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Blade Runner · 10-25-2016, 08:17 AM

What software in best To use with K1? Is Lightroom Cc sufficiente adequate?

MJKoski · 10-25-2016, 08:47 AM

Yes indeed. Motion-correction (unless done manually by blending in Photoshop etc.) is a dead-end with Adobe converter right now. However, PS without motion correction works extremely well and you will be able to extract vast amounts of detail out of the file.

Grognard · 10-25-2016, 08:25 PM

The latest DXO Optics will suffice. DXO is superior to DCU in IQ, user-friendliness and processing speed.

MJKoski · 10-25-2016, 11:35 PM

Does it handle motion-correction? Would be interested to see the results.

Blade Runner · 10-26-2016, 02:17 AM

Thanks for the answers, I'll try DxO

krazykat · 10-26-2016, 04:00 AM

Originally posted by Blade Runner

Thanks for the answers, I'll try DxO

I don't think DXO has any support for pixel shift and, more worryingly, I don't think they have any plans to support it.

Class A · 10-27-2016, 03:30 AM

Originally posted by Blade Runner

What software in best To use with K1? Is Lightroom Cc sufficiente adequate?

Consider Capture One Pro 9. Has many advantages over Lightroom, such as much better colour editing. It doesn't support all of the extra features of LR (such as photobooks), but for RAW development purposes I would not want to go back to LR after having used C1.

victormeldrew · 10-27-2016, 03:57 AM

The included software is best because it is free and has the best support for PS. Gimp is pretty good for post-processing and also free.
That is, unless you have a different idea of 'best', but without knowing what you need it to be capable of it's hard to advise.

**lithedreamer** · 10-30-2016, 08:24 PM

Originally posted by Class A

Consider Capture One Pro 9. Has many advantages over Lightroom, such as much better colour editing. It doesn't support all of the extra features of LR (such as photobooks), but for RAW development purposes I would not want to go back to LR after having used C1.

I guess this is a silly position to take, but since Capture One refuses to support tethering for the K-1 (has gone out of its way to do so), I haven't looked at it closely. Does it have an equivalent to Lightroom's dehaze? I find I use that slider frequently in the Pacific Northwest.

rawr · 10-30-2016, 09:40 PM

Originally posted by lithedreamer

Does it have an equivalent to Lightroom's dehaze?

C1 v8 doesn't, and I am pretty sure neither does the current v9.

If dehaze functionality is important to you, DXO's 'Clearview' slider does an equivalent, and perhaps better job, IMHO that Lightroom's dehaze. (Adobe's 'Dehaze' is a clone of DXO's 'Clearview').

**lithedreamer** · 10-30-2016, 09:47 PM

Originally posted by rawr

C1 v8 doesn't, and I am pretty sure neither does the current v9.

If dehaze functionality is important to you, DXO's 'Clearview' slider does an equivalent, and perhaps better job, IMHO that Lightroom's dehaze. (Adobe's 'Dehaze' is a clone of DXO's 'Clearview').

That's good to know. I'm totally happy with my Lightroom + Photoshop plan, but I appreciate competition, too.

**acoufap** · 10-30-2016, 11:10 PM

Originally posted by rawr

C1 v8 doesn't, and I am pretty sure neither does the current v9.

If dehaze functionality is important to you,...

I don't know what Lightroom dehaze delivers. Sounds like it could be similar C1's Clarity Tool.

If you're interested in the philosophy and what C1 is all about you should read Sascha Erni's Book "Capture One PRO 9". You’ll be surprised what it can do and you'll understand that knowing internals and features of a complex software is hardly done by using it an hour or trial period.

Reading some good literature about it, looking at video tutorials and sticking with a software to get really familiar with it helps. This aplies to C1 and every other choice

**lithedreamer** · 10-30-2016, 11:45 PM

Originally posted by acoufap

I don't know what Lightroom dehaze delivers. Sounds like it could be similar C1's Clarity Tool.

If you're interested in the philosophy and what C1 is all about you should read Sascha Erni's Book "Capture One PRO 9". You’ll be surprised what it can do and you'll understand that knowing internals and features of a complex software is hardly done by using it an hour or trial period.

Reading some good literature about it, looking at video tutorials and sticking with a software to get really familiar with it helps. This aplies to C1 and every other choice

C1's Clarity Tool sounds like Lightroom's Clarity Slider. Indeed, it sounds like they're incomparable: Phase One and Leaf-Mamiya Official User to User Forum ? View topic - Dehaze equivalent?

rawr · 10-30-2016, 11:49 PM

Originally posted by acoufap

I don't know what Lightroom dehaze delivers. Sounds like it could be similar C1's Clarity Tool.

It's more like a combination of C1's Contrast, Clarity and Structure sliders, as others have discovered.

In this area, C1 needs to do some catch-up with LR and DXO, since dehaze is a very handy capability to have packaged into one simple slider. (I've had C1 since v6).

**acoufap** · 10-31-2016, 12:10 AM

Originally posted by rawr

It's more like a combination of C1's Contrast, Clarity and Structure sliders, as others have discovered.

In this area, C1 needs to do some catch-up with LR and DXO, since dehaze is a very handy capability to have packaged into one simple slider. (I've had C1 since v6).

ok, maybe - I never missed such a function. Guess it's simply all about what we expect and how we use different tools in combination. Many roads lead to Rome guided by philosophy and perception.

10-25-2016, 08:17 AM	#1
Blade Runner Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Milano, Italia Posts: 38	Software What software in best To use with K1? Is Lightroom Cc sufficiente adequate?

