Miissing feature in K1

**hjoseph7** · 07-29-2017, 03:18 PM

I don't own a K1 "yet", but I heard that if you magnify the play back image you cannot scroll back to a previous image in a magnified state. For example on my K-5 II, I can magnify a playback image to 100% then scroll back and view a previous image which is also magnified at 100%. This comes in handy when you are pixel peeping, or comparing lenses to see what image is the sharpest. I read somewhere that the K1 cannot do this which would be a little disappointing.

Another feature which I wish all Pentax DSLR had is "Manual Exposure Locking" . I'm not talking about pressing the AEL button because that only lasts for 8 seconds or so, I'm talking about choosing an aperture and shutter speed in manual mode and locking that exposure until kingdom come. For example suppose I had to shoot a bunch of graduating high-school kids(or commercial items). Lets say about 600+ kids(commercial items) one after another. The setting is indoors and you are using two flash heads.

You would use your flash-meter to get the proper exposure adjust your flash heads, then you would want to keep that exposure until the end of the shoot. There is no way to do this with Pentax cameras as far as I know. Canon and I think Nikon have a feature which allows you to lock the manual exposure With Pentax cameras in Manual mode if someone sneezes the exposure changes, also there are plenty of chances to knock-off the set exposure while shooting. Not sure if I am right here ?

enoeske · 07-29-2017, 03:51 PM

The k-1 can do both of those. Zoom and change images works the same as always. Nothing changes in manual mode. You can also lock the camera so you don't accidentally change something

chunkiness · 07-29-2017, 03:52 PM

I don't have a K-1, but can't you lock your exposure settings by saving them as either U1 or U2 on the dial? Otherwise, the aperture, shutter speed, and ISO all stay set in "M" on my K-S2 unless I turn my dials - even after turning off the camera.

pschlute · 07-29-2017, 04:01 PM - **1 Like**

Question 1. Whoever told you that is mistaken. K1 works like any other Pentax i have owned. Take a number of pictures...review the latest in 100% view then scroll back through all your images. All will be 100% view.

Question 2. have you ever used manual mode ? It is called manual for a reason. You set the shutter speed and your set the aperture manually. Neither can possibly change unless you move the respective dials. If you are in danger of moving the dial by mistake then use the control lock button which will prevent you changing your settings.

To add to this...an explanation of how the AEL button works in manual mode. It does lock the exposure, but not in the way you were thinking. When the AEL button is pressed in manual mode any change you make to either shutter speed or aperture will be matched by the camera choosing a corresponding change to aperture or shutter speed. So your overall exposure will remain the same, but your shutter speed and aperture will have changed. This is obviously not what you want especially when using flash, so using the Control lock button is the way to go.

Last edited by pschlute; 07-29-2017 at 04:47 PM.

dave2k · 07-29-2017, 05:22 PM

Question 1: I am not able to review multiple pictures in zoom mode on my K-1 and I never have. I just reviewed the owner's manual and I did testing. I even experimented with various quick zoom settings in the menu but none of the settings produced the desired behavior. When I am in playback mode and I zoom in on a picture, the < and > buttons just move the zoomed portion of the picture right or left. I can see no way to go to the next picture in zoom mode without first exiting zoom mode. Perhaps I'm missing something, in which case I'll be happy to become enlightened.

**monochrome** · 07-29-2017, 05:28 PM

^^^ As far as I recall that's the way every Pentax I've ever owned has worked.

speagles2 · 07-29-2017, 05:34 PM - **2 Likes**

Have you tried: rear dial to zoom, front dial to scroll through pictures (keeping the current zoom setting)? That's how it works on the K30 and K3.

dave2k · 07-29-2017, 05:55 PM

That works! I'm enlightened. Thanks

Culture · 07-29-2017, 11:06 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by speagles2

Have you tried: rear dial to zoom, front dial to scroll through pictures (keeping the current zoom setting)? That's how it works on the K30 and K3.

