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12-15-2017, 10:58 AM - 1 Like   #1
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live view and shutter shock

I remember reading the DPR review and they said they encountered some shutter shock while shooting in Live view. I don't know about everyone else, but for me it's the opposite. If I want to avoid shutter shock where it might show up (maybe 1/50 to 1/125) I switch to live view. No need for electronic shutter either (rolling shutter is a problem if hand holding, plus you lose IBIS).

I've been having fun lately using the K1 for hand held night shots around town. Usually around 1/15 or a little higher, iso 800 depending on f stop. And live view, kind of like walking around with a medium format tlr. Works well.

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I have never encountered shutter shock when handholding. Only when on a tripod, and then very lens dependent. ES in LV eliminates it completely.

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With my smaller FA primes, I have noticed a small effect that must be shutter shock with tests hand held in LV that go away when ES switched on (I leave ES switched on and seems to have no disadvantage). I now use LV more than I used to but on the plus side finding the tilting LCD display great for interesting compositions.

Also apparently some K-1s exhibit it more than others for some reason.
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With my smaller FA primes, I have noticed a small effect that must be shutter shock with tests hand held in LV that go away when ES switched on (I leave ES switched on and seems to have no disadvantage). I now use LV more than I used to but on the plus side finding the tilting LCD display great for interesting compositions.

Also apparently some K-1s exhibit it more than others for some reason.
Yeah, there are always so many variables it's hard to tease out any kind of pattern. From what I've read, most cameras have it, usually in the same shutter speed range. My GRll doesn't with its leaf shutter. Electronic shutter eliminates it, but when I use electronic shutter hand held I sometimes move the camera a little and get a tilting subject. On my Oly EM1 I used to think it had no shutter shock, and then when they released a firmware that allowed electronic 2nd curtain I realized it did, because photos were sharper. With the K1, with my own unreliable tests, I sometimes notice it handheld, usually from 1/50-1/125.

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QuoteOriginally posted by johnkrumm Quote
I remember reading the DPR review and they said they encountered some shutter shock while shooting in Live view. I don't know about everyone else, but for me it's the opposite. If I want to avoid shutter shock where it might show up (maybe 1/50 to 1/125) I switch to live view. No need for electronic shutter either (rolling shutter is a problem if hand holding, plus you lose IBIS).

I've been having fun lately using the K1 for hand held night shots around town. Usually around 1/15 or a little higher, iso 800 depending on f stop. And live view, kind of like walking around with a medium format tlr. Works well.
Using LV to avoid vibrations is a good call, since it eliminates the use of the mirror, which is the main culprit. I'm sure the shutter causes some vibrations as well, but in comparison they should be hard to discern.

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Using LV to avoid vibrations is a good call, since it eliminates the use of the mirror, which is the main culprit. I'm sure the shutter causes some vibrations as well, but in comparison they should be hard to discern.
I did extensive testing with my K-1 and various lenses Adam. In my experience at least, using MLU in either LV or viewfinder made no difference at all to the blur in the images when captured on a tripod with a long (footed) lens in the 1/60-1/200 range. Only when using ES in LV did the blur disappear.

For me at least it is shutter shock for sure caused by the leading curtain.
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QuoteOriginally posted by pschlute Quote
I did extensive testing with my K-1 and various lenses Adam. In my experience at least, using MLU in either LV or viewfinder made no difference at all to the blur in the images when captured on a tripod with a long (footed) lens in the 1/60-1/200 range. Only when using ES in LV did the blur disappear.

For me at least it is shutter shock for sure caused by the leading curtain.
Yeah thats been my experience too - MLU does not make a difference but ES in LV does. Hence why I say "it must be shutter shock".
That said the effect of shutter shock in the 1/60 - 1/200 range is not that much - its just that if you paid for 36MP of resolution you kind of expect to be able to access all of it. For action shots or shallow DOF shots (where sharpness is probably not perfect anyway due to lens being wide open), it doesn't really matter so much but for a nice detailed landscape (that you might want to print big or crop later) ES in the LV is a big help.
Would love to have it when using the OVF too!
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