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turff · 03-11-2016, 02:25 PM

Has Sigma released anything on adding Pentax mounts to their newer lenses? They were left out primarily because the market for Pentax would have been minimal since there were no cameras available to utilize the FF aspect . Now with this announcement I'm curious if anyone has heard if they plan to add Pentax to any of their existing lenses or maybe to new ones going forward.

I've been a huge fan of what sigma has been doing lately. For the type of work I do the current line up Pentax offers just won't cut it and there is little point upgrading if I stick with my APS.C lenses.

I'm just curious if anyone has heard of Sigma, or other third party manufacturers, addressing this.

**boriscleto** · 03-11-2016, 02:29 PM

No. The last lens Sigma released in K-mount was the 18-300. You will not see any other lenses in K-mount from Sigma. I have seen 3 or 4 different reasons, but they don't matter. It's just Sigma being a Japanese company and refusing to flat out say what they really mean.

You will not see any Tamron lenses in K-mount either, unless they are rebadged as Pentax. Tokina is irrelevant, Cosina and Zeiss have no interest.

Samyang and Venus seem to be the only third parties interested in K-mount.

**jatrax** · 03-11-2016, 02:37 PM

They were asked at CP+ and replied "not at this time". Which could mean anything, but likely means not unless the Pentax market share climbs significantly.

enoeske · 03-11-2016, 02:49 PM

Originally posted by jatrax

They were asked at CP+ and replied "not at this time". Which could mean anything, but likely means not unless the Pentax market share climbs significantly.

Isn't Ricoh/Pentax market share still very close to 3rd? I don't see it climbing significantly quickly but steadily and slowly improving. However, if they are making lenses for other manufacturers with the same or worse market share, then that probably isn't the real issue.

**clackers** · 03-11-2016, 03:00 PM

They're really only getting their money back on selling to Canon and Nikon customers.

Sony, Fuji, Olympus, Pentax and co don't seem to pay the bills.

**jatrax** · 03-11-2016, 03:05 PM

Originally posted by enoeske

Isn't Ricoh/Pentax market share still very close to 3rd? I don't see it climbing significantly quickly but steadily and slowly improving. However, if they are making lenses for other manufacturers with the same or worse market share, then that probably isn't the real issue.

No idea. Just quoting what was in the CP+ interview.

Whatever Pentax market share is, Sigma is not adding new K-mount and Tamron only made them under contract to rebadge them to Pentax. If the K-1 is a huge success then Sigma might re-evaluate but even if they decided to do so tomorrow it still might be 1 or even 2 years before anything actually appears at retail.

robjmitchell · 03-11-2016, 03:12 PM

Originally posted by turff

Has Sigma released anything on adding Pentax mounts to their newer lenses? They were left out primarily because the market for Pentax would have been minimal since there were no cameras available to utilize the FF aspect . Now with this announcement I'm curious if anyone has heard if they plan to add Pentax to any of their existing lenses or maybe to new ones going forward.

I've been a huge fan of what sigma has been doing lately. For the type of work I do the current line up Pentax offers just won't cut it and there is little point upgrading if I stick with my APS.C lenses.

I'm just curious if anyone has heard of Sigma, or other third party manufacturers, addressing this.

What kind of work do you do by the way?
Obviously Pentax has a few holes in the FF line up at the moment, the only fast 24 options are the 2.8 zooms or the samyang 24/1.4.
The sigma 35/1.4 art and 85/1.4 are currently made in K mount.

**boriscleto** · 03-11-2016, 03:44 PM

Originally posted by clackers

They're really only getting their money back on selling to Canon and Nikon customers.

Sony, Fuji, Olympus, Pentax and co don't seem to pay the bills.

You can still buy the 150-500 from Sigma in SA mount. They must have sold so many...

**boriscleto** · 03-11-2016, 03:47 PM

Originally posted by jatrax

They were asked at CP+ and replied "not at this time".

That is Japanese for "When Hell freezes over".

**clackers** · 03-11-2016, 04:33 PM

Originally posted by boriscleto

You can still buy the 150-500 from Sigma in SA mount. They must have sold so many...

Yeah, I can't see anyone making lenses for the dying A-mount.

Tamron may be forced to make them for E-mount because Sony is a shareholder.

**boriscleto** · 03-11-2016, 04:42 PM

Originally posted by clackers

Yeah, I can't see anyone making lenses for the dying A-mount.

Tamron may be forced to make them for E-mount because Sony is a shareholder.

Not Sony A mount. Sigma SA mount.

The 150-500 was discontinued last year, maybe earlier, but they still have inventory in their own mount...

**clackers** · 03-11-2016, 05:12 PM

Originally posted by boriscleto

Sigma SA mount.

Ah, yes ... the equivalent of vanity publishing! ☺

krazykat · 03-11-2016, 05:50 PM

Originally posted by boriscleto

That is Japanese for "When Hell freezes over".

What is Japanese for "Not at this time"?

**clackers** · 03-11-2016, 06:07 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by krazykat

What is Japanese for "Not at this time"?

"Yes, we are considering it." ☺

JimmyDranox · 03-12-2016, 02:26 AM

The best solution would be that Pentax start selling it's new lenses at Sigma prices, not at canikon OS prices.

