K1 MacBook Air Software

Dave B · 10-20-2017, 12:46 AM

Hi

Having just purchased a K1 and joined this forum, I am looking for software to assist in downloading images, organising and editing.

So Best free ?
Best paid for ?

All suggestions appreciated.

Thanks Dave

Adam · 10-20-2017, 01:01 AM

I'd say Lightroom would be the go-to solution if you're looking for something all-in-one.

You can of course use the software the camera came with (download it online & use this trick to install, but use S-SW140 instead), though it's not streamlined for workflow. The main advantage is that it can mirror any in-camera settings, so it's particularly good for editing files taken with pixel shift.

k5astro · 10-20-2017, 04:33 AM

I use the included "Photos". I think its the best for organizing and has some advanced editing tools if you turn them on. If I really want to edit a photo for something special like a portrait or scene, then I use Lightroom. I think it depends on how serious you are about post-production. If yes, then probably just go straight to Lightroom. I find Bridge rather useless. I think its really intended to "bridge" a gap in photoshop workflow.

SteveD · 10-20-2017, 06:24 AM

Not sure about the amount of cloud storage is sufficient but Adobe has released a new version of Lightroom CC with 1TB that works much more simply and combines phone tablet and computer. Apparently they pretty much always upload the original images to the cloud automatically so they are available right away to any device. There are now two Lightroom products. The new Lightroom CC which I just described and the older Lightroom Classic CC which works as it has been. It is a subscription service so you always have the most current app.

I think On1 has a competitive product

**sbh** · 10-20-2017, 02:23 PM

Iirc the dxo app is currently free as special offer but I can't remember the discussion where the link was posted.

The easiest solution would be the Potos app that comes with MacOS. I prefer to use Capture One. It's powerful and easy to use. But it doesn't support pixelshift, afaik only LR, Raw Therpy and DCU do so.

Dave B · 10-20-2017, 03:01 PM

Hi, I decided to go with DCU5 that came with my camera, we'll see how we go. I may try out Lightroom CC in the future it seems very popular and I also agree the Photo app on Mac is quite good. On a side note, much faffing about to get disc version of DCU5 onto machine with no disc drive

Thank you all for your replies.

tregubovav · 10-20-2017, 09:19 PM

I use SilkyPix Developers Studio for many years (starting from DS3).
It has intuitive interface and has a lot of settings for developing.

P.S.
DCU uses Silkypix engine (i don't sure what engine version is included to DCU5), but it have luck of control on development process.

SteveD · 10-22-2017, 05:59 AM

I am not sure I should have endorsed Lightroom. The brand new stuff is quite weird. My 20GB deal needs to be the 1TB deal to work. I bought the year long license deal through a special posted on this site at BH. I have about 10 months left. The Adobe web site told me to call when I tried using their upgrade for 25% offer for $14.95. I called and was told I should cancel my remaining 10 months. Yep just lose about $70 and then I would have no current subscription so I could not use the 25% and would have to pay $19.95.

So a 16 year loyal customer (Photoshop 6 from 2001) gets to pay the highest possible price for their new forced subscription. More than even new customers. This ON1 article spells out some of this but also leaves many questions. What Just Happened to Lightroom? – ON1, Inc. "There are many features lacking in the new Lightroom CC (HDR, pano, print to name a few)".

Matt K is a bit more optimistic sounding Lightroom CC Is Now Lightroom Classic (And a New Product is Born) - Matt K . Maybe the issue is that this really is intended to be a totally new product. So they kept the name for familiarity but do not mean to have previous customers benefit since they are trying to attract new cell phone customers. "That said, my guess is you probably know someone who is kind of interested in photography. And maybe they use their phone a lot. In that case, this may be great for them."

I asked them to email me a reasonable offer if they change their minds. I was expecting to get some credit for my remaining months and a price based on the $14.95 promo offer. Keep in mind that with my 1 year deal I can download the new Lightroom CC and use it but I only get 20GB storage. All full image files go there automatically. You can download them back to your machine but can't stop them going to the cloud. With a K1 I will use the 20GB in about 30 minutes. What you read about my upgrading is to try to get to the 1TB subscription so I can actually use what I have installed.

Will let you know if I hear anything. For now I uninstalled the non-classic version so I do not accidentally incur some over 20GB limit charge. By the way I have yet to find out what that might cost me.

normhead · 10-22-2017, 06:22 AM

I'm still using Aperture, but you probably can't. My layers editor is Pixelmator.

k5astro · 10-22-2017, 05:42 PM

Originally posted by SteveD

I am not sure I should have endorsed Lightroom

Me too, sort of. I own a non-subscription version (5.7.1) of Lightroom, but if I didn't, I wouldn't get a subscription license.

