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09-01-2017, 05:04 AM   #16
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I always write to both cards so it does take longer to complete the write task. I always shoot RAW.

One other thing I have found with the K1. You can preview the image before it quits writing. If you want to delete it, then you must wait for the writing to stop. Otherwise you will wait a very long time for the image to delete. It is much faster to simply wait for the write function to stop before you delete any images. This is the reason for the complaints that some people have posted here about extraordinarily long delete times.

Just a function of the camera. Still a lot quicker than dropping off your film and waiting a week or so to see the results.

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I shoot only raw and write to one card using two 128gb Sandisk Extreme Pro cards and run into wait times just trying to view my picture ☹️
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QuoteOriginally posted by kjphilippona Quote
I shoot only raw and write to one card using two 128gb Sandisk Extreme Pro cards and run into wait times just trying to view my picture ☹️
Have you checked these settings? There shouldn't be a wait normally unless extra processing is going on.

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09-01-2017, 01:41 PM   #19
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Have you checked these settings? There shouldn't be a wait normally unless extra processing is going on.
All those setting are 0 or off, only highlight correction, shadow correction, NR & ISO NR are set to auto.

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Hummmmm, by any chance were you that bought my K1?

And yes, it is painful when the buffer fills, to me was most aggravating when I do race car events, I don't fill the buffer with one car, but do small bursts per car crossing me, the problem is the buffer many times didn't clear fast enough, plenty for 3 or 4 cars, but then the buffer would fill and the camera basically locks, it's manageable but can be a pain.
Hey, yes it's me!

Did you experience this issue as well? I have everyhing (skin tone, NR, distortion correction, etc...) turned off, still the camera takes a quite a while when doing multiple shots, be it bracketing or bursts...

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QuoteOriginally posted by gerax Quote
Hey, yes it's me!

Did you experience this issue as well? I have everyhing (skin tone, NR, distortion correction, etc...) turned off, still the camera takes a quite a while when doing multiple shots, be it bracketing or bursts...

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Hey Hope you are enjoying it

Yeah, having those things turned on, makes it worse, keeping them off helps, but it still isn't great, the best thing to do is managing the trigger, in some cases I would prefer going to aps-c mode, there it speeds up a lot, and if you are doing a job that needs to be cropped either way, might has well start cropped to begin with.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Nuno Almeida Quote
Hey Hope you are enjoying it

Yeah, having those things turned on, makes it worse, keeping them off helps, but it still isn't great, the best thing to do is managing the trigger, in some cases I would prefer going to aps-c mode, there it speeds up a lot, and if you are doing a job that needs to be cropped either way, might has well start cropped to begin with.
Why then buy an $1800 FF camera if you have to turn every option the camera offers off or shoot in JPG or crop mode ????? I took pictures at an air show a few months ago with my K-3 and used two 64gb Samsung Pro + cards, one raw and the other jpg. The camera would shoot and not slow down as long as I kept the shutter button down (1500) never missed a shot waiting for the buffer to clear!

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QuoteOriginally posted by kjphilippona Quote
All those setting are 0 or off, only highlight correction, shadow correction, NR & ISO NR are set to auto.
If you're shooting RAW, you don't really need to have these turned on, do you? I don't have a K1, but on my K5, highlight and shadow correction eat up the most processing power. I'd rather fix things in post when something's off.
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QuoteOriginally posted by kjphilippona Quote
Why then buy an $1800 FF camera if you have to turn every option the camera offers off
K-1 could probably be faster if they supported UHS-II (or CompactFlash cards - ugh), and added more + faster RAM in camera.

But as Imaging Resource said of the [36MP] A7R's performance:

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Buffer clearing times were a little slow, but not a surprise given the very large files.
FYI, as tested by IR:

Using SD cards:
K-1 RAW buffer: 17 frames, 31 seconds to clear
A7R RAW buffer: 15 frames, 13 seconds to clear

Using CompactFlash cards:
D800 RAW buffer: 18 frames, 12 seconds to clear
D810 RAW buffer: 23 frames, 10 seconds to clear

The K-1's relatively slow performance doesn't bother me much. You can work with it by burst shooting. Only once or twice have I missed a shot as a result of buffer clearing lags.

