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07-22-2018, 03:38 AM   #18331
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The caravan was realated to your photo where the" trailer" was on the left of frame on the rim.
So just different words for the same thing
I haven't tried to google "patriot campers but maybe the au on the end was missing so it sent you all over the place.

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I don't want to beat a dead camper-trailer, but I did get the correct site for Patriot Campers. My laptop only pulled up their big circular logo and images of their products, no text. On a simple level, assuming I did have the correct site, they call themselves "Patriot Campers" not "Patriot Caravans."

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A hard challenge, but interesting and maybe too much for this kind of thread! Hope we won’t be killed.


What are yours? And what about a B&W treatment?
I prefer a sliver of sky to establish the horizon and sort of set the scene within a larger context. The first image was as taken, with extra sky that I usually include reflexively. The same image with more than half the sky cropped away is what I posted and what I like best. When I crop off all the sky, which is the last image, regrettably out of sequence (my error) it just does not look right to me. It looks "beheaded." The tops of the rock formations are too close to the top of the frame. For the images with the pickup & camper trailer at the upper left, eliminating the sky to me crowds that camper trailer against the top of the frame too much. I included it in the original framing purposely to give scale. The thing on the horizon I have the advantage of being able to enlarge. It's an isolated pinnacle structure similar to the "mittens" at Monument Valley. It's insignificant to the overall image, but when the sky-horizon is eliminated, it gets "beheaded" and consequently may attract more attention than intended or deserved.

If I'm fiddling on the other computer later I'll work on a B&W. I did convert several images from Utah to B&W, especially some in which the color was rather bland and looked too fake if I pushed up the saturation, and some of the scenics do look good/ better converted to B&W (IMHO) I kept most in color because it is "red rock country." I think the images of the Gooseneck Bends are overall too dark to work well in B&W. Even a tiny bit of color will enhance visual pickup of details down inside those canyons. I think a B&W will look too featureless and "flat."

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One of the buildings at Hovenweep NM. I don't think anyone knows for certain why some walls of these buildings are rounded, while others are flat and meet adjacent walls at a near right-angle. On the other hand, the descendants of theses people did construct circular kivas that had ceremonial purposes, although known kivas are very different in structure from these buildings except for being curved. True kivas are a full circle and usually somewhat separate or even isolated from living areas.
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QuoteOriginally posted by WPRESTO Quote
It looks "beheaded.
I do understand this point. A higher angle would be helpful. But I guess you don't have wings.

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I think a B&W will look too featureless and "flat."
There are a lot of possibilities to tweak K-1 raw files. Especially if you include working with the B&W tool and usage of curves on seperate RGB channels you often can get more than you expected - at least in C1P. I guess PS even gives you more choices. Maybe Siver Effex Pro would offer an easier way to get good results? I never worked with it but read a lot of good things about it. All the best! acoufap
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I do understand this point. A higher angle would be helpful. But I guess you don't have wings.
As I said 1) this place looks best from a low flying aircraft or balloon (or a drone - not my thing); 2) I tried jumping. And as to wings, some think I'll have a pair all too soon, but I'm skeptical.


I will use something beyond LR or PS to process a B&W.
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A few from K1 +bellows +sigma 105 + ringflash + homemade diffuser, all handheld out in the garden.....
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A few from K1 +bellows +sigma 105 + ringflash + homemade diffuser, all handheld out in the garden ( also posted in insects forum, but felt it was worth posting here too )


Red spider mite, photobombed by a globbie (its dinner)



sub species of a solitary wasp squeezing out of the burrow



garden fly



Red admiral



Hoverfly in flight



No idea what this is




Soldier beetle



Up close with a bee on our oregano plant



Another fly

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I do understand this point. A higher angle would be helpful. But I guess you don't have wings.



There are a lot of possibilities to tweak K-1 raw files. Especially if you include working with the B&W tool and usage of curves on seperate RGB channels you often can get more than you expected - at least in C1P. I guess PS even gives you more choices. Maybe Siver Effex Pro would offer an easier way to get good results? I never worked with it but read a lot of good things about it. All the best! acoufap

FYI: When experimenting with a conversion to B&W using LR, as a matter of routine I always move each one of the color slides in turn all the way up and all the way down so I can see what if any effect each has, and where on the image any effect is produced.
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