DXO mark tests the Pentax K-1

btnapa · 09-15-2016, 01:21 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by superpowerpinger

https://www.dxomark.com/Reviews/Pentax-K-1-sensor-review-Full-frame-marvel

As it is, K1 is in a league of its own. However, if they factored in the price (value), it would be number one by a wide margin. And all the talk about not having enough lenses for the system is just noise. There is plenty of glass to create world class images. We just needed a capable FF camera and Pentax gave it to us. Kudos to Pentax/Ricoh guys.

biz-engineer · 09-15-2016, 01:48 PM

Excellent ! Yeah , 3280 ISO sport and 96 grade, that's pretty good, among the top full frame performers. I want to check the color accuracy. I don't know if that the lenses I use or the sensor , but the colors I get from the K1 aren't exactly the ones I would like to see.

gnugent · 09-15-2016, 01:58 PM

it,s pretty obviously from that the k1 really is the best bang per buck in the world of full frame cameras .....when you look at that main page on DXO the thing that jumps out is the price of the other cameras compare to the k1

it a great camera ...but we knew that already

Unregistered User · 09-15-2016, 02:03 PM

Originally posted by biz-engineer

Excellent ! Yeah , 3280 ISO sport and 96 grade, that's pretty good, among the top full frame performers. I want to check the color accuracy. I don't know if that the lenses I use or the sensor , but the colors I get from the K1 aren't exactly the ones I would like to see.

What do you use for developement?

biz-engineer · 09-15-2016, 02:10 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Tjompen1968

What do you use for developement?

I use PDCU or in camera development. Since I moved from the K200 (CCD) to K5 (CMOS), K3 and now K1, I was never really content with the colors of CMOS, and my impression is that it got worse. I think I'd need a color calibration card and try to tune colors to my taste. I think I'm not talented for colors, it feel out of control.

**BarryE** · 09-15-2016, 02:24 PM

Originally posted by biz-engineer

Excellent ! Yeah , 3280 ISO sport and 96 grade, that's pretty good, among the top full frame performers. I want to check the color accuracy. I don't know if that the lenses I use or the sensor , but the colors I get from the K1 aren't exactly the ones I would like to see.

Mmmm ...I'm inclined to think that too. Well a little. No intention of hijacking this thread...

It is great to see dxomark showing these measurements, not that we're probably that surprised. (Surprised they actually published them, though ;-) )

F2 Cameracraft magazine just reviewed the K-1 in the UK and I quote "We'd have to say the K-1 is the best specified and priced FF DSLR on the market right now".

biz-engineer · 09-15-2016, 02:29 PM

Originally posted by BarryE

F2 Cameracraft magazine just reviewed the K-1 in the UK and I quote "We'd have to say the K-1 is the best specified and priced FF DSLR on the market right now".

The K1 camera itself , yes, for the price , it is very well spec. I guess the K1 shines best with primes lenses including some of the FA or FA ltd lenses.

swanlefitte · 09-15-2016, 04:21 PM

It scored the highest under sport and was beaten in landscape which shows why dxo scores need interpretation. They may be accurate but not qualified. Landscape, is where it shines with tilt screen and ps. Sports is where it can improve with fps and focus.

vladfrenkel · 09-15-2016, 04:37 PM - **2 Likes**

https://www.dxomark.com/Cameras/Pentax/K-1

They have tested it with Pixelshift turned off. Still good results IMHO. (and they can test advance features - eg they have tested SuperRaw for the DXO One...)

MarkJerling · 09-15-2016, 05:26 PM

What jumped out for me was:
1. Look at the prices of the other top 10 cameras, compared with the K-1.
2. Not a single Canon anywhere in the top 10.

npc · 09-15-2016, 05:26 PM

Originally posted by swanlefitte

It scored the highest under sport and was beaten in landscape which shows why dxo scores need interpretation. They may be accurate but not qualified. Landscape, is where it shines with tilt screen and ps. Sports is where it can improve with fps and focus.

It's enough to keep in mind that when they say "camera score" they actually mean "sensor score" and ultimately it really is more like "raw file score".

Winder · 09-15-2016, 05:45 PM

Originally posted by swanlefitte

It scored the highest under sport and was beaten in landscape which shows why dxo scores need interpretation. They may be accurate but not qualified. Landscape, is where it shines with tilt screen and ps. Sports is where it can improve with fps and focus.

DxO is only testing the performance of the sensor, not the camera.

**clackers** · 09-15-2016, 05:51 PM

Originally posted by biz-engineer

I use PDCU or in camera development. Since I moved from the K200 (CCD) to K5 (CMOS), K3 and now K1, I was never really content with the colors of CMOS, and my impression is that it got worse. I think I'd need a color calibration card and try to tune colors to my taste. I think I'm not talented for colors, it feel out of control.

If ever there was a guy who was meant to buy a colour calibration card, it's you, Biz-engineer!

I have a Spyder Express.

normhead · 09-15-2016, 06:27 PM

Those are pretty good numbers. When you consider that cameras differing by 4 points or less are often pretty much indistinguishable from each other, that means it;s pretty much on equal footing with the best that's out there.

surfar · 09-15-2016, 06:29 PM

Originally posted by btnapa

it would be number one by a wide margin

It is, in K mount!

09-15-2016, 04:37 PM - 2 Likes	#24
vladfrenkel Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Photos: Albums Posts: 265	DxoMark finally tested K1 https://www.dxomark.com/Cameras/Pentax/K-1 They have tested it with Pixelshift turned off. Still good results IMHO. (and they can test advance features - eg they have tested SuperRaw for the DXO One...)

