill

This is a new development I think "* When this update is done, you will not be able to restore back to version 1.55 or earlier." Same message for the K-1 II. I also am surprised the DFA21 hasn't featured yet.

Do you know or are you going by the feature list of the firmware?

It's really strange if they fail to provide profiles. Its already very late.

D1N0 · 03-03-2022, 10:54 AM - **3 Likes**

Since I always shoot RAW and my software does nothing with image profiles. I never use them. My K-1 is still on 1.52 so I missed a couple of updates already. Since I don't have any new AF glass I'm only missing out on Improved stability for general performance.

Zivelot · 03-03-2022, 11:46 AM

Lightroom development: homemade burger. Satobi: eating out in a burger bar or chain. I don't mind either, so I'll use Satobi once it is there for our benefit. I like how images look when applying it.

Tjompen1968 · 03-03-2022, 01:09 PM - **1 Like**

Suddenly it is no longer possible to go back to older firmware versions... Why is that?

**Rondec** · 03-03-2022, 01:18 PM

Originally posted by Tjompen1968

Suddenly it is no longer possible to go back to older firmware versions... Why is that?

That's always been the case. They just happen to mention in the notes this time. But if you have older Pentax cameras you can't go backward on the firmware version. I think the K-10 had a different firmware version that allowed for back tracking, but other than that, you can't go backwards.

Tjompen1968 · 03-03-2022, 01:27 PM

Originally posted by Rondec

That's always been the case. They just happen to mention in the notes this time. But if you have older Pentax cameras you can't go backward on the firmware version. I think the K-10 had a different firmware version that allowed for back tracking, but other than that, you can't go backwards.

That is not correct. I have gone back to earlier FW on K-1 several times before this update.

**UncleVanya** · 03-03-2022, 02:14 PM

Originally posted by JPT

Not likely. And not coming to the K-70 either. Apparently the reason is that the KP's development environment is completely different. It's addressed in this article from last year, but you'll need to use a translator.

https://pentaxofficial.com/shirebashiruhodo/12665/

And yet the k-1 and k-1ii which ALSO have a different environment we’re selected to be supported in this. This is a choice and porting it to the k-1 series suggests that it might be possible to have ported it to the KP which came after the k-1 and before the k-1ii.

Gutta Perka · 03-03-2022, 03:11 PM

Good. shall try. Former newest firmware did not work with Image Transmitter II.
When home I'll try it.

Correction:Latest Image Transmitter II update did not work. In pretext it said it needed rev 1.6 firmware thought it did not exist then. Now that firmware is out.

Class A · 03-03-2022, 07:18 PM

Originally posted by steephill

This is a new development I think "* When this update is done, you will not be able to restore back to version 1.55 or earlier."

This is really regrettable.

I thought it was fantastic that the K-1 firmwares, up until and including V1.55, supported "downgrading" as well as upgrading.
It is now unlikely that I'll give V1.60 a go, as it would lock me into a version that may not work for me for one reason or another.

pid · 03-04-2022, 08:32 AM

Image Transmitter II (latest Version 2.6.1) does work with the new firmware V1.6 on my K-1 and did also with the firmware before.

Gutta Perka · 03-04-2022, 08:50 AM

Originally posted by pid

Image Transmitter II (latest Version 2.6.1) does work with the new firmware V1.6 on my K-1 and did also with the firmware before.

I have experienced the same!

gatorguy · 03-04-2022, 09:32 AM

Originally posted by Class A

This is really regrettable.

I thought it was fantastic that the K-1 firmwares, up until and including V1.55, supported "downgrading" as well as upgrading.
It is now unlikely that I'll give V1.60 a go, as it would lock me into a version that may not work for me for one reason or another.

No need to fix what ain't broke.

I don't think there's a lot new in this update, and if you read later of some addition or fix that sounds useful you can always update later. I got by just fine not updating some cameras until months later. This time I did a day 1.

**Digitalis** · 03-06-2022, 02:12 AM

Originally posted by house

Does the firmware include dfa21 profiles?

Curiously, no.

03-03-2022, 03:11 PM	#25
Gutta Perka Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 124	Good. shall try. Former newest firmware did not work with Image Transmitter II. When home I'll try it. Correction:Latest Image Transmitter II update did not work. In pretext it said it needed rev 1.6 firmware thought it did not exist then. Now that firmware is out. Last edited by Gutta Perka; 03-03-2022 at 03:18 PM.

