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09-07-2016, 09:29 AM - 1 Like   #46
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QuoteOriginally posted by BarryE Quote
Last week I received a new, shiny K-1 ... and well I'm a little ... don't know whether I'll be allowed to say this, but to be a honest, I'm a little underwhelmed. There said it.

Why ?

I am making this comparison to the K-3 I've used extensively with Limiteds and DA* s for two years. So far I've only compared with the D-FA 100mm - new 24-70 to come, soon. I chose to add the K-1, for a few reasons, not least I wanted large square crops, which I have struggled to achieve from the K-3 and pixel shift for art reproduction work. I had hoped for more, but ...

** First off it is very early days. So if I survive this I may add more:

It's very easy to adjust to from the K-3, apart from the much louder SR noise which threw me at first. It is bigger and heavier (as the lenses will be), and I will notice it. I will be carrying both cameras, so it is not a case of getting used to it. I'll have to adjust to the different dof and focal lengths, which have become instinctive - I bet I'll make many more mistakes. Sadly mistakes, equate to missed opportunities. I knew this would be likely to happen.

What has surprised me is how little difference there is between the quality of the files at ISO 100 and 200 between the K-3 and the K-1. (Using tripod, MUP and remote). The difference doesn't really exist in noise, even when the files are pushed in post. Also, so far, the dynamic range is virtually the same, at low ISO. The DR is where I thought I'd see a difference ... The K-1 is clearly better at ISO 400 upwards. I expect I will see no (or little discernible) difference from low ISO images when printed, apart from very large output. I've just sold an A1 commission from my K-3 - the detail and tonal range was very well received. Will I want to go bigger still ... ?

The k-1 is clearly a very competent camera, but for the way I *have* been working, it is very similar in output to the K-3, which shows how good the K-3 really is.

It is only a few days into my ownership, so this post probably means very little, especially as I probably work in a fairly limited way, having learnt to get my technique tuned to what the K-3 can do. I'm sure the K-1 will change the way I work. Whether it is worth the weight, expense and initial confusion, I guess I'll find out.

I tried out the 645Z when it came out and the difference in IQ/Noise etc between the K-3 and the 645Z was very significant. Folk have said the K-1 gets near - not for me it doesn't.

* Please don't read this post as being negative to the K-1, I know there are some sensitive types out there ;-). I am greatly looking forward to owning a FF and exploring different ways of working - this is why I eventually purchased it - it just hasn't wowed me to start with. I see it as a( small ?) incremental improvement ...

Will I now be banned ?
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QuoteOriginally posted by BarryE Quote
I'm beginning to think that I'm embarking in a period of considered counselling, thanks to PentaxForums. At the moment I'm in a bad space. Recovery will be slow, but with the help I get here I *will* get through it... won't I ?
after a course of antibiotics you'll be fine


09-07-2016, 11:10 AM   #47
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QuoteOriginally posted by Rondec Quote
The biggest negative to me about the K-1 is that Pentax hasn't come out with a DA 15 limited substitute. I own the DFA 15-30 and it is fine, but what I really want is a small, ultra flare resistant, slow aperture 18 to 20mm prime. For all its quirks, the DA 15 is about the perfect landscape lens and while I can mount it on the K-1 it seems like a waste to do so when I own the honking big 15-30.
I think your problem will be solved very soon. I would expect to see one announced at Photokina.
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A few pictures you wouldn't have shooting with a K-1.
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On a 4k monitor, a few feet away from the screen where I work on PP, I can pick out the K1 or A7R shots pretty easily. The difference between the K3 and K5 can be seen as well. However, on the 27" monitor or a 65" Ultra 4k TV screen, at normal viewing distances, the K3 and K1 are indistinguishable. Both are stunning on the large screen.


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