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06-06-2017, 02:37 PM   #1
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My wife and I are going to Kenya next month for game drives in Masai Mara and a couple other spots. I know this question has been asked, but not specifically for FF. I have a K-1, 28-105, and DA*300. I'm thinking of renting a K-3ii and teleconverter for the 300 and keeping the zoom on the K-1. I also considered just renting a 150-450 or just bringing what I have.

Any recommendations or other thoughts? I don't love the idea of dual cameras, but I also want good coverage.

06-06-2017, 03:27 PM   #2
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I would rent the 150-450mm. Easier than carrying two bodies.
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My daughter returned from Masai Mara last week with several cards full of great images. You will likely get very, perhaps, uncomfortably close to your subjects. You will also be shooting from the top of relatively unstable and crowded vehicles. The environment is dusty and hot. You may find it difficult (or unadvisable) to change and maneuver large lenses. On the other hand, how often do you get to Masai Mara ... it might be better to carry stuff you don't use then wish you had not left the perfect lens at home.
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QuoteOriginally posted by BullsOnParade81 Quote
I would rent the 150-450mm. Easier than carrying two bodies.
I'd take two bodies anyway. If you take only one body and it fail - You got NOTHING.

The 150-450 and A K-3 II would seem to cover many bases.

I'd also suggest getting something wider than 28mm for the K-1. A manual focus 24mm, 20mm or maybe 15mm.

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QuoteOriginally posted by DennisH Quote
I don't love the idea of dual cameras
You should get over that idea pretty quickly. Just saying. If I was going on a free for all and had the funds to do it I would have a 16-85 or something like that and that 150-450.

In all these situations it always depends on you and what kind of images you want. If you want wildlife photos the longer the lens the better. I took a 70-200 out there in that same general area and it was ok but a longer lens would be better. For me 90% of my shots were done with a 16-85mm but that's just me. I wasn't taking a lot of wildlife shots. I wouldn't plan on doing a lot of lens swapping unless it's a dire emergency. It's really hot dry and dusty out there.
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I also think you should heed the advice for something wider than 28mm. I went out thinking I was going to shoot all these telephoto shots and came home with a fat stack of shots all at 16mm (on a crop sensor).
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I would rent the 150-450 and bring a compact, long-zoom camera as a backup. Heck, borrow one from a friend.

That way, if the K1 dies, you still get photos, but you don't have to carry around a full-size SLR body...

I did something like that on a trip to the UK 25 years ago... I took the Hasselblad and an IQZoom 60x...

-Eric
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If your designated goal is to shoot game on some days, the K-1 and 150-450 would most likely cover a lot of a drive type shoot, where you are not overly distanced from your subjects. If you feel the outing will require a bit more telephoto than that, the K-3II
and 150-450 would be your choice, but I still feel that you most likely could cover a majority of instances with the K-1/150-450. I use a Sigma 150-500 on my K-3II, and in some cases I don't go to 500 because I want a large enough field of view to track my subject or maintain some of its surroundings in an image.

The K-1 and your 28-105 would cover a lot of your other shooting, aside from your game outings. If you needed more wideness, you could look at something that is wider than the 28.

Have a nice trip.


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A bigma would be a good option 50-500 and os k3 and a fa 20 or 24 for landscapes with k1

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A bigma would be a good option 50-500 and os k3 and a fa 20 or 24 for landscapes with k1
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Forget DA*300 animal is always too far or too close and you can't get out of a vehicle.

Best option is 2 bodies, 2 lenses, no changing of lenses.K-1 with short zoom and crop body with long telephoto zoom.

Lightest option is crop body with telephoto zoom + teleconverter and a compact camera like Sony RX-100 or Panasonic LX-100 for close/landscape shots.
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I went to Africa last year and found that on the game drives it was too hard to change lenses. I used the 60-250 and the 150-450 on the K3 and K5. It enabled a quick change of viewpoint while bumping around in the vehicles. I took the 16-50 as well for general shooting when out of the vehicles. I wish I had the K1 with me, however it arrived in the post 2 days after I left for Africa ( A nice toy for when I returned home ). When I go next year I have already decided to use the 150-450 on the K3 for extended reach and take my 70-200 on the K1 for closer/larger animals. That way you don't need the teleconverter. Enjoy the trip, for me it was a fantastic experience that I am keen to return to.
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Did you guys never experience the great feeling of walking somewhere without a camera and enjoying the scenery... If K1 fails enjoy what you see and stop thinking about even more gear.
Photographers tend to experience their vacation looking at images afterwards. Without a camera you can experience scenery right away and keep pictures in your brain.
A failing camera is not the worst that can happen, I had 20 rolls of film stolen ones - no pictures, not even brain pictures survived...
K1 with 150-450 is one lens you want - you don't want to switch lenses unless necessary.
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I hope this info helps

things I learned from our 25th Wedding Anniversary trip to Tanzania last summer, just the two of us and a guide

1 take "photos" with your mind and store it in your brain first and look in all directions

2 then attempt to take photos with your camera ( s ), ask the driver to turn off the vehicle's engine prior to taking photos

3 I took numerous lenses but only used a K 5 II + Tamron 4-5.6 70 -300 macro zoom ld [1:2] af and a Nikon Coolpix P610. The animals ranged in distance from right along side the vehicle to way out there

4 I took several chargers and spare batteries as well as the battery grip for the K 5 II which allowed me to use AA batteries

5 I took a lap top and external hard drive and backed up my photos as much as possible

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FYI on my recent trip to Gran Tetons and Yellowstone National Parks, I took numerous lenses as well, my standard long set up was a K 3 + HD Pentax-D FA 150-450mm F4.5-5.6 ED DC AW, I had the HD Pentax-DA 1.4x AW AF Rear Converter as well and I had the K 5 II + HD Pentax-DA 16-85mm F3.5-5.6 ED DC WR ready as well.

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my suggestion is to rent whatever you think you want to take asap and try it out then decide on whether to rent it for the trip.

I have had good luck with LensRental.com from Tennessee and they also sell their " experienced " equipment

have fun

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