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09-15-2016, 01:21 PM - 1 Like	#16
btnapa Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 1,616	Originally posted by superpowerpinger https://www.dxomark.com/Reviews/Pentax-K-1-sensor-review-Full-frame-marvel As it is, K1 is in a league of its own. However, if they factored in the price (value), it would be number one by a wide margin. And all the talk about not having enough lenses for the system is just noise. There is plenty of glass to create world class images. We just needed a capable FF camera and Pentax gave it to us. Kudos to Pentax/Ricoh guys.

09-15-2016, 01:48 PM	#17
biz-engineer Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 12,232	Excellent ! Yeah , 3280 ISO sport and 96 grade, that's pretty good, among the top full frame performers. I want to check the color accuracy. I don't know if that the lenses I use or the sensor , but the colors I get from the K1 aren't exactly the ones I would like to see.

09-15-2016, 01:58 PM	#18
gnugent Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Photos: Albums Posts: 47	it,s pretty obviously from that the k1 really is the best bang per buck in the world of full frame cameras .....when you look at that main page on DXO the thing that jumps out is the price of the other cameras compare to the k1 it a great camera ...but we knew that already

09-15-2016, 02:03 PM	#19
Unregistered User Guest	Originally posted by biz-engineer Excellent ! Yeah , 3280 ISO sport and 96 grade, that's pretty good, among the top full frame performers. I want to check the color accuracy. I don't know if that the lenses I use or the sensor , but the colors I get from the K1 aren't exactly the ones I would like to see. What do you use for developement?

09-15-2016, 02:10 PM - 1 Like	#20
biz-engineer Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 12,232	Originally posted by Tjompen1968 What do you use for developement? I use PDCU or in camera development. Since I moved from the K200 (CCD) to K5 (CMOS), K3 and now K1, I was never really content with the colors of CMOS, and my impression is that it got worse. I think I'd need a color calibration card and try to tune colors to my taste. I think I'm not talented for colors, it feel out of control.

09-15-2016, 02:24 PM	#21
BarryE Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 1,653	Originally posted by biz-engineer Excellent ! Yeah , 3280 ISO sport and 96 grade, that's pretty good, among the top full frame performers. I want to check the color accuracy. I don't know if that the lenses I use or the sensor , but the colors I get from the K1 aren't exactly the ones I would like to see. Mmmm ...I'm inclined to think that too. Well a little. No intention of hijacking this thread... It is great to see dxomark showing these measurements, not that we're probably that surprised. (Surprised they actually published them, though ;-) ) F2 Cameracraft magazine just reviewed the K-1 in the UK and I quote "We'd have to say the K-1 is the best specified and priced FF DSLR on the market right now".

09-15-2016, 02:29 PM	#22
biz-engineer Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 12,232	Originally posted by BarryE F2 Cameracraft magazine just reviewed the K-1 in the UK and I quote "We'd have to say the K-1 is the best specified and priced FF DSLR on the market right now". The K1 camera itself , yes, for the price , it is very well spec. I guess the K1 shines best with primes lenses including some of the FA or FA ltd lenses.

09-15-2016, 04:21 PM	#23
swanlefitte Pentaxian Join Date: May 2015 Location: Minneapolis Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,068	It scored the highest under sport and was beaten in landscape which shows why dxo scores need interpretation. They may be accurate but not qualified. Landscape, is where it shines with tilt screen and ps. Sports is where it can improve with fps and focus.

09-15-2016, 05:26 PM	#25
MarkJerling Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: May 2012 Location: Wairarapa, New Zealand Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 20,406	What jumped out for me was: 1. Look at the prices of the other top 10 cameras, compared with the K-1. 2. Not a single Canon anywhere in the top 10.

09-15-2016, 05:26 PM	#26
npc Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 313	Originally posted by swanlefitte It scored the highest under sport and was beaten in landscape which shows why dxo scores need interpretation. They may be accurate but not qualified. Landscape, is where it shines with tilt screen and ps. Sports is where it can improve with fps and focus. It's enough to keep in mind that when they say "camera score" they actually mean "sensor score" and ultimately it really is more like "raw file score".

09-15-2016, 05:45 PM	#27
Winder Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 6,617	Originally posted by swanlefitte It scored the highest under sport and was beaten in landscape which shows why dxo scores need interpretation. They may be accurate but not qualified. Landscape, is where it shines with tilt screen and ps. Sports is where it can improve with fps and focus. DxO is only testing the performance of the sensor, not the camera.

09-15-2016, 05:51 PM	#28
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	Originally posted by biz-engineer I use PDCU or in camera development. Since I moved from the K200 (CCD) to K5 (CMOS), K3 and now K1, I was never really content with the colors of CMOS, and my impression is that it got worse. I think I'd need a color calibration card and try to tune colors to my taste. I think I'm not talented for colors, it feel out of control. If ever there was a guy who was meant to buy a colour calibration card, it's you, Biz-engineer! I have a Spyder Express.

09-15-2016, 06:27 PM	#29
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Those are pretty good numbers. When you consider that cameras differing by 4 points or less are often pretty much indistinguishable from each other, that means it;s pretty much on equal footing with the best that's out there.

09-15-2016, 06:29 PM	#30
surfar Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: mid nth coast,nsw Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,141	Originally posted by btnapa it would be number one by a wide margin It is, in K mount!