New K-1 Rattles

The Kid · 10-14-2016, 06:21 PM

This doesn't even seem like it should be a question, but here goes....

My new K-1 just arrived today. While I was turning it over to examine the new controls, I noticed a perceptible "clunk". I gave it a gentle shake - clunk, clunk. I installed a battery and a lens on the off chance that something related could be causing it. Clunk. It sounds as though a large internal component never got screwed into place. It powers up normally, focuses, etc., but the language selection screen comes up every time it is powered up. Most interestingly, the clunk is there after installing a lens, but after it focuses for the first time, the clunk goes away. Remove the lens, the clunk returns.

Anybody had this issue? Neither my K-3 or my K-5IIs do anything similar and it has me a little concerned about Ricoh's QC......

Unregistered User 8 · 10-14-2016, 06:27 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by The Kid

New K-1 Rattles

This old thread should explain it for you.

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/190-pentax-k-1/328752-dull-noise-new-k-1-when-moving.html

Sandy Hancock · 10-14-2016, 06:29 PM - **1 Like**

It is the shake reduction mechanism.
Nothing to worry about.

Wheatfield · 10-14-2016, 06:33 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by The Kid

This doesn't even seem like it should be a question, but here goes....

My new K-1 just arrived today. While I was turning it over to examine the new controls, I noticed a perceptible "clunk". I gave it a gentle shake - clunk, clunk. I installed a battery and a lens on the off chance that something related could be causing it. Clunk. It sounds as though a large internal component never got screwed into place. It powers up normally, focuses, etc., but the language selection screen comes up every time it is powered up. Most interestingly, the clunk is there after installing a lens, but after it focuses for the first time, the clunk goes away. Remove the lens, the clunk returns.

Anybody had this issue? Neither my K-3 or my K-5IIs do anything similar and it has me a little concerned about Ricoh's QC......

I believe this is addressed in the owners manual. Have you read it yet?

The Kid · 10-14-2016, 06:47 PM

Originally posted by pjv

This old thread should explain it for you.

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/190-pentax-k-1/328752-dull-noise-new-k-1-when-moving.html

Thank you!

Originally posted by Sandy Hancock

It is the shake reduction mechanism.
Nothing to worry about.

Thank you!

Originally posted by Wheatfield

I believe this is addressed in the owners manual. Have you read it yet?

Nope, haven't gotten that far. I was just unpacking it.

Thanks for the quick replies. It was less than reassuring to hear immediately upon removing it from the box!

jimr-pdx · 10-14-2016, 08:24 PM - **1 Like**

Pentax owners since 2008 know that feeling, both the rattle and the discouragement - but then we learn and feel just fine!

**loveisageless** · 10-14-2016, 10:16 PM

It's a right of passage :-)

Davidparis · 10-14-2016, 11:13 PM

That feeling when you think you have a problem and discover that you don't...

**snpsht** · 10-15-2016, 01:58 AM

You'll come to love that feeling - it is unique to Pentax!

Gimbal · 10-15-2016, 03:47 AM

I have however another rattle that is slightly irritating.

I'm used to the SR clunk but this is something else, something smaller and not that heavy that only moves a very short distance. It seems to come from the top of the camera, perhaps inside the viewfinder. It does sound and feel as if a thin piece of glas was lose and rattles back and forth a fraction of a millimeter.

To hear the sound I hold the camera normal, aiming for the horizon and slowly turns the camera upwards and "click", turn downwards and "click". When you find the pivoting point one only needs to wiggle the camera a few degrees to hear the lose part tilt back and fort.

Anyone else having this "problem"? Not a big deal, but then add that the grip isn't solid but can move slightly and make a smal noise while doing so does take away from the solid premium feeling one could hope for.

**ffking** · 10-15-2016, 04:21 AM

Originally posted by Gimbal

To hear the sound I hold the camera normal, aiming for the horizon and slowly turns the camera upwards and "click", turn downwards and "click". When you find the pivoting point one only needs to wiggle the camera a few degrees to hear the lose part tilt back and fort.

I think I can hear what you mean - I'm sure it's not something wrong, but I've no idea what it is

The Kid · 10-15-2016, 10:50 AM

Originally posted by jimr-pdx

Pentax owners since 2008 know that feeling, both the rattle and the discouragement - but then we learn and feel just fine!

Actually, I've owned a K-5IIs and a K-3 for several years. With my older models, there is a slight perception of something sliding inside them when they are moved aggressively. My new K-1, on the other hand, makes a very noticeable clunk when it is merely turned over to access the battery compartment - there is a very significant difference in both the movement necessary to cause the sound and in the volume of the sound.

I plan on shooting the hell out of it while still under Adorama's return period, but I had planned on doing that anyway!

Thanks again for everyone's input.

jimr-pdx · 10-15-2016, 11:11 AM

Gotcha - more mass to shift. It amazes me that they could make a more massive SR and boost the stops of compensation for the K-1

Bigger magnets will do that I guess!

Wheatfield · 10-16-2016, 06:23 AM

Originally posted by ffking

I think I can hear what you mean - I'm sure it's not something wrong, but I've no idea what it is

Isn't there an orientation sensor in the camera to tell it if it's being held vertically?

Gimbal · 10-17-2016, 01:53 AM

Originally posted by Wheatfield

Isn't there an orientation sensor in the camera to tell it if it's being held vertically?

Sort of, there are accelerometers that measure the strength of the gravitation in X, Y and Z direction and thus can calculate the orientation of the camera body in relation to the gravitational field. But those sensors do not rattle.

