1.4X teleconverter

mborgare · 11-23-2017, 08:13 AM

Good morning,

I am new to this forum. I have been a Pentaxian since I was 15. I have came back to photography few years ago and now I am the happy owner of a K-1 camera.

I would like to ask if anybody knows if the 1.4x teleconverter does work with the K-1. I have asked the same question to the Pentax official help center and it looks like they have no idea. B&H expert says no. Anyone has some experience?

Thanks

Michele

Unregistered User · 11-23-2017, 08:16 AM

It work perfectly but with some lenses you will get some vignetting.

mborgare · 11-23-2017, 08:38 AM

Thanks!

normhead · 11-23-2017, 08:50 AM

Because of the vignetting, I try and use the F 1.7x AF adapter with the K-1 where possible. It actually works really well and if auto focus is important I'll use it even on a K-1, as long as I will have cropping room on the final image.

I wouldn't use it on an image like this where I use the whole frame. It might be OK, it might not. If you have other alternatives it's better not to take the chance.

K-1, Tamron SP AF 300mm 2.8 and F 1.7x AF adapter.

Unregistered User · 11-23-2017, 11:07 AM

To compare the F 1.7x AF adapter with the new 1.4x is kind of like comparing a T-Ford with a Ferrari when it comes to speed and usability. The new 1.4x gives you, for instance, full AF functionality, and full SR-functionality, i.e the correct focal length is displayed. It also gives you full weather sealing if you use a WR/AW-lens.

normhead · 11-23-2017, 11:47 AM

Originally posted by Tjompen1968

To compare the F 1.7x AF adapter with the new 1.4x is kind of like comparing a T-Ford with a Ferrari when it comes to speed and usability. The new 1.4x gives you, for instance, full AF functionality, and full SR-functionality, i.e the correct focal length is displayed. It also gives you full weather sealing if you use a WR/AW-lens.

Do you want the whole frame or don't you? The 1.4 doesn't always give you the whole frame and the vignetting can be severe. It works great on a K-3 though. I carry them both in my walking pack. They both have their place.

rawr · 11-23-2017, 12:03 PM

A note for DA 1.4 TC users: the TC also works well in the K-1's [16MP] crop mode ...

Adam · 11-23-2017, 12:29 PM

Originally posted by mborgare

Good morning,

I am new to this forum. I have been a Pentaxian since I was 15. I have came back to photography few years ago and now I am the happy owner of a K-1 camera.

I would like to ask if anybody knows if the 1.4x teleconverter does work with the K-1. I have asked the same question to the Pentax official help center and it looks like they have no idea. B&H expert says no. Anyone has some experience?

Thanks

Michele

The 1.4x converter is part of the DA series, which means it is only designed to cover the APS-C image circle. With some lenses it will cover the entire frame on the K-1 (I believe the DA* 200mm is one of them), but most won't. As others have pointed out, feature-wise it is compatible and it can certainly be used without any issues in crop mode.

**savoche** · 11-23-2017, 12:50 PM

It does vignette with the only two lenses I have where it makes sense to use it, the FA*300 and DFA100 Macro. It covers a more than just the APS-C frame, but I wouldn't buy it for use on the K-1. Hopefully Ricoh will decide to make a DFA TC at some point. Until then it's better to look for an older converter IMO, like the F Norm mentions.

Urs · 11-23-2017, 01:53 PM

Does the 1.4x HD Pentax-DA AF Rear Converter give much sharper results then the 1.7x F AF adapter ? lets say with the DA*300 on the K1? (regardless of of covering the hole frame in FF or of AF capabilities) Or is the difference in sharpness and contrast similar?

& Will both give better results in sharpness then using the bigma 50-500? Thanks in advance for any answer here.

normhead · 11-23-2017, 02:03 PM

They are both pretty sharp if you have a DA* quality lens or better. If you have older glass with a purple fringing problem, the F 1.7x obviously will magnify it more than the 1.4.

In my opinion the 1.7 on the 300 will be better than the 50-500 for IQ, but I don't own both so I can't give you a real comparison. Also, my favourite lens with the F 1.7x is the Tamron 300 because of it's really quick and easy one finger MF ring. With Pentax's quick shift lenses, using the F 1.7 is really awkward because of the clutch and long throw focus ring, as opposed to the very short throw of the Tamron.

Urs · 11-23-2017, 03:19 PM

Thanks for your answer, looking around for what lenses to use and or buy if I get the K-1.

I plan for the Irix 15mm and the Pentax WR 100mm macro ( instead of the FA 24-105) and I already have the FA 50mm 1.4, the DA*300 and the new 55-300mm. so for a 3 lens travel set the Irix, the 100mm and the 55-300 (even if only crop but its light and sharp) and for hikes the DA* plus the 1.7x and the Irix.

mborgare · 11-23-2017, 03:52 PM

Thanks to all for sharing your experience. It looks like that considering the price it maybe better to wait and see if Ricoh will come out with a dedicated teleconverter

Billk · 11-23-2017, 08:08 PM

I now have the K1 and the K3ii. If the teleconverter is going on, I just use the K3ii.

The K1 and DA 300mm are a beautiful combination BTW, if you can deal with less reach.

**tduell** · 11-23-2017, 09:41 PM

I use the Pentax HD DA AF rear converter 1.4x AW almost all the time with the DFA 150-450 on both the K-3 II and the K-1.
It does vignette a very small amount on the K-1, but I don't think I've ever had more than a couple of shots that didn't need to be cropped for one reason or or another, so I don't consider the vignetting an issue worth worrying about.

