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restlesssoul · 01-16-2017, 07:51 AM

I'd been putting it off for a while, but took the plunge before Christmas & ordered a K-1 with 28-05mm from B&H. Long story, but just received it on January 12th. Haven't had a chance to get out with it yet but on setting it up I was surprised to see that the Firmware was version 1.0. Not a big problem as downloaded & updated to 1.40, but can't shake a 'niggling thought' that B&H sent me old stock - or worse, a return. Anybody received one with updated firmware?

Kunzite · 01-16-2017, 08:07 AM

I think they're continuing shipping with the initial firmware - despite new versions being available - as a standard procedure. It if's updated, that's done by the dealer.

SteveD · 01-16-2017, 08:08 AM

Check the shot count. Use the tool on this site. I do no think they can alter that.

Winder · 01-16-2017, 08:32 AM

Originally posted by restlesssoul

I'd been putting it off for a while, but took the plunge before Christmas & ordered a K-1 with 28-05mm from B&H. Long story, but just received it on January 12th. Haven't had a chance to get out with it yet but on setting it up I was surprised to see that the Firmware was version 1.0. Not a big problem as downloaded & updated to 1.40, but can't shake a 'niggling thought' that B&H sent me old stock - or worse, a return. Anybody received one with updated firmware?

Not uncommon at all for manufacturers to ship version 1.00 firmware for the entire life of the product.

DrBop · 01-16-2017, 09:05 AM

Also purchased from B&H. Also was surprised to see the new camera without the current firmware. But I was delighted at how easy it was to upgrade the firmware to the current version.

If all K-1s ship with v1.0 firmware as SOP, it's probably simply to keep costs (and prices) to a minimum. If that is the case, It would be a nice touch for Ricoh to put a little sticker or slip sheet in the box or user manual to advise a new purchaser to check for a firmware update. And it would be virtually cost free.

Don

**jatrax** · 01-16-2017, 09:11 AM

All Pentax gear I have bought has had the initial firmware, even long after release.

**gaweidert** · 01-16-2017, 09:17 AM

Most software you purchase is the same way. Install it, register it and then check for updates. Not a big deal.

stevebrot · 01-16-2017, 09:37 AM

As noted above, it is not unusual for cameras to carry the initial firmware version. OTOH, it is also not unusual for firmware version to be current to the date of manufacture. If one wants to know if their Pentax camera is "stale", the date of manufacture is part of the makernotes section of the EXIF, readable by a variety of available tools.

It might be good to note that there is a small secret in cameraland, that being that the number of production runs for a particular model of camera or lens may be VERY limited. It is quite likely that all of the current stock of K-1 bodies on dealer shelves are from the initial run.

Steve

CDW · 01-16-2017, 09:50 AM

Almost any electronics item that employs software needs updating out of the box, whether TV sets, computer OS, cameras. Some 'smart TV' sets update automatically once connected to the internet. The Pentax procedure is easy and painless, assuming you don't have to wait while you put a full charge on the camera battery.

**shardulm** · 01-16-2017, 12:06 PM

My K1 came with the first cut too. It was far too buggy especially around showing previews of the shots take (SD card reads may be). They were very slow and did not always render and threw file read errors on the SD card (Sandisk 128GB U3 class 10 microsd) cards. I was about to return the SD card or the camera. But then I thought I need the FW upgrade any way.. so I did the upgrade (a piece of cake as long as you used a fully charged battery) and the issue with the SD cards disappeared. I was suspecting either the camera or the cards to be defective. Looks like the first cut firm ware had some bugs in it around the SD card image reads or did not support all the SD card I had.
Now it works as if nothing ever happened.

teiki arii · 01-16-2017, 02:10 PM

Originally posted by restlesssoul

Anybody received one with updated firmware?

When bought it in October, I had it with firmware 1.30 and switched it for 1.40...

pschlute · 01-16-2017, 03:24 PM

Originally posted by jatrax

All Pentax gear I have bought has had the initial firmware, even long after release.

Ditto, even my first, a MX !

**Sailor** · 01-16-2017, 03:45 PM

Originally posted by restlesssoul

I'd been putting it off for a while, but took the plunge before Christmas & ordered a K-1 with 28-05mm from B&H. Long story, but just received it on January 12th. Haven't had a chance to get out with it yet but on setting it up I was surprised to see that the Firmware was version 1.0. Not a big problem as downloaded & updated to 1.40, but can't shake a 'niggling thought' that B&H sent me old stock - or worse, a return. Anybody received one with updated firmware?

I bought the same package from B&H before Christmas (arrived on 12/19, IIRC) - mine has version 1.0, as well. I haven't gotten around to updating it yet.

Jer

**monochrome** · 01-16-2017, 08:29 PM

Where did you all find FW 1.4. I could only find 1.3 on the USA site (why am I not surprised?)

**clackers** · 01-16-2017, 10:28 PM

Originally posted by monochrome

Where did you all find FW 1.4. I could only find 1.3 on the USA site (why am I not surprised?)

It *says* 1.3, but that link takes you to 1.4.

