What do you need to spend money for with K-1?

**chemtech** · 05-12-2016, 03:35 PM - **1 Like**

What do I need: Faster and larger SD cards.

What do I want----Oh, Boy.

The 43mm limited
A better Computer.
New FF lenses -- Yes, LBA has returned

**BigMackCam** · 05-12-2016, 03:36 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by braver

The therapy to assuage guilt.

Ah, no worries on that one - we provide that free-of-charge here at PentaxForums

**monochrome** · 05-12-2016, 03:36 PM

Originally posted by monochrome

Laptop. But K-1 just makes it official.

Originally posted by BigMackCam

Nice

Choking on the files - I can only do jpeg's.

braver · 05-12-2016, 03:37 PM

My neck asked for a better strap. I've seen Peak Design ones, any other working well for folks?

A+

Adam · 05-12-2016, 03:42 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by micromacro

Ok, new toy is great, but now it will cost more than a camera only.
I need:
- LR6 because LR5 does not support new PEF format;

Originally posted by geomez

Shoot DNG

Yup. DNG is universal and will always be supported by ACR, even if you don't have the latest camera profiles.

**BigMackCam** · 05-12-2016, 03:47 PM

Originally posted by monochrome

Choking on the files - I can only do jpeg's.

He he

Well, my file size monsters are the merely the K-3, K-3II and my 24Mp Hasselblad HV - all three roughly the same, and nothing like as hungry as the K-1. A couple of years ago I bought the HP Envy 17" i7 with 12MB RAM, 1TB HDD and NVidia GeForce GT740M graphics. It was more than I wanted to spend, but I could foresee the need for processing power soon. The performance of the PC is just fine with all of my current photography requirements - Lightroom and my other PP software runs very well indeed - though the 1TB drive turned out to be an under-estimation on my behalf

I really need to upgrade to a 2TB internal, and some sort of external storage platform (I have a fast 1TB backup drive that I use very regularly, but I need external primary storage now!)...

**BigMackCam** · 05-12-2016, 03:49 PM

Originally posted by Adam

Yup. DNG is universal and will always be supported by ACR, even if you don't have the latest camera profiles.

I'm sure I read somewhere a good reason for shooting PEF rather than DNG... however, DNG's what I shoot

carolina_sky · 05-12-2016, 04:06 PM - **1 Like**

RRS tripod. My existing tripod is decent enough but now every little vibration will be more noticeable! OMG I've become one of those pixel peeping

... !

oh, and more FF lenses of course!

and the one thing I can't buy... more time!

**BigMackCam** · 05-12-2016, 04:11 PM

Originally posted by carolina_sky

My existing tripod is decent enough but now every little vibration will be more noticeable!

I'm being dumb, I'm sure, but why would FF show up more problems with vibration than APS-C? Or have I misunderstood (which is entirely possible!!

)...

Adam · 05-12-2016, 04:23 PM

Originally posted by BigMackCam

I'm sure I read somewhere a good reason for shooting PEF rather than DNG... however, DNG's what I shoot

I can't think of one off the top of my head. The two formats contain the same data.

robthebloke · 05-12-2016, 04:25 PM

Depreciation on my old APSC kit (that's currently on eBay), is the biggest cost I'm going to face.

I've been purchasing my full frame lens kit over the past year or two, so the actual cost for me was pretty much just the body. When Pentax release the new DFA ultra wide prime (which probably won't be seen until the end of 2017) will be my next outlay. Oh, I have just purchased a pair of 128gb Sandisk extreme pro's, so I guess that counts!

**BigMackCam** · 05-12-2016, 04:36 PM

Originally posted by Adam

I can't think of one off the top of my head. The two formats contain the same data.

If I recall correctly... and I am hazy on this, so might not be 100% on it... the concern was that DNG files don't necessarily contain everything that the manufacturer's proprietary RAW format does, or that DNG-optimised software won't necessarily read all manufacturer-specific metadata. That said, this may have been a concern based on cameras that don't offer DNG as a native format, or software that is capable of reading all the metadata...

Adam · 05-12-2016, 04:46 PM - **1 Like**

I think you're right, generally-speaking, however Pentax cameras do save everything to their DNG files.

carolina_sky · 05-12-2016, 04:49 PM

Originally posted by BigMackCam

I'm being dumb, I'm sure, but why would FF show up more problems with vibration than APS-C? Or have I misunderstood (which is entirely possible!!

)...

It was really more a statement about my expectations. Now I will expect technical perfection in every picture. Which is stupid. But I know it's gonna happen

There is some truth to my statement though because I expect to shoot more PS shots and even with motion correction, vibration from tripod is still going to cause problems there.

micromacro · 05-12-2016, 04:52 PM

Originally posted by Adam

I can't think of one off the top of my head. The two formats contain the same data.

My LR and comp is extremely slow after I did stupid thing upgrading LR to newest version, and started downloading in DNG.
Oh, and I installed Elements 14. Perhaps I need some good spring cleaning in my comp.

