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02-16-2017, 07:32 PM   #1
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K-1 weight vs K-5 II

IR reports the K-1, with battery, weighs 35.8 oz while the K-5 II, with battery, comes in at 42.3 oz -- Does the K-5 II really weigh more than a K-1 ?!

For reference:
Pentax K-5 II Review
Pentax K-1 Review

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QuoteOriginally posted by mee Quote
IR reports the K-1, with battery, weighs 35.8 oz while the K-5 II, with battery, comes in at 42.3 oz -- Does the K-5 II really weigh more than a K-1 ?!

For reference:
Pentax K-5 II Review
Pentax K-1 Review
K-1 1010 gm w/ battery and SD cards.
K-5ll 740 gm w/ battery and SD card

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The Imaging Resource table of specifications indicates that the K-5 II includes the battery and the 'kit lens', while the K-1 includes battery only.
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K-5II should be 26.1 oz. The IR review states the weight includes the kit lens.

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Thanks, guys. That makes much more sense!
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And its obvious when you hold a K-1 that its significantly heavier than the K-5. But thats not necessarily a bad thing as the K-1 feels great to hold.
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And its obvious when you hold a K-1 that its significantly heavier than the K-5. But thats not necessarily a bad thing as the K-1 feels great to hold.
I just realized I have a large, accurate food scale.

As a result, I weighed my camera with the 16-50 and QR plate together. The total weight comes in really close to that of the K-1 and 28-105mm which isn't that bad imo. Nothing I'm not used to holding... especially since the K-1 seems to have a taller hand grip which would be excellent for bigger hands..
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QuoteOriginally posted by mee Quote
I just realized I have a large, accurate food scale.

As a result, I weighed my camera with the 16-50 and QR plate together. The total weight comes in really close to that of the K-1 and 28-105mm which isn't that bad imo. Nothing I'm not used to holding... especially since the K-1 seems to have a taller hand grip which would be excellent for bigger hands..
Absolutely - the taller grip is great! Its not that much taller really but it makes a big difference to comfort / feel.

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QuoteOriginally posted by mee Quote
I just realized I have a large, accurate food scale.

As a result, I weighed my camera with the 16-50 and QR plate together. The total weight comes in really close to that of the K-1 and 28-105mm which isn't that bad imo. Nothing I'm not used to holding... especially since the K-1 seems to have a taller hand grip which would be excellent for bigger hands..
Comparing the K-1 with 28-105 to the K-5 with 16-50:

The K-1 and 28-105 feels much better balanced than the K-5 and 16-50. The K-5 has a lot of weight in the lens so it wants to torque the camera out of my hand, the 28-105 shifts weight backwards to the camera body. The K-1 combo is smaller, too.

Sharpness is much improved. Many more megapixels, no AA filter, and a sharper lens. For on screen display it doesn't matter, but I can crop more and print larger with the K-1.

In low light they are around equal. Yes, the 28-105 can't reach f2.8, but the larger newer sensor in the K-1 surpasses the K-5's already great low noise performance.

The only spot where the K-5 combo has an edge is I get a little wider field of view. 28mm to 24mm equivalent (16*1.5 = 24) doesn't look like a big difference but I miss that extra wideness.
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Specs that I read were K-1, 2 lbs., and K-5IIS, 1.7 lbs. D-LI90 is the battery type used in both.

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QuoteOriginally posted by mee Quote
As a result, I weighed my camera with the 16-50 and QR plate together. The total weight comes in really close to that of the K-1 and 28-105mm which isn't that bad imo. Nothing I'm not used to holding... especially since the K-1 seems to have a taller hand grip which would be excellent for bigger hands..
That was exactly my calculations as well. The k-3 plus 16-50 versus the k-1 & 28-105. The difference is that the grip on the k-1 is so much better that the k-1 is actually easier to hold than the k-5 or k-3. At least for my hands, where the k-3 was just too small to fit my pinkie on.
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The K-1 is about 30% heavier, not counting lenses

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Absolutely - the taller grip is great! Its not that much taller really but it makes a big difference to comfort / feel.
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Comparing the K-1 with 28-105 to the K-5 with 16-50:

The K-1 and 28-105 feels much better balanced than the K-5 and 16-50. The K-5 has a lot of weight in the lens so it wants to torque the camera out of my hand, the 28-105 shifts weight backwards to the camera body. The K-1 combo is smaller, too.

Sharpness is much improved. Many more megapixels, no AA filter, and a sharper lens. For on screen display it doesn't matter, but I can crop more and print larger with the K-1.

In low light they are around equal. Yes, the 28-105 can't reach f2.8, but the larger newer sensor in the K-1 surpasses the K-5's already great low noise performance.

The only spot where the K-5 combo has an edge is I get a little wider field of view. 28mm to 24mm equivalent (16*1.5 = 24) doesn't look like a big difference but I miss that extra wideness.
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That was exactly my calculations as well. The k-3 plus 16-50 versus the k-1 & 28-105. The difference is that the grip on the k-1 is so much better that the k-1 is actually easier to hold than the k-5 or k-3. At least for my hands, where the k-3 was just too small to fit my pinkie on.
I have similar thoughts too. Esp with the grip and the pinky in free air. I also will miss the lens going down to 24mm (or 16mm on crop) as I often shoot on the wide end. Hoping for a wide prime to be announced next week. Or maybe even a wider zoom (doubtful but still would like).

Really a 24-120 f/4 type lens would have been perfect focal length wise. But the 28-105 seems like it will do otherwise.
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In my experience K-1 fits my hands much better than K-3 or K10D. I grip with both hands, left as a platform. The K-1 feels natural and I'm not really aware it is there, whereas with K-3 I always felt the awkwardness of gripping with three fingers. Consequently I can actually hold the K-1 longer without tiring than I could the K-3.

So far it doesn't seem to matter which lens. Even a K300/4 let's me balance comfortably with left hand under the focus ring. In this case additional mass and volume is a benefit.
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QuoteOriginally posted by mee Quote
35.8 oz ... 42.3 oz
QuoteOriginally posted by C_Jones Quote
2 lbs
All these archaic and inconsistent (UK vs US vs ?) measures ...
Luckily Wikipedia is there to help me figure out what they all might mean in grams.
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