Is it worthy buying the K-1 II having already the K-1?

alvaro_garcia · 02-27-2018, 01:25 PM

Do you think is it worthy? If you'd have the money, would you buy the Mark II as well and having both?

**jbinpg** · 02-27-2018, 01:27 PM

Yes. Gives me the opportunity to pass along one of my lesser cameras to my family members.

**jatrax** · 02-27-2018, 01:32 PM

I prefer to have two bodies, one FF and one APS-C. So, for me I see no need to buy the K-1 MKii in addition to my K-1. While the K-1 MKii does seem to have some good new features, nothing I have seen so far indicates it is something I would want to have in addition to the K-1.

Now I might sell the K-1 and buy the K-1 MKii or upgrade the K-1, but having both makes no sense to me. YMMV.

**gaweidert** · 02-27-2018, 01:54 PM - **2 Likes**

I just pre-ordered it yesterday. So yes for me. I still have a K3, K5 and K5-IIs. I need to start placing stuff in the marketplace.

**monochrome** · 02-27-2018, 02:00 PM - **5 Likes**

I’m keeping my K-1 for manual focus lenses and in case it is better for Astro or Macro. I pre-ordered the K-1ll for the autofocus improvement with FA Limiteds and the new zooms.

I’m selling KP and all my APSc lenses (plus some unused F and FA).

Maybe I’m nuts but I’m all-in FF.

ne! · 02-27-2018, 02:07 PM - **1 Like**

I found the Ricoh Mark II “special site” and there is a video with an example of its low-light performance at 12,800 ISO, it’s shocking so I’m upgrading my K-1.

Also, Ricoh says focusing on the new model is vastly superior to the original— I’ve never had an issue focusing my primes but I’ll take it nonetheless!

Adam · 02-27-2018, 02:17 PM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by alvaro_garcia

Do you think is it worthy? If you'd have the money, would you buy the Mark II as well and having both?

I'm upgrading my K-1. Can't say no to better low-light raws.

Adam
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**kmarceau** · 02-27-2018, 02:34 PM

Ne - what video?
Can you post a link to this video you found on the Ricoh Special site? (I can't find it anywhere)

Gimbal · 02-27-2018, 02:37 PM

No.
Maybe an upgrade to get the improved iso (the hopefully improved low iso, not the 8 billion iso). But first I need more info about the "accelerator" chip, what exactly is it it does? And real word comparisons between normal K1 and an upgraded K1. Then, if i'm impressed, I will go for the upgrade.

Paul the Sunman · 02-27-2018, 03:20 PM

Too early to tell. For my purposes, it looks like a minor upgrade at this stage. I would be happy to be proven wrong.

Dericali · 02-27-2018, 03:30 PM

I will wait until the AF is tested and compared with the current K1. If there is a measurable improvement then I would consider upgrade or buying it as a second camera and keeping the k1.

Fenwoodian · 02-27-2018, 03:52 PM - **4 Likes**

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I'm all full frame these days too.

I think having both a K1 and a K1ii makes a lot of sense (if you can afford it).

First, I'll be using my K1 for pixel shift tripod work, and K1ii for pixel shift handheld work.

Second, having both cameras will allow me to use one of them as a backup. I'm a big believer in having a back up camera with you at all times.

I also believe that a good photographer must master their equipment to the point where using it becomes instinctual - automatic - without thinking.

I don't fully master a new digital camera until I've shot at least 10,000 photos with it. Therefore, I always want a back up camera that's exactly the same as my main camera. If I'm not shooting the exact same back up camera, I find myself thinking too much about the technology/buttons/settings/displays and not singularly focusing on the composition/art.

That's why I'd never have an APS-C camera back up a full frame camera.

alvaro_garcia · 02-27-2018, 03:59 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by Fenwoodian

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I'm all full frame these days too. K1 for pixel shift tripod work, and K1ii for pixel shift handheld work.

I'm a big believer in having a back up camera with you at all times.

I also believe that a good photographer must master their equipment to the point where using it becomes instinctual - automatic - without thinking.

I don't fully master a new digital camera until I've shot at least 10,000 photos with it. Therefore, I always want a back up camera that's exactly the same as my main camera. If I'm not shooting the exact same back up camera, I find myself thinking too much about the technology/buttons/settings/displays and not singularly focusing on the composition/art.

That's why I'd never have an APS-C camera back up a full frame camera.

