Hoping for a new 85mm f1.4 for the K-1

fwbigd · 05-25-2016, 09:59 AM - **1 Like**

As a primarily a portrait shooter I"m really hoping that Ricoh bring out a new DFA* 85mm f1.4 new the near future.

biz-engineer · 05-25-2016, 10:07 AM

Maybe already on its way (from Tamron?), I wonder when it will be released.

Winder · 05-25-2016, 10:17 AM

I looks like one is on the map. I'm using my Sigma 85mm for the time being. We will see how the new glass stacks up. The D-FA* 70-200mm is also very good at 85mm, but its heavy. It stays in the bag more than I like. I want to use it more.

stevebrot · 05-25-2016, 11:34 AM

Originally posted by Winder

I looks like one is on the map.

By this, he means the Pentax lens development road map:

http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/japan/products/lens/images/K_Mount_D_FA_Lens_Roadmap.pdf

A fast medium telephoto is slated for 2017, though what "medium" means is anyone's guess. 85mm is a short tele in FF land.

Steve

narual · 05-25-2016, 11:42 AM

Originally posted by stevebrot

what "medium" means is anyone's guess.

Ditto for "fast"

It could be the 77 ltd with HD coating, except as you said, short tele.

**UncleVanya** · 05-25-2016, 12:16 PM

Originally posted by fwbigd

As a primarily a portrait shooter I"m really hoping that Ricoh bring out a new DFA* 85mm f1.4 new the near future.

Is the FA 77 limited lacking for this for you? I went from using A* 85 f/1.4 to FA 77 but admittedly I did this in the context of APSC. However the 77 was created for film seven years after the FA* 85 was created and overlapped it for 5 years and stayed in production afterwords. My expectation should I end up with a K-1 is that I would use the FA 77 for that. Am I being naive?

Wheatfield · 05-25-2016, 12:19 PM

Originally posted by fwbigd

As a primarily a portrait shooter I"m really hoping that Ricoh bring out a new DFA* 85mm f1.4 new the near future.

There are a lot of focal lengths that Ricoh needs to release in a hurry. An 85/1.4 is just one of many

Adam · 05-25-2016, 12:37 PM

I'd bank on that "medium telephoto" being an 85mm.

That said, the Sigma 85mm and FA* 85mm F1.4 lenses don't leave much to be desired, unless you're looking for weather sealing.

**UncleVanya** · 05-25-2016, 12:47 PM

Originally posted by Adam

I'd bank on that "medium telephoto" being an 85mm.

That said, the Sigma 85mm and FA* 85mm F1.4 lenses don't leave much to be desired, unless you're looking for weather sealing.

To me that's surprising. With the FA 77 available and the DFA 100; but nothing between 100 and 200 and the only 200 being slightly less than FF enough that it defaults to crop and has a profile to help it be full frame, I would think a 135 f/2.8 or f/2 would be more in demand or a replacement for the DA 200. The 85 f/1.4 is absolutely shallower than the FA 77 - but the FA 77 was created concurrent with the FA* 85 and many seemed to prefer it for specific rendering at the time of the release.

And as though that wasn't enough - in no way is an 85mm a medium telephoto in full frame. It's short. but terms get translated and people forget frame of reference so I assume it could easily be true.

I have zero inside knowledge and limited understanding of the market so take me with a serious grain of salt.

stevebrot · 05-25-2016, 01:20 PM

Originally posted by Wheatfield

There are a lot of focal lengths that Ricoh needs to release in a hurry. An 85/1.4 is just one of many

I would guess 120mm f/2

Revival of A* 135/1.8?

Steve

SBeck · 05-25-2016, 02:05 PM

I like my FA*85 just fine as is on the K-1. It doesn't focus reliably at 1.4 but I have no issue manually focusing it. And from 2.8 on focus is accurate and fast. Image quality is flawless.
I'd love a DFA* 135/1.8 personally.

farmerDavid · 05-25-2016, 03:51 PM

According to that Ricoh survey that circulated, large aperture means 1.4 in the 85 mm waters and 1.8 or 2 in the 135 mm.
I'm with those wishing for a *135 1.8
oh and I hope the new 50 will be 1.2 or 1. I don't need it but hey, it would sure be fun and I would buy both.
David

cali92rs · 05-25-2016, 03:59 PM

To me, 85mm is much less important than 24mm (or even better 20mm ) prime.
Of course, that is highly subjective

However, there is already a 77mm and 100mm out there in the short/mid telephoto range but nothing wider than 31mm :/

stevebrot · 05-25-2016, 04:04 PM

Originally posted by cali92rs

However, there is already a 77mm and 100mm out there in the short/mid telephoto range but nothing wider than 31mm :/

There is supposed to be a wide angle in the pipeline, but since it is not labeled premium or fast, I would expect a 28/2.8 just like in the old days.