10-14-2016, 06:21 PM	#1
The Kid Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 28	New K-1 Rattles This doesn't even seem like it should be a question, but here goes.... My new K-1 just arrived today. While I was turning it over to examine the new controls, I noticed a perceptible "clunk". I gave it a gentle shake - clunk, clunk. I installed a battery and a lens on the off chance that something related could be causing it. Clunk. It sounds as though a large internal component never got screwed into place. It powers up normally, focuses, etc., but the language selection screen comes up every time it is powered up. Most interestingly, the clunk is there after installing a lens, but after it focuses for the first time, the clunk goes away. Remove the lens, the clunk returns. Anybody had this issue? Neither my K-3 or my K-5IIs do anything similar and it has me a little concerned about Ricoh's QC......

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10-14-2016, 06:27 PM - 1 Like	#2
Unregistered User 8 Closed Account Join Date: Mar 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,694	Originally posted by The Kid New K-1 Rattles This old thread should explain it for you. https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/190-pentax-k-1/328752-dull-noise-new-k-1-when-moving.html

10-14-2016, 06:29 PM - 1 Like	#3
Sandy Hancock Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Adelaide Hills, South Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,272	It is the shake reduction mechanism. Nothing to worry about.

10-14-2016, 06:33 PM - 2 Likes	#4
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,977	Originally posted by The Kid This doesn't even seem like it should be a question, but here goes.... My new K-1 just arrived today. While I was turning it over to examine the new controls, I noticed a perceptible "clunk". I gave it a gentle shake - clunk, clunk. I installed a battery and a lens on the off chance that something related could be causing it. Clunk. It sounds as though a large internal component never got screwed into place. It powers up normally, focuses, etc., but the language selection screen comes up every time it is powered up. Most interestingly, the clunk is there after installing a lens, but after it focuses for the first time, the clunk goes away. Remove the lens, the clunk returns. Anybody had this issue? Neither my K-3 or my K-5IIs do anything similar and it has me a little concerned about Ricoh's QC...... I believe this is addressed in the owners manual. Have you read it yet?

10-14-2016, 06:47 PM	#5
The Kid Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 28 Original Poster	Originally posted by pjv This old thread should explain it for you. https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/190-pentax-k-1/328752-dull-noise-new-k-1-when-moving.html Thank you! Originally posted by Sandy Hancock It is the shake reduction mechanism. Nothing to worry about. Thank you! Originally posted by Wheatfield I believe this is addressed in the owners manual. Have you read it yet? Nope, haven't gotten that far. I was just unpacking it. Thanks for the quick replies. It was less than reassuring to hear immediately upon removing it from the box!

10-14-2016, 08:24 PM - 1 Like	#6
jimr-pdx Pentaxian Join Date: May 2010 Location: now 1 hour north of PDX Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,897	Pentax owners since 2008 know that feeling, both the rattle and the discouragement - but then we learn and feel just fine!

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loveisageless Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Oakland, California Photos: Albums Posts: 1,250	It's a right of passage :-)

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Davidparis Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 290	That feeling when you think you have a problem and discover that you don't...

10-15-2016, 01:58 AM	#9
snpsht Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: South Coast, NSW Posts: 286	You'll come to love that feeling - it is unique to Pentax!

10-15-2016, 03:47 AM	#10
Gimbal Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 2,106	I have however another rattle that is slightly irritating. I'm used to the SR clunk but this is something else, something smaller and not that heavy that only moves a very short distance. It seems to come from the top of the camera, perhaps inside the viewfinder. It does sound and feel as if a thin piece of glas was lose and rattles back and forth a fraction of a millimeter. To hear the sound I hold the camera normal, aiming for the horizon and slowly turns the camera upwards and "click", turn downwards and "click". When you find the pivoting point one only needs to wiggle the camera a few degrees to hear the lose part tilt back and fort. Anyone else having this "problem"? Not a big deal, but then add that the grip isn't solid but can move slightly and make a smal noise while doing so does take away from the solid premium feeling one could hope for.

10-15-2016, 04:21 AM	#11
ffking Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Old South Wales Posts: 6,038	Originally posted by Gimbal To hear the sound I hold the camera normal, aiming for the horizon and slowly turns the camera upwards and "click", turn downwards and "click". When you find the pivoting point one only needs to wiggle the camera a few degrees to hear the lose part tilt back and fort. I think I can hear what you mean - I'm sure it's not something wrong, but I've no idea what it is

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10-15-2016, 10:50 AM	#12
The Kid Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 28 Original Poster	Originally posted by jimr-pdx Pentax owners since 2008 know that feeling, both the rattle and the discouragement - but then we learn and feel just fine! Actually, I've owned a K-5IIs and a K-3 for several years. With my older models, there is a slight perception of something sliding inside them when they are moved aggressively. My new K-1, on the other hand, makes a very noticeable clunk when it is merely turned over to access the battery compartment - there is a very significant difference in both the movement necessary to cause the sound and in the volume of the sound. I plan on shooting the hell out of it while still under Adorama's return period, but I had planned on doing that anyway! Thanks again for everyone's input.

10-15-2016, 11:11 AM	#13
jimr-pdx Pentaxian Join Date: May 2010 Location: now 1 hour north of PDX Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,897	Gotcha - more mass to shift. It amazes me that they could make a more massive SR and boost the stops of compensation for the K-1 Bigger magnets will do that I guess!

10-16-2016, 06:23 AM	#14
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,977	Originally posted by ffking I think I can hear what you mean - I'm sure it's not something wrong, but I've no idea what it is Isn't there an orientation sensor in the camera to tell it if it's being held vertically?

10-17-2016, 01:53 AM	#15
Gimbal Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 2,106	Originally posted by Wheatfield Isn't there an orientation sensor in the camera to tell it if it's being held vertically? Sort of, there are accelerometers that measure the strength of the gravitation in X, Y and Z direction and thus can calculate the orientation of the camera body in relation to the gravitational field. But those sensors do not rattle.