Interesting to see this thread.
I stumbled on this feature by accident. My daughter who is 7 years just happened to be doing this whilst going though pictures on my K-30 two days ago.

I couldnt replicate it as I didnt now how she did it and she didnt know how either. Anyway thanks.

**hjoseph7** · 07-30-2017, 06:35 AM

Originally posted by pschlute

Question 1. Whoever told you that is mistaken. K1 works like any other Pentax i have owned. Take a number of pictures...review the latest in 100% view then scroll back through all your images. All will be 100% view.

Question 2. have you ever used manual mode ? It is called manual for a reason. You set the shutter speed and your set the aperture manually. Neither can possibly change unless you move the respective dials. If you are in danger of moving the dial by mistake then use the control lock button which will prevent you changing your settings.

To add to this...an explanation of how the AEL button works in manual mode. It does lock the exposure, but not in the way you were thinking. When the AEL button is pressed in manual mode any change you make to either shutter speed or aperture will be matched by the camera choosing a corresponding change to aperture or shutter speed. So your overall exposure will remain the same, but your shutter speed and aperture will have changed. This is obviously not what you want especially when using flash, so using the Control lock button is the way to go.

What control-lock are you talking about it is not on my K-5 II ?

pschlute · 07-30-2017, 06:41 AM

Originally posted by hjoseph7

What control-lock are you talking about it is not on my K-5 II ?

I am talking about the Lock button on the side of the K1. You can program yourself which controls you want disabled while the camera is locked.

**hjoseph7** · 07-30-2017, 10:49 AM

Originally posted by pschlute

I am talking about the Lock button on the side of the K1. You can program yourself which controls you want disabled while the camera is locked.

Thanks I didn't know that...

---------- Post added 07-30-17 at 12:54 PM ----------

Originally posted by dave2k

Question 1: I am not able to review multiple pictures in zoom mode on my K-1 and I never have. I just reviewed the owner's manual and I did testing. I even experimented with various quick zoom settings in the menu but none of the settings produced the desired behavior. When I am in playback mode and I zoom in on a picture, the < and > buttons just move the zoomed portion of the picture right or left. I can see no way to go to the next picture in zoom mode without first exiting zoom mode. Perhaps I'm missing something, in which case I'll be happy to become enlightened.

You have to use the quick dial in the front of the camera to move forward or backward. try that and get back to us.

dave2k · 07-30-2017, 12:50 PM

Originally posted by hjoseph7

Thanks I didn't know that...

---------- Post added 07-30-17 at 12:54 PM ----------

You have to use the quick dial in the front of the camera to move forward or backward. try that and get back to us.

Yes, this was stated above and I replied. Good to know this as it's one less frustration. Now if I could go to 1:1 crop mode from the menus rather than the top dial my life would be complete.

**jbinpg** · 07-30-2017, 10:50 PM

This statement makes no sense to me. If you have the feature dial on the K-1 set on Crop, then it is *much* easier to change framing from the 3rd dial than from the menus. You can easily see the framing guide change in the viewfinder. Likewise, if you are using the rear screen instead of the vf, you can see the framing mode change on the screen. Only if you have the feature dial set to another parameter would you need to change framing via the menus.

07-29-2017, 03:18 PM	#1
hjoseph7 Site Supporter Join Date: May 2014 Location: Minnesota Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,046	Miissing feature in K1 I don't own a K1 "yet", but I heard that if you magnify the play back image you cannot scroll back to a previous image in a magnified state. For example on my K-5 II, I can magnify a playback image to 100% then scroll back and view a previous image which is also magnified at 100%. This comes in handy when you are pixel peeping, or comparing lenses to see what image is the sharpest. I read somewhere that the K1 cannot do this which would be a little disappointing. Another feature which I wish all Pentax DSLR had is "Manual Exposure Locking" . I'm not talking about pressing the AEL button because that only lasts for 8 seconds or so, I'm talking about choosing an aperture and shutter speed in manual mode and locking that exposure until kingdom come. For example suppose I had to shoot a bunch of graduating high-school kids(or commercial items). Lets say about 600+ kids(commercial items) one after another. The setting is indoors and you are using two flash heads. You would use your flash-meter to get the proper exposure adjust your flash heads, then you would want to keep that exposure until the end of the shoot. There is no way to do this with Pentax cameras as far as I know. Canon and I think Nikon have a feature which allows you to lock the manual exposure With Pentax cameras in Manual mode if someone sneezes the exposure changes, also there are plenty of chances to knock-off the set exposure while shooting. Not sure if I am right here ?