Steve

cali92rs · 05-25-2016, 04:15 PM

Originally posted by stevebrot

There is supposed to be a wide angle in the pipeline, but since it is not labeled premium or fast, I would expect a 28/2.8 just like in the old days.

Steve

I wouldn't mind a 24mm f2.8 (or even better a 20mm f2.8)

But imho 28mm is too close to 31mm...similar to 77 and 85.

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biz-engineer Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 12,231	Maybe already on its way (from Tamron?), I wonder when it will be released.

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Winder Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 6,617	I looks like one is on the map. I'm using my Sigma 85mm for the time being. We will see how the new glass stacks up. The D-FA* 70-200mm is also very good at 85mm, but its heavy. It stays in the bag more than I like. I want to use it more.

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stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by Winder I looks like one is on the map. By this, he means the Pentax lens development road map: http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/japan/products/lens/images/K_Mount_D_FA_Lens_Roadmap.pdf A fast medium telephoto is slated for 2017, though what "medium" means is anyone's guess. 85mm is a short tele in FF land. Steve

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narual Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: South Bend (Notre Dame), Indiana Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,988	Originally posted by stevebrot what "medium" means is anyone's guess. Ditto for "fast" It could be the 77 ltd with HD coating, except as you said, short tele.

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UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,401	Originally posted by fwbigd As a primarily a portrait shooter I"m really hoping that Ricoh bring out a new DFA* 85mm f1.4 new the near future. Is the FA 77 limited lacking for this for you? I went from using A* 85 f/1.4 to FA 77 but admittedly I did this in the context of APSC. However the 77 was created for film seven years after the FA* 85 was created and overlapped it for 5 years and stayed in production afterwords. My expectation should I end up with a K-1 is that I would use the FA 77 for that. Am I being naive?

05-25-2016, 12:19 PM	#7
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,981	Originally posted by fwbigd As a primarily a portrait shooter I"m really hoping that Ricoh bring out a new DFA* 85mm f1.4 new the near future. There are a lot of focal lengths that Ricoh needs to release in a hurry. An 85/1.4 is just one of many

05-25-2016, 12:47 PM	#9
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,401	Originally posted by Adam I'd bank on that "medium telephoto" being an 85mm. That said, the Sigma 85mm and FA* 85mm F1.4 lenses don't leave much to be desired, unless you're looking for weather sealing. To me that's surprising. With the FA 77 available and the DFA 100; but nothing between 100 and 200 and the only 200 being slightly less than FF enough that it defaults to crop and has a profile to help it be full frame, I would think a 135 f/2.8 or f/2 would be more in demand or a replacement for the DA 200. The 85 f/1.4 is absolutely shallower than the FA 77 - but the FA 77 was created concurrent with the FA* 85 and many seemed to prefer it for specific rendering at the time of the release. And as though that wasn't enough - in no way is an 85mm a medium telephoto in full frame. It's short. but terms get translated and people forget frame of reference so I assume it could easily be true. I have zero inside knowledge and limited understanding of the market so take me with a serious grain of salt.

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stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by Wheatfield There are a lot of focal lengths that Ricoh needs to release in a hurry. An 85/1.4 is just one of many I would guess 120mm f/2 Revival of A* 135/1.8? Steve

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SBeck Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 113	I like my FA85 just fine as is on the K-1. It doesn't focus reliably at 1.4 but I have no issue manually focusing it. And from 2.8 on focus is accurate and fast. Image quality is flawless. I'd love a DFA 135/1.8 personally.

05-25-2016, 03:51 PM	#12
farmerDavid Guest	According to that Ricoh survey that circulated, large aperture means 1.4 in the 85 mm waters and 1.8 or 2 in the 135 mm. I'm with those wishing for a *135 1.8 oh and I hope the new 50 will be 1.2 or 1. I don't need it but hey, it would sure be fun and I would buy both. David

05-25-2016, 03:59 PM	#13
cali92rs Veteran Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 3,354	To me, 85mm is much less important than 24mm (or even better 20mm ) prime. Of course, that is highly subjective However, there is already a 77mm and 100mm out there in the short/mid telephoto range but nothing wider than 31mm :/

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stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by cali92rs However, there is already a 77mm and 100mm out there in the short/mid telephoto range but nothing wider than 31mm :/ There is supposed to be a wide angle in the pipeline, but since it is not labeled premium or fast, I would expect a 28/2.8 just like in the old days. Steve

05-25-2016, 04:15 PM	#15
cali92rs Veteran Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 3,354	Originally posted by stevebrot There is supposed to be a wide angle in the pipeline, but since it is not labeled premium or fast, I would expect a 28/2.8 just like in the old days. Steve I wouldn't mind a 24mm f2.8 (or even better a 20mm f2.8) But imho 28mm is too close to 31mm...similar to 77 and 85.