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07-08-2016, 06:32 AM   #61
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QuoteOriginally posted by Ginnipe Quote
The K1 isn't ideal for wildlife, but it is definitely doable. While I was in Greece I shot some swallows in flight using the crop mode and my 100mm 2.8 macro lens.
The camera's fine for birds in flight, Ginnipe, that lens isn't. 😀





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QuoteOriginally posted by PentxOrni Quote
Hi, would like to see some of your shots made with the K-1...are you on flickr? Thanks in advance. Frank
My flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/avifuzzi/albums
sort of but in way too many FB groups now..so most I post there.. since June are all here with K1 but no exif of course on FB can tell you if you say which pics.. .https://www.facebook.com/shantimusic
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Nice spoonbills with your latest shooting. Thks!
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A tele with the mage quality of the new 70-200 is missing. I am leaving towards selling my DA*300 for the 150-450 and the longer I think about it the more I am convinced about keeping APS-C for quite some time. DA*300 with TC1,4 did not convince me with K3 pixel pitch! A 2.8/300 plus TC 2x would be nice söution for better briding in APS-C and FF land.
We can expect a couple FF lenses from Sigma for instance. It appears to me that Pentax is waiting for Sigma to release the new 1.4/85 and maybe a 2.8/300 replacement (could also be a zoom) before Pentax is willing to show their own capabilities.

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I've had and used my DFA 150-450 for a while now..... used with K3 and now K-1. Prior to the DFA I was using a nice Pentax 300. I shoot mostly while bush walking etc so can rarely ever get close enough to small birds. Anyway, good luck working out the K3 and K-1 thing.... I still am not sure from time to time.... if just talking about the Pentax DFA 150-450 on either..... I don't feel as though one benefits from the extra pixel density of the K3 in a linear way.... with this lens. I almost believe the transmittance of the 150-450 needs the K-1 (ie...it eats light)
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QuoteOriginally posted by noelpolar Quote
I've had and used my DFA 150-450 for a while now..... used with K3 and now K-1. Prior to the DFA I was using a nice Pentax 300. I shoot mostly while bush walking etc so can rarely ever get close enough to small birds. Anyway, good luck working out the K3 and K-1 thing.... I still am not sure from time to time.... if just talking about the Pentax DFA 150-450 on either..... I don't feel as though one benefits from the extra pixel density of the K3 in a linear way.... with this lens. I almost believe the transmittance of the 150-450 needs the K-1 (ie...it eats light)
Interesting, thanks for posting.
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QuoteOriginally posted by clackers Quote
The camera's fine for birds in flight, Ginnipe, that lens isn't. 😀
All I said is that it isn't ideal. If I had the 300mm I'd definitely have a higher hit rate, but with the autofocus points all clustered to the center and its decent though not stellar tracking ability there are some limits. I also shot with the 24-70 2.8 and had a very similar result all under the same conditions.

It's definitely capable of doing BIF, though with all the cropping I had to do anyway I would have rather had an APSC camera for it for that "free" 1.5x crop.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Ginnipe Quote
All I said is that it isn't ideal. If I had the 300mm I'd definitely have a higher hit rate, but with the autofocus points all clustered to the center and its decent though not stellar tracking ability there are some limits. I also shot with the 24-70 2.8 and had a very similar result all under the same conditions.

But the 100 is a macro lens, Ginnipe - too slow. They have a long throw.


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I also shot with the 24-70 2.8 and had a very similar result all under the same conditions.

I don't have one, but would be surprised if anyone recommended it for birding.

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I often use the F 1.7 AF adapter on my longer lenses , and that provides me with centre point only, but it still seems to provide keepers. But for birds, even a 60-250 is inadequate. Don't even talk about birding without going to the 300 plus club and seeing what people are doing. 100mm doesn't even get you in the door.There are images there taken with lenses up to 1200mm. Now that's a birding lens.

But many seem to do well with a DA*300 ƒ4, possibly with a TC.

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/122-lens-clubs/55946-300mm-plus-lens-club...nses-1496.html
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/122-lens-clubs/55946-300mm-plus-lens-club...nses-1493.html

This is where we talk about getting birds images.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Fenwoodian Quote
I will not be using my K1 when I get it for birding. It's going to be a great camera for my landscapes - especially with it's new pixel shift mode. But no camera can be great at everything.

I am a serious bird photographer, and have been for over 10 years. For fast action birds in flight I only use My Nikon DX cameras and Nikkor telephotos. My Nikon system is super fast and has highly accurate auto focus (over 90% in focus!!!). I have many birder friends who shoot Canon.

Sure, one can capture the occasional odd bird or two with Pentax equipment, but I know no serious birder who shoots with Pentax.
OH that sucks that why u was going to buy it, ;(

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QuoteOriginally posted by noelpolar Quote
I've had and used my DFA 150-450 for a while now..... used with K3 and now K-1. Prior to the DFA I was using a nice Pentax 300. I shoot mostly while bush walking etc so can rarely ever get close enough to small birds. Anyway, good luck working out the K3 and K-1 thing.... I still am not sure from time to time.... if just talking about the Pentax DFA 150-450 on either..... I don't feel as though one benefits from the extra pixel density of the K3 in a linear way.... with this lens. I almost believe the transmittance of the 150-450 needs the K-1 (ie...it eats light)
I was thinking about getting this camera with the 150-450 I have a k5 now , I want to start with bird photos
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QuoteOriginally posted by Big Dawg Quote
Hello Fenwoodian. Big Dawg here. Now you know at least one. Been shooting birds for years and years with a Pentax. Am I serious? Well yeah I am. Am I a professional? No I am not. But I will use my Sigma 50-500 and the K1 the same as I have used the K7, KX and the K10D with the 50-500 to get those bird shots.

Just wish folks were not such Brand Snobs.
nice the second one looks way clearer
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Just to give some feedback for those "ever-so-convinced" CANIKON "serious" Birders... and, yes... Currently I'm trying to achieve similar (better) results with my new K-1... and might drop back to K3ii later on for BIF only - we'll see - at this moment it's promising though.... ;-)) Not too "serious" but always looking for BIF and having FUN in nature... the more serious part is my engagement in NABU (Birdlife International) in Germany a.o. several projects protecting last lapwing and hoopoe reproduction areas, documenting wintering nordic geese, doing public excursions, etc. in the area southwest of Darmstadt, in Hesse, close to river Rhine.

Per year I gather my (personnally felt) best shots of birds:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/avifuzzi/albums/72157644274568138
https://www.flickr.com/photos/avifuzzi/albums/72157652546845809

Talk to you then! Frank
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QuoteOriginally posted by Fenwoodian Quote
Sure, one can capture the occasional odd bird or two with Pentax equipment, but I know no serious birder who shoots with Pentax.
Probably not "serious" enough for your taste but do take a look at some of those here:

Wild Birds | Flickr

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QuoteOriginally posted by jpzk Quote
Probably not "serious" enough for your taste but do take a look at some of those here:

Wild Birds | Flickr

Cheers!
Had a look at the Flickr album. Demonstrates how skill is so much more important than gear. Fantastic work.
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Had a look at the Flickr album. Demonstrates how skill is so much more important than gear. Fantastic work.
Thanks !
Glad you enjoyed the album.
I think the K5/K3 (and the "old" K20D/K10D and K7) all are good enough for birding and that all of them take time to get used to.
I wished I had the funds for a 500mm prime lens though!
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