03-11-2016, 02:25 PM	#1
turff Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Missouri Photos: Albums Posts: 135	Newer Sigma lenses Has Sigma released anything on adding Pentax mounts to their newer lenses? They were left out primarily because the market for Pentax would have been minimal since there were no cameras available to utilize the FF aspect . Now with this announcement I'm curious if anyone has heard if they plan to add Pentax to any of their existing lenses or maybe to new ones going forward. I've been a huge fan of what sigma has been doing lately. For the type of work I do the current line up Pentax offers just won't cut it and there is little point upgrading if I stick with my APS.C lenses. I'm just curious if anyone has heard of Sigma, or other third party manufacturers, addressing this.

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03-11-2016, 02:29 PM	#2
boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,477	No. The last lens Sigma released in K-mount was the 18-300. You will not see any other lenses in K-mount from Sigma. I have seen 3 or 4 different reasons, but they don't matter. It's just Sigma being a Japanese company and refusing to flat out say what they really mean. You will not see any Tamron lenses in K-mount either, unless they are rebadged as Pentax. Tokina is irrelevant, Cosina and Zeiss have no interest. Samyang and Venus seem to be the only third parties interested in K-mount.

03-11-2016, 02:37 PM	#3
jatrax Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cascades Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,991	They were asked at CP+ and replied "not at this time". Which could mean anything, but likely means not unless the Pentax market share climbs significantly.

03-11-2016, 02:49 PM	#4
enoeske Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Surprise, Az Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,136	Originally posted by jatrax They were asked at CP+ and replied "not at this time". Which could mean anything, but likely means not unless the Pentax market share climbs significantly. Isn't Ricoh/Pentax market share still very close to 3rd? I don't see it climbing significantly quickly but steadily and slowly improving. However, if they are making lenses for other manufacturers with the same or worse market share, then that probably isn't the real issue.

03-11-2016, 03:00 PM	#5
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	They're really only getting their money back on selling to Canon and Nikon customers. Sony, Fuji, Olympus, Pentax and co don't seem to pay the bills.

03-11-2016, 03:05 PM	#6
jatrax Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cascades Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,991	Originally posted by enoeske Isn't Ricoh/Pentax market share still very close to 3rd? I don't see it climbing significantly quickly but steadily and slowly improving. However, if they are making lenses for other manufacturers with the same or worse market share, then that probably isn't the real issue. No idea. Just quoting what was in the CP+ interview. Whatever Pentax market share is, Sigma is not adding new K-mount and Tamron only made them under contract to rebadge them to Pentax. If the K-1 is a huge success then Sigma might re-evaluate but even if they decided to do so tomorrow it still might be 1 or even 2 years before anything actually appears at retail.

03-11-2016, 03:12 PM	#7
robjmitchell Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Melbourne Aus Posts: 1,776	Originally posted by turff Has Sigma released anything on adding Pentax mounts to their newer lenses? They were left out primarily because the market for Pentax would have been minimal since there were no cameras available to utilize the FF aspect . Now with this announcement I'm curious if anyone has heard if they plan to add Pentax to any of their existing lenses or maybe to new ones going forward. I've been a huge fan of what sigma has been doing lately. For the type of work I do the current line up Pentax offers just won't cut it and there is little point upgrading if I stick with my APS.C lenses. I'm just curious if anyone has heard of Sigma, or other third party manufacturers, addressing this. What kind of work do you do by the way? Obviously Pentax has a few holes in the FF line up at the moment, the only fast 24 options are the 2.8 zooms or the samyang 24/1.4. The sigma 35/1.4 art and 85/1.4 are currently made in K mount.

03-11-2016, 03:44 PM	#8
boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,477	Originally posted by clackers They're really only getting their money back on selling to Canon and Nikon customers. Sony, Fuji, Olympus, Pentax and co don't seem to pay the bills. You can still buy the 150-500 from Sigma in SA mount. They must have sold so many...

03-11-2016, 03:47 PM	#9
boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,477	Originally posted by jatrax They were asked at CP+ and replied "not at this time". That is Japanese for "When Hell freezes over".

03-11-2016, 04:33 PM	#10
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	Originally posted by boriscleto You can still buy the 150-500 from Sigma in SA mount. They must have sold so many... Yeah, I can't see anyone making lenses for the dying A-mount. Tamron may be forced to make them for E-mount because Sony is a shareholder.

03-11-2016, 04:42 PM	#11
boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,477	Originally posted by clackers Yeah, I can't see anyone making lenses for the dying A-mount. Tamron may be forced to make them for E-mount because Sony is a shareholder. Not Sony A mount. Sigma SA mount. The 150-500 was discontinued last year, maybe earlier, but they still have inventory in their own mount...

03-11-2016, 05:12 PM	#12
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	Originally posted by boriscleto Sigma SA mount. Ah, yes ... the equivalent of vanity publishing! ☺

03-11-2016, 05:50 PM	#13
krazykat Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 546	Originally posted by boriscleto That is Japanese for "When Hell freezes over". What is Japanese for "Not at this time"?

03-11-2016, 06:07 PM - 1 Like	#14
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	Originally posted by krazykat What is Japanese for "Not at this time"? "Yes, we are considering it." ☺

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JimmyDranox Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Ploiesti, Romania Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,632	The best solution would be that Pentax start selling it's new lenses at Sigma prices, not at canikon OS prices.

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