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05-22-2016, 12:22 PM - 1 Like   #1
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K1 shake reduction; how good?

Recently having had a chances to hike around here, at this time did not have a tripod, I switched SR ON and took a few shots at 35mm 1/6th and 1/5th shutter speeds, was amazed but the image stabilization. I don't remember having been able to get the same results with the K3. Progress never stops.

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Yeah I've been shooting 50mm mostly since my K1 arrived a couple weeks ago and can get 1 second and half second shutters sometimes... It's a big jump from K3 imo.
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That's very impressive!
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Yeah I've been shooting 50mm mostly since my K1 arrived a couple weeks ago and can get 1 second and half second shutters sometimes... It's a big jump from K3 imo.
I've tried 1s shutter speed, I can get some successful shots, but not every time. At 1/6th, I could get most shots sharp. Of course it depends how steady the photographer is :-) After a drinking a cup of coffee, SR may not seem as effective :-)

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QuoteOriginally posted by biz-engineer Quote
Recently having had a chances to hike around here, at this time did not have a tripod, I switched SR ON and took a few shots at 35mm 1/6th and 1/5th shutter speeds, was amazed but the image stabilization. I don't remember having been able to get the same results with the K3. Progress never stops.
To me it feels like it's more effective, but this could just be an illusion since all my lenses technically provide a wider FoV on FF, hence are more forgiving.

That said, the specs to say that the K-1 has up to a full stop more compensation than the K-3, and works along 5 axes, unlike before.

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I've been very impressed.....I have some as low as 1/15 with my K1 + Bigma 50-500...which is a big and bulky combination. I am finding that 1/25 is a pretty safe speed on the K1 with the Bigma.

From today.....1/125 handheld@ 500mm......There is always some movement in the scene from any breeze affecting the branches...or just the vibrations from the bird landing...SR won't cure that, but overall it works great on the K1. I'd say a noticeable improvement for certain.


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I'm sure Otis never sits still long enough for 1/25th...
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To me it feels like it's more effective, but this could just be an illusion since all my lenses technically provide a wider FoV on FF, hence are more forgiving.
Yes, that's clear. 1/5th shutter, that's 5 stops if you consider that shutter speed should be 1/35th @ 35mm. Maybe the heavier K1 body + DFA lens and the heavier sensor module helps to better stabilize the full frame image compared to a similar situation with a K3. Well, at least, I find amazing what we can do now, that wasn't possible in the past.

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QuoteOriginally posted by biz-engineer Quote
Yes, that's clear. 1/5th shutter, that's 5 stops if you consider that shutter speed should be 1/35th @ 35mm. Maybe the heavier K1 body + DFA lens and the heavier sensor module helps to better stabilize the full frame image compared to a similar situation with a K3. Well, at least, I find amazing what we can do now, that wasn't possible in the past.
Curious about how you have determined passing from 1/35th to 1/5th make 5 stops ?
To me it's more about 3 stops, am i wrong ?
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QuoteOriginally posted by Meg4mi Quote
Curious about how you have determined passing from 1/35th to 1/5th make 5 stops ?
To me it's more about 3 stops, am i wrong ?
5 -> 10 -> 20 -> 40, so yup, about 3 stops. 2.8 to be exact.

You'd have to be down to almost a second for it to be 5 stops.

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Thanks, was wondering if my reasoning was faulty.

Anyway, I'm finding i able to almost reliably get clean picture with a 3 stops slower shutter speed than it should be, but after that point it is kind of "hit or miss".
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Curious about how you have determined passing from 1/35th to 1/5th make 5 stops ? To me it's more about 3 stops, am i wrong ?
correct.
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I've been impressed with the SR on the K1. Coming up from the K5iis, I think it's a nice step. Third shot out of the camera was at 200mm and 1/30 of a second and still very sharp. Not as impressive as some have already mentioned, but it's good to know the camera can handle it.
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My earlier post on the K1s SR.
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QuoteOriginally posted by biz-engineer Quote
Recently having had a chances to hike around here, at this time did not have a tripod, I switched SR ON and took a few shots at 35mm 1/6th and 1/5th shutter speeds, was amazed but the image stabilization. I don't remember having been able to get the same results with the K3. Progress never stops.
One of the things I discovered several decades ago was that when I went to a larger format, heavier camera, handholding at low shutter speeds got much easier. The shake reduction is much improved, but the K-1 is an inherently more stable platform as well.
I've been getting razor sharp images handheld with the F*300/4.5 at speeds well under where I think I should be getting sharp results.
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