07-29-2017, 05:22 PM	#5
dave2k Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Michigan Photos: Gallery Posts: 419	Not as stated Question 1: I am not able to review multiple pictures in zoom mode on my K-1 and I never have. I just reviewed the owner's manual and I did testing. I even experimented with various quick zoom settings in the menu but none of the settings produced the desired behavior. When I am in playback mode and I zoom in on a picture, the < and > buttons just move the zoomed portion of the picture right or left. I can see no way to go to the next picture in zoom mode without first exiting zoom mode. Perhaps I'm missing something, in which case I'll be happy to become enlightened.

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
To K1 or not K1 - that is the question?	interested_observer	Pentax K-1 & K-1 II	78	07-15-2017 03:58 PM
My K1 flashes aperture, speed and ISO settings - any K1 users confirm please?	pjaynz	Pentax K-1 & K-1 II	7	01-03-2017 12:57 PM
Shake Reduction Feature on my Pentax K100D Super Camera!	Tonytee	Troubleshooting and Beginner Help	35	05-24-2016 04:32 PM
Request feature: AF point select using a button on the body and one scroll dial	howieb101	Pentax K-1 & K-1 II	14	04-01-2016 02:20 AM
video showing weirdly fast zooming in Pentax K-r which feature is it?	anu l	Pentax K-r	1	12-10-2015 06:49 AM

07-29-2017, 03:51 PM	#2
enoeske Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Surprise, Az Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,136	The k-1 can do both of those. Zoom and change images works the same as always. Nothing changes in manual mode. You can also lock the camera so you don't accidentally change something

07-29-2017, 03:52 PM	#3
chunkiness Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Central California Posts: 164	I don't have a K-1, but can't you lock your exposure settings by saving them as either U1 or U2 on the dial? Otherwise, the aperture, shutter speed, and ISO all stay set in "M" on my K-S2 unless I turn my dials - even after turning off the camera.

07-29-2017, 04:01 PM - 1 Like	#4
pschlute Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Surrey, UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,198	Question 1. Whoever told you that is mistaken. K1 works like any other Pentax i have owned. Take a number of pictures...review the latest in 100% view then scroll back through all your images. All will be 100% view. Question 2. have you ever used manual mode ? It is called manual for a reason. You set the shutter speed and your set the aperture manually. Neither can possibly change unless you move the respective dials. If you are in danger of moving the dial by mistake then use the control lock button which will prevent you changing your settings. To add to this...an explanation of how the AEL button works in manual mode. It does lock the exposure, but not in the way you were thinking. When the AEL button is pressed in manual mode any change you make to either shutter speed or aperture will be matched by the camera choosing a corresponding change to aperture or shutter speed. So your overall exposure will remain the same, but your shutter speed and aperture will have changed. This is obviously not what you want especially when using flash, so using the Control lock button is the way to go. Last edited by pschlute; 07-29-2017 at 04:47 PM.

07-29-2017, 05:28 PM	#6
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	^^^ As far as I recall that's the way every Pentax I've ever owned has worked.

07-29-2017, 05:34 PM - 2 Likes	#7
speagles2 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 71	Have you tried: rear dial to zoom, front dial to scroll through pictures (keeping the current zoom setting)? That's how it works on the K30 and K3.