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Blade Runner Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Milano, Italia Posts: 38 Original Poster	software Thanks for the answers, I'll try DxO

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rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Originally posted by lithedreamer Does it have an equivalent to Lightroom's dehaze? C1 v8 doesn't, and I am pretty sure neither does the current v9. If dehaze functionality is important to you, DXO's 'Clearview' slider does an equivalent, and perhaps better job, IMHO that Lightroom's dehaze. (Adobe's 'Dehaze' is a clone of DXO's 'Clearview'). Last edited by rawr; 10-30-2016 at 09:46 PM.

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10-25-2016, 08:47 AM	#2
MJKoski Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 1,784	Yes indeed. Motion-correction (unless done manually by blending in Photoshop etc.) is a dead-end with Adobe converter right now. However, PS without motion correction works extremely well and you will be able to extract vast amounts of detail out of the file.

10-25-2016, 08:25 PM	#3
Grognard New Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 23	The latest DXO Optics will suffice. DXO is superior to DCU in IQ, user-friendliness and processing speed.

10-25-2016, 11:35 PM	#4
MJKoski Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 1,784	Does it handle motion-correction? Would be interested to see the results.

10-26-2016, 04:00 AM	#6
krazykat Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 546	Originally posted by Blade Runner Thanks for the answers, I'll try DxO I don't think DXO has any support for pixel shift and, more worryingly, I don't think they have any plans to support it.

10-27-2016, 03:30 AM	#7
Class A Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 11,251	Originally posted by Blade Runner What software in best To use with K1? Is Lightroom Cc sufficiente adequate? Consider Capture One Pro 9. Has many advantages over Lightroom, such as much better colour editing. It doesn't support all of the extra features of LR (such as photobooks), but for RAW development purposes I would not want to go back to LR after having used C1.

10-27-2016, 03:57 AM	#8
victormeldrew Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: South West UK Photos: Albums Posts: 1,493	The included software is best because it is free and has the best support for PS. Gimp is pretty good for post-processing and also free. That is, unless you have a different idea of 'best', but without knowing what you need it to be capable of it's hard to advise.

10-30-2016, 08:24 PM	#9
lithedreamer Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2013 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,799	Originally posted by Class A Consider Capture One Pro 9. Has many advantages over Lightroom, such as much better colour editing. It doesn't support all of the extra features of LR (such as photobooks), but for RAW development purposes I would not want to go back to LR after having used C1. I guess this is a silly position to take, but since Capture One refuses to support tethering for the K-1 (has gone out of its way to do so), I haven't looked at it closely. Does it have an equivalent to Lightroom's dehaze? I find I use that slider frequently in the Pacific Northwest.

10-30-2016, 09:47 PM	#11
lithedreamer Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2013 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,799	Originally posted by rawr C1 v8 doesn't, and I am pretty sure neither does the current v9. If dehaze functionality is important to you, DXO's 'Clearview' slider does an equivalent, and perhaps better job, IMHO that Lightroom's dehaze. (Adobe's 'Dehaze' is a clone of DXO's 'Clearview'). That's good to know. I'm totally happy with my Lightroom + Photoshop plan, but I appreciate competition, too.

10-30-2016, 11:10 PM	#12
acoufap Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Munich, Germany Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,191	Originally posted by rawr C1 v8 doesn't, and I am pretty sure neither does the current v9. If dehaze functionality is important to you,... I don't know what Lightroom dehaze delivers. Sounds like it could be similar C1's Clarity Tool. If you're interested in the philosophy and what C1 is all about you should read Sascha Erni's Book "Capture One PRO 9". You’ll be surprised what it can do and you'll understand that knowing internals and features of a complex software is hardly done by using it an hour or trial period. Reading some good literature about it, looking at video tutorials and sticking with a software to get really familiar with it helps. This aplies to C1 and every other choice

10-30-2016, 11:45 PM	#13
lithedreamer Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2013 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,799	Originally posted by acoufap I don't know what Lightroom dehaze delivers. Sounds like it could be similar C1's Clarity Tool. If you're interested in the philosophy and what C1 is all about you should read Sascha Erni's Book "Capture One PRO 9". You’ll be surprised what it can do and you'll understand that knowing internals and features of a complex software is hardly done by using it an hour or trial period. Reading some good literature about it, looking at video tutorials and sticking with a software to get really familiar with it helps. This aplies to C1 and every other choice C1's Clarity Tool sounds like Lightroom's Clarity Slider. Indeed, it sounds like they're incomparable: Phase One and Leaf-Mamiya Official User to User Forum ? View topic - Dehaze equivalent?

10-30-2016, 11:49 PM	#14
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Originally posted by acoufap I don't know what Lightroom dehaze delivers. Sounds like it could be similar C1's Clarity Tool. It's more like a combination of C1's Contrast, Clarity and Structure sliders, as others have discovered. In this area, C1 needs to do some catch-up with LR and DXO, since dehaze is a very handy capability to have packaged into one simple slider. (I've had C1 since v6).

10-31-2016, 12:10 AM	#15
acoufap Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Munich, Germany Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,191	Originally posted by rawr It's more like a combination of C1's Contrast, Clarity and Structure sliders, as others have discovered. In this area, C1 needs to do some catch-up with LR and DXO, since dehaze is a very handy capability to have packaged into one simple slider. (I've had C1 since v6). ok, maybe - I never missed such a function. Guess it's simply all about what we expect and how we use different tools in combination. Many roads lead to Rome guided by philosophy and perception.

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