Cheers,
Terry

11-23-2017, 08:13 AM	#1
mborgare Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 61	1.4X teleconverter Good morning, I am new to this forum. I have been a Pentaxian since I was 15. I have came back to photography few years ago and now I am the happy owner of a K-1 camera. I would like to ask if anybody knows if the 1.4x teleconverter does work with the K-1. I have asked the same question to the Pentax official help center and it looks like they have no idea. B&H expert says no. Anyone has some experience? Thanks Michele

11-23-2017, 12:29 PM	#8
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11-23-2017, 08:16 AM	#2
Unregistered User Guest	It work perfectly but with some lenses you will get some vignetting.

11-23-2017, 08:38 AM	#3
mborgare Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 61 Original Poster	Thanks!

11-23-2017, 08:50 AM	#4
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Because of the vignetting, I try and use the F 1.7x AF adapter with the K-1 where possible. It actually works really well and if auto focus is important I'll use it even on a K-1, as long as I will have cropping room on the final image. I wouldn't use it on an image like this where I use the whole frame. It might be OK, it might not. If you have other alternatives it's better not to take the chance. K-1, Tamron SP AF 300mm 2.8 and F 1.7x AF adapter.

11-23-2017, 11:07 AM	#5
Unregistered User Guest	To compare the F 1.7x AF adapter with the new 1.4x is kind of like comparing a T-Ford with a Ferrari when it comes to speed and usability. The new 1.4x gives you, for instance, full AF functionality, and full SR-functionality, i.e the correct focal length is displayed. It also gives you full weather sealing if you use a WR/AW-lens.

11-23-2017, 11:47 AM	#6
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Originally posted by Tjompen1968 To compare the F 1.7x AF adapter with the new 1.4x is kind of like comparing a T-Ford with a Ferrari when it comes to speed and usability. The new 1.4x gives you, for instance, full AF functionality, and full SR-functionality, i.e the correct focal length is displayed. It also gives you full weather sealing if you use a WR/AW-lens. Do you want the whole frame or don't you? The 1.4 doesn't always give you the whole frame and the vignetting can be severe. It works great on a K-3 though. I carry them both in my walking pack. They both have their place.

11-23-2017, 12:03 PM	#7
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	A note for DA 1.4 TC users: the TC also works well in the K-1's [16MP] crop mode ...

11-23-2017, 12:50 PM	#9
savoche Master of the obvious Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Lowlands of Norway Posts: 18,311	It does vignette with the only two lenses I have where it makes sense to use it, the FA*300 and DFA100 Macro. It covers a more than just the APS-C frame, but I wouldn't buy it for use on the K-1. Hopefully Ricoh will decide to make a DFA TC at some point. Until then it's better to look for an older converter IMO, like the F Norm mentions.

11-23-2017, 01:53 PM	#10
Urs Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Panama Posts: 804	Does the 1.4x HD Pentax-DA AF Rear Converter give much sharper results then the 1.7x F AF adapter ? lets say with the DA*300 on the K1? (regardless of of covering the hole frame in FF or of AF capabilities) Or is the difference in sharpness and contrast similar? & Will both give better results in sharpness then using the bigma 50-500? Thanks in advance for any answer here.

11-23-2017, 02:03 PM	#11
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	They are both pretty sharp if you have a DA* quality lens or better. If you have older glass with a purple fringing problem, the F 1.7x obviously will magnify it more than the 1.4. In my opinion the 1.7 on the 300 will be better than the 50-500 for IQ, but I don't own both so I can't give you a real comparison. Also, my favourite lens with the F 1.7x is the Tamron 300 because of it's really quick and easy one finger MF ring. With Pentax's quick shift lenses, using the F 1.7 is really awkward because of the clutch and long throw focus ring, as opposed to the very short throw of the Tamron.

11-23-2017, 03:19 PM	#12
Urs Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Panama Posts: 804	Thanks for your answer, looking around for what lenses to use and or buy if I get the K-1. I plan for the Irix 15mm and the Pentax WR 100mm macro ( instead of the FA 24-105) and I already have the FA 50mm 1.4, the DA300 and the new 55-300mm. so for a 3 lens travel set the Irix, the 100mm and the 55-300 (even if only crop but its light and sharp) and for hikes the DA plus the 1.7x and the Irix.

11-23-2017, 03:52 PM	#13
mborgare Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 61 Original Poster	Thanks to all for sharing your experience. It looks like that considering the price it maybe better to wait and see if Ricoh will come out with a dedicated teleconverter

11-23-2017, 08:08 PM	#14
Billk Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Melbourne, Victoria Posts: 349	I now have the K1 and the K3ii. If the teleconverter is going on, I just use the K3ii. The K1 and DA 300mm are a beautiful combination BTW, if you can deal with less reach.

11-23-2017, 09:41 PM	#15
tduell Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: May 2015 Location: Melbourne Posts: 1,514	I use the Pentax HD DA AF rear converter 1.4x AW almost all the time with the DFA 150-450 on both the K-3 II and the K-1. It does vignette a very small amount on the K-1, but I don't think I've ever had more than a couple of shots that didn't need to be cropped for one reason or or another, so I don't consider the vignetting an issue worth worrying about. Cheers, Terry