01-16-2017, 07:51 AM	#1
restlesssoul Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Bermuda Posts: 41	K-1 Firmware as shipped I'd been putting it off for a while, but took the plunge before Christmas & ordered a K-1 with 28-05mm from B&H. Long story, but just received it on January 12th. Haven't had a chance to get out with it yet but on setting it up I was surprised to see that the Firmware was version 1.0. Not a big problem as downloaded & updated to 1.40, but can't shake a 'niggling thought' that B&H sent me old stock - or worse, a return. Anybody received one with updated firmware?

01-16-2017, 09:05 AM	#5
DrBop Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: on a trail, Bay Area, Northern California Photos: Gallery Posts: 35	My December K-1 also was 1.0 firmware Also purchased from B&H. Also was surprised to see the new camera without the current firmware. But I was delighted at how easy it was to upgrade the firmware to the current version. If all K-1s ship with v1.0 firmware as SOP, it's probably simply to keep costs (and prices) to a minimum. If that is the case, It would be a nice touch for Ricoh to put a little sticker or slip sheet in the box or user manual to advise a new purchaser to check for a firmware update. And it would be virtually cost free. Don

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01-16-2017, 08:07 AM	#2
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	I think they're continuing shipping with the initial firmware - despite new versions being available - as a standard procedure. It if's updated, that's done by the dealer.

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SteveD Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 112	Check the shot count. Use the tool on this site. I do no think they can alter that.

01-16-2017, 08:32 AM	#4
Winder Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 6,617	Originally posted by restlesssoul I'd been putting it off for a while, but took the plunge before Christmas & ordered a K-1 with 28-05mm from B&H. Long story, but just received it on January 12th. Haven't had a chance to get out with it yet but on setting it up I was surprised to see that the Firmware was version 1.0. Not a big problem as downloaded & updated to 1.40, but can't shake a 'niggling thought' that B&H sent me old stock - or worse, a return. Anybody received one with updated firmware? Not uncommon at all for manufacturers to ship version 1.00 firmware for the entire life of the product.

01-16-2017, 09:11 AM	#6
jatrax Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cascades Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,992	All Pentax gear I have bought has had the initial firmware, even long after release.

01-16-2017, 09:17 AM	#7
gaweidert Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Rochester, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,327	Most software you purchase is the same way. Install it, register it and then check for updates. Not a big deal.

01-16-2017, 09:37 AM	#8
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	As noted above, it is not unusual for cameras to carry the initial firmware version. OTOH, it is also not unusual for firmware version to be current to the date of manufacture. If one wants to know if their Pentax camera is "stale", the date of manufacture is part of the makernotes section of the EXIF, readable by a variety of available tools. It might be good to note that there is a small secret in cameraland, that being that the number of production runs for a particular model of camera or lens may be VERY limited. It is quite likely that all of the current stock of K-1 bodies on dealer shelves are from the initial run. Steve

01-16-2017, 09:50 AM	#9
CDW Site Supporter Join Date: May 2011 Location: Big Island, Hawaii & Utah Posts: 457	Almost any electronics item that employs software needs updating out of the box, whether TV sets, computer OS, cameras. Some 'smart TV' sets update automatically once connected to the internet. The Pentax procedure is easy and painless, assuming you don't have to wait while you put a full charge on the camera battery.

01-16-2017, 12:06 PM	#10
shardulm Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Cumming, GA Posts: 793	My K1 came with the first cut too. It was far too buggy especially around showing previews of the shots take (SD card reads may be). They were very slow and did not always render and threw file read errors on the SD card (Sandisk 128GB U3 class 10 microsd) cards. I was about to return the SD card or the camera. But then I thought I need the FW upgrade any way.. so I did the upgrade (a piece of cake as long as you used a fully charged battery) and the issue with the SD cards disappeared. I was suspecting either the camera or the cards to be defective. Looks like the first cut firm ware had some bugs in it around the SD card image reads or did not support all the SD card I had. Now it works as if nothing ever happened.

01-16-2017, 02:10 PM	#11
teiki arii Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 689	Originally posted by restlesssoul Anybody received one with updated firmware? When bought it in October, I had it with firmware 1.30 and switched it for 1.40...

01-16-2017, 03:24 PM	#12
pschlute Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Surrey, UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,219	Originally posted by jatrax All Pentax gear I have bought has had the initial firmware, even long after release. Ditto, even my first, a MX !

01-16-2017, 03:45 PM	#13
Sailor Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Coastal Texas Photos: Gallery Posts: 26,203	Originally posted by restlesssoul I'd been putting it off for a while, but took the plunge before Christmas & ordered a K-1 with 28-05mm from B&H. Long story, but just received it on January 12th. Haven't had a chance to get out with it yet but on setting it up I was surprised to see that the Firmware was version 1.0. Not a big problem as downloaded & updated to 1.40, but can't shake a 'niggling thought' that B&H sent me old stock - or worse, a return. Anybody received one with updated firmware? I bought the same package from B&H before Christmas (arrived on 12/19, IIRC) - mine has version 1.0, as well. I haven't gotten around to updating it yet. Jer

01-16-2017, 08:29 PM	#14
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Where did you all find FW 1.4. I could only find 1.3 on the USA site (why am I not surprised?)

01-16-2017, 10:28 PM	#15
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	Originally posted by monochrome Where did you all find FW 1.4. I could only find 1.3 on the USA site (why am I not surprised?) It says 1.3, but that link takes you to 1.4.

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