05-12-2016, 03:42 PM - 1 Like	#20
Adam Administrator Site Webmaster Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Arizona Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 51,595	Originally posted by micromacro Ok, new toy is great, but now it will cost more than a camera only. I need: - LR6 because LR5 does not support new PEF format; Originally posted by geomez Shoot DNG Yup. DNG is universal and will always be supported by ACR, even if you don't have the latest camera profiles. Adam PentaxForums.com Webmaster (Site Usage Guide \| Site Help \| My Photography) PentaxForums.com server and development costs are user-supported. You can help cover these costs by donating or purchasing one of our Pentax eBooks. Or, buy your photo gear from our affiliates, Adorama, B&H Photo, KEH, or Topaz Labs, and get FREE Marketplace access - click here to see how! Trusted Pentax retailers:

05-12-2016, 04:23 PM	#25
Adam Administrator Site Webmaster Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Arizona Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 51,595	Originally posted by BigMackCam I'm sure I read somewhere a good reason for shooting PEF rather than DNG... however, DNG's what I shoot I can't think of one off the top of my head. The two formats contain the same data. Adam PentaxForums.com Webmaster (Site Usage Guide \| Site Help \| My Photography) PentaxForums.com server and development costs are user-supported. You can help cover these costs by donating or purchasing one of our Pentax eBooks. Or, buy your photo gear from our affiliates, Adorama, B&H Photo, KEH, or Topaz Labs, and get FREE Marketplace access - click here to see how! Trusted Pentax retailers:

05-12-2016, 04:46 PM - 1 Like	#28
Adam Administrator Site Webmaster Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Arizona Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 51,595	I think you're right, generally-speaking, however Pentax cameras do save everything to their DNG files. Adam PentaxForums.com Webmaster (Site Usage Guide \| Site Help \| My Photography) PentaxForums.com server and development costs are user-supported. You can help cover these costs by donating or purchasing one of our Pentax eBooks. Or, buy your photo gear from our affiliates, Adorama, B&H Photo, KEH, or Topaz Labs, and get FREE Marketplace access - click here to see how! Trusted Pentax retailers:

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chemtech Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Kansas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 509	What do I need: Faster and larger SD cards. What do I want----Oh, Boy. The 43mm limited A better Computer. New FF lenses -- Yes, LBA has returned

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BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,674	Originally posted by braver The therapy to assuage guilt. Ah, no worries on that one - we provide that free-of-charge here at PentaxForums

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monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by monochrome Laptop. But K-1 just makes it official. Originally posted by BigMackCam Nice Choking on the files - I can only do jpeg's.

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braver Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Hanover, NH Posts: 157	My neck asked for a better strap. I've seen Peak Design ones, any other working well for folks? A+

05-12-2016, 03:47 PM	#21
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,674	Originally posted by monochrome Choking on the files - I can only do jpeg's. He he Well, my file size monsters are the merely the K-3, K-3II and my 24Mp Hasselblad HV - all three roughly the same, and nothing like as hungry as the K-1. A couple of years ago I bought the HP Envy 17" i7 with 12MB RAM, 1TB HDD and NVidia GeForce GT740M graphics. It was more than I wanted to spend, but I could foresee the need for processing power soon. The performance of the PC is just fine with all of my current photography requirements - Lightroom and my other PP software runs very well indeed - though the 1TB drive turned out to be an under-estimation on my behalf I really need to upgrade to a 2TB internal, and some sort of external storage platform (I have a fast 1TB backup drive that I use very regularly, but I need external primary storage now!)...

05-12-2016, 03:49 PM	#22
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,674	Originally posted by Adam Yup. DNG is universal and will always be supported by ACR, even if you don't have the latest camera profiles. I'm sure I read somewhere a good reason for shooting PEF rather than DNG... however, DNG's what I shoot

05-12-2016, 04:06 PM - 1 Like	#23
carolina_sky Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2013 Photos: Gallery Posts: 156	RRS tripod. My existing tripod is decent enough but now every little vibration will be more noticeable! OMG I've become one of those pixel peeping ... ! oh, and more FF lenses of course! and the one thing I can't buy... more time!

05-12-2016, 04:11 PM	#24
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,674	Originally posted by carolina_sky My existing tripod is decent enough but now every little vibration will be more noticeable! I'm being dumb, I'm sure, but why would FF show up more problems with vibration than APS-C? Or have I misunderstood (which is entirely possible!! )...

05-12-2016, 04:25 PM	#26
robthebloke Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Sydney Photos: Albums Posts: 844	Depreciation on my old APSC kit (that's currently on eBay), is the biggest cost I'm going to face. I've been purchasing my full frame lens kit over the past year or two, so the actual cost for me was pretty much just the body. When Pentax release the new DFA ultra wide prime (which probably won't be seen until the end of 2017) will be my next outlay. Oh, I have just purchased a pair of 128gb Sandisk extreme pro's, so I guess that counts!

05-12-2016, 04:36 PM	#27
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,674	Originally posted by Adam I can't think of one off the top of my head. The two formats contain the same data. If I recall correctly... and I am hazy on this, so might not be 100% on it... the concern was that DNG files don't necessarily contain everything that the manufacturer's proprietary RAW format does, or that DNG-optimised software won't necessarily read all manufacturer-specific metadata. That said, this may have been a concern based on cameras that don't offer DNG as a native format, or software that is capable of reading all the metadata...

05-12-2016, 04:49 PM	#29
carolina_sky Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2013 Photos: Gallery Posts: 156	Originally posted by BigMackCam I'm being dumb, I'm sure, but why would FF show up more problems with vibration than APS-C? Or have I misunderstood (which is entirely possible!! )... It was really more a statement about my expectations. Now I will expect technical perfection in every picture. Which is stupid. But I know it's gonna happen There is some truth to my statement though because I expect to shoot more PS shots and even with motion correction, vibration from tripod is still going to cause problems there.

05-12-2016, 04:52 PM	#30
micromacro Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Florida Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,722 Original Poster	Originally posted by Adam I can't think of one off the top of my head. The two formats contain the same data. My LR and comp is extremely slow after I did stupid thing upgrading LR to newest version, and started downloading in DNG. Oh, and I installed Elements 14. Perhaps I need some good spring cleaning in my comp.