07-29-2017, 05:55 PM	#8
dave2k Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Michigan Photos: Gallery Posts: 419	That works! I'm enlightened. Thanks

07-29-2017, 11:06 PM - 1 Like	#9
Culture Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Vaasa Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 818	Originally posted by speagles2 Have you tried: rear dial to zoom, front dial to scroll through pictures (keeping the current zoom setting)? That's how it works on the K30 and K3. Interesting to see this thread. I stumbled on this feature by accident. My daughter who is 7 years just happened to be doing this whilst going though pictures on my K-30 two days ago. I couldnt replicate it as I didnt now how she did it and she didnt know how either. Anyway thanks.

07-30-2017, 06:35 AM	#10
hjoseph7 Site Supporter Join Date: May 2014 Location: Minnesota Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,046 Original Poster	Originally posted by pschlute Question 1. Whoever told you that is mistaken. K1 works like any other Pentax i have owned. Take a number of pictures...review the latest in 100% view then scroll back through all your images. All will be 100% view. Question 2. have you ever used manual mode ? It is called manual for a reason. You set the shutter speed and your set the aperture manually. Neither can possibly change unless you move the respective dials. If you are in danger of moving the dial by mistake then use the control lock button which will prevent you changing your settings. To add to this...an explanation of how the AEL button works in manual mode. It does lock the exposure, but not in the way you were thinking. When the AEL button is pressed in manual mode any change you make to either shutter speed or aperture will be matched by the camera choosing a corresponding change to aperture or shutter speed. So your overall exposure will remain the same, but your shutter speed and aperture will have changed. This is obviously not what you want especially when using flash, so using the Control lock button is the way to go. What control-lock are you talking about it is not on my K-5 II ?

07-30-2017, 06:41 AM	#11
pschlute Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Surrey, UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,198	Originally posted by hjoseph7 What control-lock are you talking about it is not on my K-5 II ? I am talking about the Lock button on the side of the K1. You can program yourself which controls you want disabled while the camera is locked.

07-30-2017, 10:49 AM	#12
hjoseph7 Site Supporter Join Date: May 2014 Location: Minnesota Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,046 Original Poster	Originally posted by pschlute I am talking about the Lock button on the side of the K1. You can program yourself which controls you want disabled while the camera is locked. Thanks I didn't know that... ---------- Post added 07-30-17 at 12:54 PM ---------- Originally posted by dave2k Question 1: I am not able to review multiple pictures in zoom mode on my K-1 and I never have. I just reviewed the owner's manual and I did testing. I even experimented with various quick zoom settings in the menu but none of the settings produced the desired behavior. When I am in playback mode and I zoom in on a picture, the < and > buttons just move the zoomed portion of the picture right or left. I can see no way to go to the next picture in zoom mode without first exiting zoom mode. Perhaps I'm missing something, in which case I'll be happy to become enlightened. You have to use the quick dial in the front of the camera to move forward or backward. try that and get back to us.

Thread Tools	Search this Thread
	Search this Thread: Advanced Search

07-30-2017, 12:50 PM	#13
dave2k Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Michigan Photos: Gallery Posts: 419	Originally posted by hjoseph7 Thanks I didn't know that... ---------- Post added 07-30-17 at 12:54 PM ---------- You have to use the quick dial in the front of the camera to move forward or backward. try that and get back to us. Yes, this was stated above and I replied. Good to know this as it's one less frustration. Now if I could go to 1:1 crop mode from the menus rather than the top dial my life would be complete.

07-30-2017, 10:50 PM	#14
jbinpg Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Prince George, BC Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,546	This statement makes no sense to me. If you have the feature dial on the K-1 set on Crop, then it is much easier to change framing from the 3rd dial than from the menus. You can easily see the framing guide change in the viewfinder. Likewise, if you are using the rear screen instead of the vf, you can see the framing mode change on the screen. Only if you have the feature dial set to another parameter would you need to change framing via the menus.