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06-03-2016, 06:24 PM   #16
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I'll take your K-3II for 80 dollars and a can of refrigerated biscuit dough.

06-04-2016, 03:42 AM   #17
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Not to change the subject but I would be curious as to what legacy lenses are we talking that give the great results.
well lets see.....I used a Rikenon XR 28mm 2.8 with great results......a Pentax 50mm SMCK 50mm 1.7 with also astounding results......... A $10 Rokinon 135mm 2.8 with results that completely smoked every 135mm lens I ever used.........a Rikenon XR 35mm 2.8 that wasn't the greatest , but did very well.
I also tried a couple SMC Takumars with more than stellar performance.......the one that seemed to have a ton of magic pixie dust was my 24mm Super Takumar and a 200mm f2.5.


actually.....I didn't find a lens that DIDNT perform well. THAT Surprised me !

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I'll take your K-3II for 80 dollars and a can of refrigerated biscuit dough.
Sorry......someone beat you to it for $50 and a Tub of Catfish Stink Bait ! Damn....I knew I should have held out !

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06-04-2016, 03:56 AM   #18
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Just for my education: why would any lens perform better on FF than on APS-c? Or am I misinterpreting the discussion?
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Just for my education: why would any lens perform better on FF than on APS-c? Or am I misinterpreting the discussion?
Never said better.......Just better than many predicted they would.
The Vintage Manual lenses I shoot show much better 3-D effect on FF......that is Certain over APSc.
I will still shoot with my two KS-2 bodies and will never give up APSc.....yes Sir ...... But the FF experience was long overdue ......I Just didn't know it till I looked for myself.
My K3II just doesn't get used hardly at all......I'm always In or On the water and just don't want to risk a higher end body with it or the K1 that is soon coming.


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QuoteOriginally posted by bxf Quote
Just for my education: why would any lens perform better on FF than on APS-c? Or am I misinterpreting the discussion?
APS-C throws away about 56% of what the lens is trying to send to the sensor. Plus on APS-C magnification has to be higher to produce the same size picture. As a result the FF sensor pictures from a given FF lens look more detailed than the same lens on APS-C.
06-04-2016, 08:33 AM   #21
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QuoteOriginally posted by TedW Quote
Not to change the subject but I would be curious as to what legacy lenses are we talking that give the great results.
for pentax legacy glass, 28mm to about 35mm can be magic... my favorite for landscapes is the m28/3.5, here is an unprocessed ooc jpeg example on the a7r, blow it up to 100% and pixel peep the sides and corners: https://www.dropbox.com/sc/4axj2t2btcq46ia/AAAYjnpTXjkL_K9ngU3T40aea

ugly bokeh, but do you really need bokeh on a 28mm lens... the pentax-m series wide lenses deliver in the corners, while the wide taks are weaker there, but sometimes stronger across the middle 2/3rds of the frame.

for example, the pentax-m35/2.8 is a low contrast lens, as proven with focus peaking, but it's better in the corners than my super tak 35/3.5; however the latter absolutely pops in that middle 2/3rds of the frame... different horses for different courses.

at 50mm, all three of my takumars never sharpen up fully in the corners, so for landscapes the more modern k-mount is probably the way to go: 50mm prime lens comparison, shot on Sony a7R, first round

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Just for my education: why would any lens perform better on FF than on APS-c? Or am I misinterpreting the discussion?
i don't know that people were talking ff vs. crop, but the answer is that the more pixels you can put in a photo, the higher the resolution will be... flip side is, more pixels will show defects much more clearly.

the struggle with camera lenses is always at wider focal lengths; by the time you hit 100-135mm, they all tend to be clean across the frame.
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Sorry......someone beat you to it for $50 and a Tub of Catfish Stink Bait ! Damn....I knew I should have held out !

Rats. If you get another, please let me know. I'll even throw in a box of frozen fish sticks to sweeten the deal.
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QuoteOriginally posted by monochrome Quote
My guess is, lenses that we'd thought of as pretty good will be Very Good, and lenses that were very good but recently ignored (e.g. FA24~90) will regain some of their former glory.
I never understood why the FA24-90 was ignored even during the film days. A great lens that let you go ultra-wide. It was paired with the MZ-S in the Pentax brochures & ads.

The K-1 is in stock in camera shops here in Western Canada.

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QuoteOriginally posted by tranq78 Quote
I never understood why the FA24-90 was ignored even during the film days. A great lens that let you go ultra-wide. It was paired with the MZ-S in the Pentax brochures & ads.

The K-1 is in stock in camera shops here in Western Canada.
It is often paired with the MZ-S in my camera bag.

I think there were some QC issues (decentering and zoom wobble) that left a bad taste, but as you say, it is much better than a consumer zoom from 40 - 70 and competent at its extremes.
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Funny when I remember all the sceptics slandering vintage lenses.
Not only vintage lens - some modern lens were deemed "dogs". Even the dogs are finding new life
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Right now I have the 3 princesses, K85/1.8, K50/1.4, FA24-90, Sears 135/2.8, Chinon 50/1.4 and an old generation Sigma70-200/2.8 to accompany my K1.

I am collecting an F85/2.8 Soft tomorrow from a seller. Will test and post in the K1 picture thread.
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I ordered mine from Amazon on Sunday and received shipping notification that I'll get mine on Wednesday.
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Not only vintage lens - some modern lens were deemed "dogs". Even the dogs are finding new life
Yes......I just picked up Several DOGS on Goodwill after trying it out with some Dogs I already own!
I'm not really a Pixel Peeper....but there is just something quite noticeable side by side with my K3II that stands apart quite noticeably in the images........I couldn't NOT Go All In.
30 Minutes with a Rikenon P 50mm 2.0 , and a lower rated Rikenon P 28mm 2.8........I was SOLD on the K1. Once the Takumars and the Rikenon XR 28mm hit the K1's Mount.......I was Drooling ! Simply a Done Deal after a single hour of use........That should say something right there to anyone contemplating the K1.
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