Some Old Guy K1 Questions?

HoustonBob · 03-13-2016, 06:33 AM

Rupert, there are several forum members who do have K1s, they seem to be very happy with them - even with the ore-release firmware in them. Send one of them a private message and ask for their opinion.

audiobomber · 03-13-2016, 06:37 AM

A K-3 or K-3 II beats a K-1 for telephoto use because of the ability to crop harder. IQ from a K-1 in crop mode is no better or worse than a K-5 IIs. The K-3 II makes the most sense for Rupert, IMO. Second best would be a K-3.

Rupert · 03-13-2016, 07:03 AM

Originally posted by noelpolar

Sorry for camera mishap. K1 for sure I reckon.

I have a K5II you can borrow for a while if you'd like..... no problems or catches..... just pm me I can send it minus battery etc.

I so appreciate your generosity,

but I will wait a few days and make a decision, then order ....something?

Originally posted by carolina_sky

Mrs Rupert sounds like a keeper! I think her advice is good, K-1 and you won't be second guessing down the road.

She's a jewel, I beat her up sometimes in jest, but in reality she has been 50 years of solid gold.

Last night when she gave me the little lamb....she said, you know that if you want something ....you've got it. And she has a record of proving that to be true.

Originally posted by Parallax

Jim, I have a like new K20D you can use until you get the K-1. I can stick it in the mail tomorrow if you want it.

Thank you so much Jim,

you are a true friend too! I will be ordering something? soon. I'll give it a few days to think over my options and then make the call. Meanwhile...I have those Toy Cameras. Of course, they are too short to shoot birds and squirrels.....which may indeed be a good thing!

Originally posted by normhead

But essentially for what you do, it's not going to give you much on many images. A K-3 would give you more.

I respect your expertise very much Norm....you are a straight shooter. Your advice will weigh heavily on my decision.

While I am down....maybe you can do some extra shooting/posting of my favorite subjects.......you do know what that might be...right?

Again, I want to thank all my friends here for the concern, advice, and sympathy. I know you guys really feel the pain, it could be anyone and though it is "only" a camera you guys know that it is much more, it is apart of our lives. It is joy, it is happiness, it is comfort, it is "family". I also appreciate that Mrs Rupert understands this and is so supportive....last night when I mentioned the price differences of the options, she reminded me that she fully financed my little downtown studio I had for a year (such fun!) and my Jeep...and my Audi TT....and so much more. With a Mrs Rupert at my side and friends like I have here, it is hard not to have a big smile this morning in spite of my loss.

Best Regards!

Rupert

---------- Post added 03-13-16 at 09:05 AM ----------

Originally posted by HoustonBob

Rupert, there are several forum members who do have K1s, they seem to be very happy with them - even with the ore-release firmware in them. Send one of them a private message and ask for their opinion.

I will check that out! Thanks!

Originally posted by audiobomber

A K-3 or K-3 II beats a K-1 for telephoto use because of the ability to crop harder. IQ from a K-1 in crop mode is no better or worse than a K-5 IIs. The K-3 II makes the most sense for Rupert, IMO. Second best would be a K-3.

That sounds reasonable and logical......Sometimes I am reasonable and logical.....sometimes not...we'll see?

Best Regards! & Thanks!

**gaweidert** · 03-13-2016, 07:36 AM

Rupert, I feel you pain. Last week I threw out my Tamron 300mm f2.8 lens. All my own fault too.

FWIW, I own a K5, K5-IIs and a K3. Since I got the K3 the other two cameras mostly sit. The K3 autofocus is definitely better. I have the 150-450 lens and it works great on the K3.

Below are three photos. The first one is the full image and the next two are cropped from it . They were shot at 410mm using my K3 and the bird was really out there. No real post processing other than cropping the images. Not great shots, but they do show how much you can crop the images from the K3 and still get usable results.

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Austro-Diesel · 03-13-2016, 07:43 AM

I don't see any real benefit buying the more expensive K-3 II. Save the money, take a "standard" K-3.

Maybe the better SR of the K-1 is an advantage, but a lens OS is at long focal lengths more convenient.

Rupert · 03-13-2016, 09:27 AM

Originally posted by gaweidert

Rupert, I feel you pain. Last week I threw out my Tamron 300mm f2.8 lens. All my own fault too.

Wooo! That hurts! ...That is some nice shooting, at least you still have a fine long lens.....I'd rollover dead with no long lens!

Originally posted by Austro-Diesel

I don't see any real benefit buying the more expensive K-3 II. Save the money, take a "standard" K-3.