Also at some events the slow flash recycling time of my Metz has held me up far more than the K-1 buffer clearing time, so sometimes you have to think of the whole system.
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K-1 could probably be faster if they supported UHS-II (or CompactFlash cards - ugh), and added more + faster RAM in camera.
Around 10 seconds wait for the buffer to clear is slow but still acceptable. 30 second is a long time if you are in the middle of a shooting session. UHSII would be a good option while keeping the same buffer depth. If the amount of RAM would increase, XQD would be the only choice for 36Mpixels RAW. Fuji have chosen UHS II for the XT2 but XT2 is "only" 24Mpixels...

For shooting burst with the K1, typically a case of shooting spot in low light also imply using higher iso , meaning RAW isn't so useful anymore because of the loss of dynamic range and increase of pixel level noise. When shooting sport indoors with the K1, I use the manual mode, calibrate the white balance and exposure (it is very important to nail exposure when shooting JPEGs) for the ambient lighting and minimum shutter speed required to freeze motion (that usually doesn't change during the shooting session) and use in camera JPEG 22Mpixel, that usually average out the noise, and keep the SD card writing time significantly shorter. JPEG 22Mp is still very good for making prints (is the exposure and JPEG processing are set right before shooting), anyway sports cameras don't output more than 24Mp anyway.
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One of the main weakness of the K1 is the buffer cleaning time.
I've been in troubles a couple times due to this limitation while shooting concerts.
I was very afraid of this issue when shooting my first wedding but everything went fine as you have some downtime (short I agree) during wedding ceremony.

One of the main problem of this buffer issue is that even if you have 2 SD card slots, you can't really use the SD card backup mode as it's so slow you can't even take 6 or 7 pics without the camera going to a halt...
I was forced to use the RAW + JPEG (with jpegs files to almost minimum size) but I was scared to death about a SDCard issue, so I was using multiple smaller SD Cards changing them every 10-15 mins during the ceremonies.

Of course I turned off all in camera image enhancement as I shoot raw only, Still buffer is filled pretty quickly.
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As far as I know most of these settings are only applied for the jpg Engine.


The only limitation is the slow write speed of the camera. There is no possibility to change this, because of the limitations in the hardware. Any speculations about uhsxx or compact flash are simply stupid. The camera is on the market as it is, there is no hardware change possible. I'l hope that future models will have an improvement there.

At the moment, I think, I will skip the next generation, following the K-1, because everything I need is in. The only improvements I'm interested in, are higher ISO with less noise (above the excellent values of this camera) . I would like a 30 Mpix Sensor mit backlight technology and an improvement of two complete ISO-Steps. (concert photography in very dark arenas)
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I posted my respond elsewhere were this topic was also discussed. I was frustrated with why I could only shoot one image at a time until....Until I noticed this:
I thought I had continuous shooting set to H since the "H" icon showed as the default. However, when I checked my settings and went into change this setting, what I actually had set was the "L" function!!!!! No wonder it was at a crawl!!! After changing it to "H", I can now get at least 6 images before the buffer fills! YMMV as I haven't read this entire post to see if anyone suggested that you check this.
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I send my K1 in for service, the on / off / preview switch worked poorly.
They just adjusted it and did nothing else.
Then it worked well, but the writing time was long.
First, I looked at settings, found no changes.
I use 2 cards, RAW and Jpeg small, so I tried the other 95Mb / s for RAW.
No difference, the lamp is lit (write to card) maybe 20sec for 1 exposure.
Either I've missed something or try to updated from 1.41 to latest firmwere and if that not help that I can restore the camera.
Later I came to check the second card that only takes Jpeg small (which should not affect the writing time so much), and first there were files that has name like:% N); = /? `¤ # /" !.
Then the camera did not write to the 2 SD card.
Formatting and the problem solved.
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Another point of view is that the K1 is not meant to be a camera for all genres. As far as I can tell it is primarily designed to be a landscape camera, a job it does to perfection. If it is not capable of performing adequately for the use you are putting it to, maybe it's just not the right camera?
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