03-04-2022, 08:50 AM	#28
Gutta Perka Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 124	Originally posted by pid Image Transmitter II (latest Version 2.6.1) does work with the new firmware V1.6 on my K-1 and did also with the firmware before. I have experienced the same! Last edited by Gutta Perka; 03-04-2022 at 01:30 PM.

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house Pentaxian Join Date: May 2015 Photos: Albums Posts: 2,853	Does the firmware include dfa21 profiles?

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steephill Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2018 Photos: Gallery Posts: 380	This is a new development I think "* When this update is done, you will not be able to restore back to version 1.55 or earlier." Same message for the K-1 II. I also am surprised the DFA21 hasn't featured yet.

03-03-2022, 07:56 AM	#18
house Pentaxian Join Date: May 2015 Photos: Albums Posts: 2,853	Originally posted by steephill This is a new development I think "* When this update is done, you will not be able to restore back to version 1.55 or earlier." Same message for the K-1 II. I also am surprised the DFA21 hasn't featured yet. Do you know or are you going by the feature list of the firmware? It's really strange if they fail to provide profiles. Its already very late.

03-03-2022, 10:54 AM - 3 Likes	#19
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,643	Since I always shoot RAW and my software does nothing with image profiles. I never use them. My K-1 is still on 1.52 so I missed a couple of updates already. Since I don't have any new AF glass I'm only missing out on Improved stability for general performance.

03-03-2022, 11:46 AM	#20
Zivelot Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Great Plain, Hungary Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 192	Lightroom development: homemade burger. Satobi: eating out in a burger bar or chain. I don't mind either, so I'll use Satobi once it is there for our benefit. I like how images look when applying it.

03-03-2022, 01:09 PM - 1 Like	#21
Tjompen1968 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 1,648	Suddenly it is no longer possible to go back to older firmware versions... Why is that?

03-03-2022, 01:18 PM	#22
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 25,026	Originally posted by Tjompen1968 Suddenly it is no longer possible to go back to older firmware versions... Why is that? That's always been the case. They just happen to mention in the notes this time. But if you have older Pentax cameras you can't go backward on the firmware version. I think the K-10 had a different firmware version that allowed for back tracking, but other than that, you can't go backwards.

03-03-2022, 01:27 PM	#23
Tjompen1968 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 1,648	Originally posted by Rondec That's always been the case. They just happen to mention in the notes this time. But if you have older Pentax cameras you can't go backward on the firmware version. I think the K-10 had a different firmware version that allowed for back tracking, but other than that, you can't go backwards. That is not correct. I have gone back to earlier FW on K-1 several times before this update.

03-03-2022, 02:14 PM	#24
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 22,777	Originally posted by JPT Not likely. And not coming to the K-70 either. Apparently the reason is that the KP's development environment is completely different. It's addressed in this article from last year, but you'll need to use a translator. https://pentaxofficial.com/shirebashiruhodo/12665/ And yet the k-1 and k-1ii which ALSO have a different environment we’re selected to be supported in this. This is a choice and porting it to the k-1 series suggests that it might be possible to have ported it to the KP which came after the k-1 and before the k-1ii.

03-03-2022, 07:18 PM	#26
Class A Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 11,172	Originally posted by steephill This is a new development I think "* When this update is done, you will not be able to restore back to version 1.55 or earlier." This is really regrettable. I thought it was fantastic that the K-1 firmwares, up until and including V1.55, supported "downgrading" as well as upgrading. It is now unlikely that I'll give V1.60 a go, as it would lock me into a version that may not work for me for one reason or another.

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03-04-2022, 08:32 AM	#27
pid Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2010 Photos: Gallery Posts: 510	Image Transmitter II (latest Version 2.6.1) does work with the new firmware V1.6 on my K-1 and did also with the firmware before.

03-04-2022, 09:32 AM	#29
gatorguy Moderator Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Central Florida Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,166	Originally posted by Class A This is really regrettable. I thought it was fantastic that the K-1 firmwares, up until and including V1.55, supported "downgrading" as well as upgrading. It is now unlikely that I'll give V1.60 a go, as it would lock me into a version that may not work for me for one reason or another. No need to fix what ain't broke. I don't think there's a lot new in this update, and if you read later of some addition or fix that sounds useful you can always update later. I got by just fine not updating some cameras until months later. This time I did a day 1.

03-06-2022, 02:12 AM	#30
Digitalis Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Adelaide,South Australia. Posts: 10,944	Originally posted by house Does the firmware include dfa21 profiles? Curiously, no.

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