I agree, a K3II would not benefit me much over a K3.

Read my new post here...I have made a decision I think I can live with.

Thanks guys, your comments are all well appreciated!

**paulh** · 03-13-2016, 09:45 AM

It would be hard to resist the lure of a new K1....and kudos to Mrs Rupert for giving you the green light! I haven't seen your new post regarding your decision, but I think a K3 makes the most sense for your kind of shooting. Best of luck whatever your decision! ...and if you wanna go old-school in the meantime, I can send my trusty K10D down the road to you

. Looks like some fun times ahead!

Rupert · 03-13-2016, 01:23 PM

Originally posted by paulh

Best of luck whatever your decision! ...and if you wanna go old-school in the meantime, I can send my trusty K10D down the road to you . Looks like some fun times ahead!

Thanks so much for the offer Paul

....I think I'm gonna shoot mostly Toy Cameras for a few weeks....you know I do love them!

Knowing the K1 is in the near future will keep me satisfied, but I will miss shooting the doves and squirrels......Perhaps the K1 will entice me to broaden my shooting subjects a little? If I had my little studio it would be perfect! Squirrels out...Girls in!

Puppies and pretty girls....Yep, the K1 could do that nicely!

Best Regards!

reeftool · 03-13-2016, 01:28 PM - **1 Like**

I would seriously consider the K1 if my camera was broken. Wow! That's really bad luck. I know you really loved that K5lls. There are some definite advantages to an aps-c body for telephoto shooting like you do. You can always pick up a used K5 on the cheap although 36MP will give you plenty of cropping room.

Parallax · 03-13-2016, 03:23 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by reeftool

I would seriously consider the K1 if my camera was broken.

Originally posted by reeftool

Wow! That's really bad luck.

Those two statements put a whole new light on this situation.
Was this really an accident? "Oh dear! My beloved K-5IIs is broken. What to do, what to do?! I guess I'll just have to buy a K-1, darn it."
(Then get my K-5IIs fixed as a backup.)

Accident my tail feathers.

**UncleVanya** · 03-13-2016, 04:29 PM

Can't add the adaptist mount and fix the k5ii?

reeftool · 03-13-2016, 07:13 PM

Originally posted by Parallax

Those two statements put a whole new light on this situation.
Was this really an accident? "Oh dear! My beloved K-5IIs is broken. What to do, what to do?! I guess I'll just have to buy a K-1, darn it."
(Then get my K-5IIs fixed as a backup.)

Accident my tail feathers.

It is a little suspicious and the FF Bigma is miraculously unharmed

.........Still, you have to cough up $1700+ for a K1 and do you really think any of us are going to be satisfied using 20 year old lenses on the K1? Nope. This is worse than LBA!

Rupert · 03-13-2016, 07:40 PM

Originally posted by Parallax

Those two statements put a whole new light on this situation.
Was this really an accident? "Oh dear! My beloved K-5IIs is broken. What to do, what to do?! I guess I'll just have to buy a K-1, darn it."
(Then get my K-5IIs fixed as a backup.)

Accident my tail feathers.

Originally posted by reeftool

It is a little suspicious and the FF Bigma is miraculously unharmed.........Still, you have to cough up $1700+ for a K1 and do you really think any of us are going to be satisfied using 20 year old lenses on the K1? Nope. This is worse than LBA!

Hey guys....I admit to some dirty tricks from time to time with Mrs Rupert,

but trust me, there is no way I would ever do any harm to my K5IIs for any reason. I might do some tricky stuff to get a K1, and had several plans, but harming myK5IIs was never one of them!

Originally posted by UncleVanya

Can't add the adaptist mount and fix the k5ii?

I think what it needs is some internal surgery.

We will find out once I get the K1.

Regards!

...and I am ashamed a couple of you thought so lowly of me! It's unimaginable you would suspect me of such a thing!

sherrvonne · 03-13-2016, 07:45 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Rupert

Hey guys....I admit to some dirty tricks from time to time with Mrs Rupert,

but trust me, there is no way I would ever do any harm to my K5IIs for any reason. I might do some tricky stuff to get a K1, and had several plans, but harming myK5IIs was never one of them!

I think what it needs is some internal surgery.

We will find out once I get the K1.

Regards!

...and I am ashamed a couple of you thought so lowly of me! It's unimaginable you would suspect me of such a thing!

I think Otis ran up there and pushed the camera off on purpose, probably so quick it was not possible to see with the human eye.....

Parallax · 03-14-2016, 05:05 AM

Originally posted by Rupert

and I am ashamed a couple of you thought so lowly of me! It's unimaginable you would suspect me of such a thing!