10-20-2017, 12:46 AM	#1
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10-20-2017, 01:01 AM	#2
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10-20-2017, 03:01 PM	#6
Dave B Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Central West AU Photos: Albums Posts: 258 Original Poster	Thanks Hi, I decided to go with DCU5 that came with my camera, we'll see how we go. I may try out Lightroom CC in the future it seems very popular and I also agree the Photo app on Mac is quite good. On a side note, much faffing about to get disc version of DCU5 onto machine with no disc drive Thank you all for your replies.

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10-20-2017, 04:33 AM	#3
k5astro Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Photos: Albums Posts: 387	I use the included "Photos". I think its the best for organizing and has some advanced editing tools if you turn them on. If I really want to edit a photo for something special like a portrait or scene, then I use Lightroom. I think it depends on how serious you are about post-production. If yes, then probably just go straight to Lightroom. I find Bridge rather useless. I think its really intended to "bridge" a gap in photoshop workflow.

10-20-2017, 06:24 AM	#4
SteveD Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 112	Not sure about the amount of cloud storage is sufficient but Adobe has released a new version of Lightroom CC with 1TB that works much more simply and combines phone tablet and computer. Apparently they pretty much always upload the original images to the cloud automatically so they are available right away to any device. There are now two Lightroom products. The new Lightroom CC which I just described and the older Lightroom Classic CC which works as it has been. It is a subscription service so you always have the most current app. I think On1 has a competitive product

10-20-2017, 02:23 PM	#5
sbh Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Black Forest, Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 849	Iirc the dxo app is currently free as special offer but I can't remember the discussion where the link was posted. The easiest solution would be the Potos app that comes with MacOS. I prefer to use Capture One. It's powerful and easy to use. But it doesn't support pixelshift, afaik only LR, Raw Therpy and DCU do so.

10-20-2017, 09:19 PM	#7
tregubovav Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Photos: Albums Posts: 41	I use SilkyPix Developers Studio for many years (starting from DS3). It has intuitive interface and has a lot of settings for developing. P.S. DCU uses Silkypix engine (i don't sure what engine version is included to DCU5), but it have luck of control on development process.

10-22-2017, 05:59 AM	#8
SteveD Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 112	I am not sure I should have endorsed Lightroom. The brand new stuff is quite weird. My 20GB deal needs to be the 1TB deal to work. I bought the year long license deal through a special posted on this site at BH. I have about 10 months left. The Adobe web site told me to call when I tried using their upgrade for 25% offer for $14.95. I called and was told I should cancel my remaining 10 months. Yep just lose about $70 and then I would have no current subscription so I could not use the 25% and would have to pay $19.95. So a 16 year loyal customer (Photoshop 6 from 2001) gets to pay the highest possible price for their new forced subscription. More than even new customers. This ON1 article spells out some of this but also leaves many questions. What Just Happened to Lightroom? – ON1, Inc. "There are many features lacking in the new Lightroom CC (HDR, pano, print to name a few)". Matt K is a bit more optimistic sounding Lightroom CC Is Now Lightroom Classic (And a New Product is Born) - Matt K . Maybe the issue is that this really is intended to be a totally new product. So they kept the name for familiarity but do not mean to have previous customers benefit since they are trying to attract new cell phone customers. "That said, my guess is you probably know someone who is kind of interested in photography. And maybe they use their phone a lot. In that case, this may be great for them." I asked them to email me a reasonable offer if they change their minds. I was expecting to get some credit for my remaining months and a price based on the $14.95 promo offer. Keep in mind that with my 1 year deal I can download the new Lightroom CC and use it but I only get 20GB storage. All full image files go there automatically. You can download them back to your machine but can't stop them going to the cloud. With a K1 I will use the 20GB in about 30 minutes. What you read about my upgrading is to try to get to the 1TB subscription so I can actually use what I have installed. Will let you know if I hear anything. For now I uninstalled the non-classic version so I do not accidentally incur some over 20GB limit charge. By the way I have yet to find out what that might cost me.

10-22-2017, 06:22 AM	#9
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	I'm still using Aperture, but you probably can't. My layers editor is Pixelmator.

10-22-2017, 05:42 PM	#10
k5astro Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Photos: Albums Posts: 387	Originally posted by SteveD I am not sure I should have endorsed Lightroom Me too, sort of. I own a non-subscription version (5.7.1) of Lightroom, but if I didn't, I wouldn't get a subscription license.