But, I meant it as a compliment!

03-13-2016, 01:23 PM	#53
Rupert Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Texas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 25,123 Original Poster	Originally posted by paulh Best of luck whatever your decision! ...and if you wanna go old-school in the meantime, I can send my trusty K10D down the road to you . Looks like some fun times ahead! Thanks so much for the offer Paul....I think I'm gonna shoot mostly Toy Cameras for a few weeks....you know I do love them! Knowing the K1 is in the near future will keep me satisfied, but I will miss shooting the doves and squirrels......Perhaps the K1 will entice me to broaden my shooting subjects a little? If I had my little studio it would be perfect! Squirrels out...Girls in! Puppies and pretty girls....Yep, the K1 could do that nicely! Best Regards!

03-13-2016, 03:23 PM - 2 Likes	#55
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,333	Originally posted by reeftool I would seriously consider the K1 if my camera was broken. Originally posted by reeftool Wow! That's really bad luck. Those two statements put a whole new light on this situation. Was this really an accident? "Oh dear! My beloved K-5IIs is broken. What to do, what to do?! I guess I'll just have to buy a K-1, darn it." (Then get my K-5IIs fixed as a backup.) Accident my tail feathers. Last edited by Parallax; 03-13-2016 at 03:39 PM.

03-13-2016, 07:13 PM	#57
reeftool Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Upstate New York Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,555	Originally posted by Parallax Those two statements put a whole new light on this situation. Was this really an accident? "Oh dear! My beloved K-5IIs is broken. What to do, what to do?! I guess I'll just have to buy a K-1, darn it." (Then get my K-5IIs fixed as a backup.) Accident my tail feathers. It is a little suspicious and the FF Bigma is miraculously unharmed.........Still, you have to cough up $1700+ for a K1 and do you really think any of us are going to be satisfied using 20 year old lenses on the K1? Nope. This is worse than LBA!

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03-13-2016, 06:33 AM	#46
HoustonBob Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Houston TX Photos: Gallery Posts: 265	Rupert, there are several forum members who do have K1s, they seem to be very happy with them - even with the ore-release firmware in them. Send one of them a private message and ask for their opinion.

03-13-2016, 06:37 AM	#47
audiobomber Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Sudbury, Ontario Photos: Albums Posts: 6,806	A K-3 or K-3 II beats a K-1 for telephoto use because of the ability to crop harder. IQ from a K-1 in crop mode is no better or worse than a K-5 IIs. The K-3 II makes the most sense for Rupert, IMO. Second best would be a K-3.

03-13-2016, 07:03 AM	#48
Rupert Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Texas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 25,123 Original Poster	Originally posted by noelpolar Sorry for camera mishap. K1 for sure I reckon. I have a K5II you can borrow for a while if you'd like..... no problems or catches..... just pm me I can send it minus battery etc. I so appreciate your generosity, but I will wait a few days and make a decision, then order ....something? Originally posted by carolina_sky Mrs Rupert sounds like a keeper! I think her advice is good, K-1 and you won't be second guessing down the road. She's a jewel, I beat her up sometimes in jest, but in reality she has been 50 years of solid gold. Last night when she gave me the little lamb....she said, you know that if you want something ....you've got it. And she has a record of proving that to be true. Originally posted by Parallax Jim, I have a like new K20D you can use until you get the K-1. I can stick it in the mail tomorrow if you want it. Thank you so much Jim, you are a true friend too! I will be ordering something? soon. I'll give it a few days to think over my options and then make the call. Meanwhile...I have those Toy Cameras. Of course, they are too short to shoot birds and squirrels.....which may indeed be a good thing! Originally posted by normhead But essentially for what you do, it's not going to give you much on many images. A K-3 would give you more. I respect your expertise very much Norm....you are a straight shooter. Your advice will weigh heavily on my decision. While I am down....maybe you can do some extra shooting/posting of my favorite subjects.......you do know what that might be...right? Again, I want to thank all my friends here for the concern, advice, and sympathy. I know you guys really feel the pain, it could be anyone and though it is "only" a camera you guys know that it is much more, it is apart of our lives. It is joy, it is happiness, it is comfort, it is "family". I also appreciate that Mrs Rupert understands this and is so supportive....last night when I mentioned the price differences of the options, she reminded me that she fully financed my little downtown studio I had for a year (such fun!) and my Jeep...and my Audi TT....and so much more. With a Mrs Rupert at my side and friends like I have here, it is hard not to have a big smile this morning in spite of my loss. Best Regards! Rupert ---------- Post added 03-13-16 at 09:05 AM ---------- Originally posted by HoustonBob Rupert, there are several forum members who do have K1s, they seem to be very happy with them - even with the ore-release firmware in them. Send one of them a private message and ask for their opinion. I will check that out! Thanks! Originally posted by audiobomber A K-3 or K-3 II beats a K-1 for telephoto use because of the ability to crop harder. IQ from a K-1 in crop mode is no better or worse than a K-5 IIs. The K-3 II makes the most sense for Rupert, IMO. Second best would be a K-3. That sounds reasonable and logical......Sometimes I am reasonable and logical.....sometimes not...we'll see? Best Regards! & Thanks!

03-13-2016, 07:43 AM	#50
Austro-Diesel Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 78	I don't see any real benefit buying the more expensive K-3 II. Save the money, take a "standard" K-3. Maybe the better SR of the K-1 is an advantage, but a lens OS is at long focal lengths more convenient.

03-13-2016, 09:27 AM	#51
Rupert Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Texas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 25,123 Original Poster	Originally posted by gaweidert Rupert, I feel you pain. Last week I threw out my Tamron 300mm f2.8 lens. All my own fault too. Wooo! That hurts! ...That is some nice shooting, at least you still have a fine long lens.....I'd rollover dead with no long lens! Originally posted by Austro-Diesel I don't see any real benefit buying the more expensive K-3 II. Save the money, take a "standard" K-3. I agree, a K3II would not benefit me much over a K3. Read my new post here...I have made a decision I think I can live with. Thanks guys, your comments are all well appreciated!

03-13-2016, 09:45 AM	#52
paulh Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: DFW Texas/Ventura County, CA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 33,306	It would be hard to resist the lure of a new K1....and kudos to Mrs Rupert for giving you the green light! I haven't seen your new post regarding your decision, but I think a K3 makes the most sense for your kind of shooting. Best of luck whatever your decision! ...and if you wanna go old-school in the meantime, I can send my trusty K10D down the road to you . Looks like some fun times ahead!

03-13-2016, 01:28 PM - 1 Like	#54
reeftool Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Upstate New York Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,555	I would seriously consider the K1 if my camera was broken. Wow! That's really bad luck. I know you really loved that K5lls. There are some definite advantages to an aps-c body for telephoto shooting like you do. You can always pick up a used K5 on the cheap although 36MP will give you plenty of cropping room.

03-13-2016, 04:29 PM	#56
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,452	Can't add the adaptist mount and fix the k5ii?

03-13-2016, 07:40 PM	#58
Rupert Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Texas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 25,123 Original Poster	Originally posted by Parallax Those two statements put a whole new light on this situation. Was this really an accident? "Oh dear! My beloved K-5IIs is broken. What to do, what to do?! I guess I'll just have to buy a K-1, darn it." (Then get my K-5IIs fixed as a backup.) Accident my tail feathers. Originally posted by reeftool It is a little suspicious and the FF Bigma is miraculously unharmed.........Still, you have to cough up $1700+ for a K1 and do you really think any of us are going to be satisfied using 20 year old lenses on the K1? Nope. This is worse than LBA! Hey guys....I admit to some dirty tricks from time to time with Mrs Rupert, but trust me, there is no way I would ever do any harm to my K5IIs for any reason. I might do some tricky stuff to get a K1, and had several plans, but harming myK5IIs was never one of them! Originally posted by UncleVanya Can't add the adaptist mount and fix the k5ii? I think what it needs is some internal surgery. We will find out once I get the K1. Regards! ...and I am ashamed a couple of you thought so lowly of me! It's unimaginable you would suspect me of such a thing!

03-13-2016, 07:45 PM - 1 Like	#59
sherrvonne Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Texas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,975	Originally posted by Rupert Hey guys....I admit to some dirty tricks from time to time with Mrs Rupert, but trust me, there is no way I would ever do any harm to my K5IIs for any reason. I might do some tricky stuff to get a K1, and had several plans, but harming myK5IIs was never one of them! I think what it needs is some internal surgery. We will find out once I get the K1. Regards! ...and I am ashamed a couple of you thought so lowly of me! It's unimaginable you would suspect me of such a thing! I think Otis ran up there and pushed the camera off on purpose, probably so quick it was not possible to see with the human eye.....

03-14-2016, 05:05 AM	#60
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,333	Originally posted by Rupert and I am ashamed a couple of you thought so lowly of me! It's unimaginable you would suspect me of such a thing! But, I meant it as a compliment!