It makes much sense.

photoptimist · 02-27-2018, 04:01 PM

Is it worth it to you to have two cameras? (Do you depend on your camera for your livelihood and can't afford to be without a camera? Do you find yourself in situations where switching lenses is impossible or too onerous?)

If you already had the K-1ii, would you buy an old K-1 as backup?

If you only need one camera but want a K-1ii, a really excellent option is Ricoh's announced upgrade service (Ricoh announces an upgrade service for current PENTAX K-1 consumers) which will convert your K-1 into a K-1ii for $550.

texandrews · 02-27-2018, 04:53 PM - **1 Like**

No, for me. But that's because my best camera is my Z, with the K1 as a backup. I'd already determined that it wasn't worth upgrading....UNTIL I saw the $550 offer to send in your old K1 for a refresh. THAT I will do, barring some bad news about the upgrade and/or K1II.

That said---I think people are being overly optimistic about the AF improvements, the DPS, and maybe even the better iso performance. It looks like the better iso performance may be real, at least maybe 1-1.5 stop improvement. If it's 2 I'll be thrilled. AF is not very important to me, the K1 works well enough for what I do (in side by side shooting I thought it was as good as the 5DmkIV in low light, non-movement situations). I have yet to use pixel shift, even though it is tailor made for what I do, so we'll see about DPS.

02-27-2018, 01:25 PM	#1
alvaro_garcia Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Posts: 185	Is it worthy buying the K-1 II having already the K-1? Do you think is it worthy? If you'd have the money, would you buy the Mark II as well and having both?

02-27-2018, 02:00 PM - 5 Likes	#5
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	I’m keeping my K-1 for manual focus lenses and in case it is better for Astro or Macro. I pre-ordered the K-1ll for the autofocus improvement with FA Limiteds and the new zooms. I’m selling KP and all my APSc lenses (plus some unused F and FA). Maybe I’m nuts but I’m all-in FF. Last edited by monochrome; 02-27-2018 at 02:52 PM.

02-27-2018, 02:34 PM	#8
kmarceau Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: New England Posts: 71	What video Ne - what video? Can you post a link to this video you found on the Ricoh Special site? (I can't find it anywhere)

02-27-2018, 03:52 PM - 4 Likes	#12
Fenwoodian Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,875	. I'm all full frame these days too. I think having both a K1 and a K1ii makes a lot of sense (if you can afford it). First, I'll be using my K1 for pixel shift tripod work, and K1ii for pixel shift handheld work. Second, having both cameras will allow me to use one of them as a backup. I'm a big believer in having a back up camera with you at all times. I also believe that a good photographer must master their equipment to the point where using it becomes instinctual - automatic - without thinking. I don't fully master a new digital camera until I've shot at least 10,000 photos with it. Therefore, I always want a back up camera that's exactly the same as my main camera. If I'm not shooting the exact same back up camera, I find myself thinking too much about the technology/buttons/settings/displays and not singularly focusing on the composition/art. That's why I'd never have an APS-C camera back up a full frame camera. Last edited by Fenwoodian; 02-27-2018 at 03:59 PM.

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02-27-2018, 01:27 PM	#2
jbinpg Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Prince George, BC Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,546	Yes. Gives me the opportunity to pass along one of my lesser cameras to my family members.

02-27-2018, 01:32 PM	#3
jatrax Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cascades Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,991	I prefer to have two bodies, one FF and one APS-C. So, for me I see no need to buy the K-1 MKii in addition to my K-1. While the K-1 MKii does seem to have some good new features, nothing I have seen so far indicates it is something I would want to have in addition to the K-1. Now I might sell the K-1 and buy the K-1 MKii or upgrade the K-1, but having both makes no sense to me. YMMV.

02-27-2018, 01:54 PM - 2 Likes	#4
gaweidert Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Rochester, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,325	I just pre-ordered it yesterday. So yes for me. I still have a K3, K5 and K5-IIs. I need to start placing stuff in the marketplace.

02-27-2018, 02:07 PM - 1 Like	#6
ne! Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Posts: 57	I found the Ricoh Mark II “special site” and there is a video with an example of its low-light performance at 12,800 ISO, it’s shocking so I’m upgrading my K-1. Also, Ricoh says focusing on the new model is vastly superior to the original— I’ve never had an issue focusing my primes but I’ll take it nonetheless!

02-27-2018, 02:17 PM - 3 Likes	#7
Adam Administrator Site Webmaster Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Arizona Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 51,597	Originally posted by alvaro_garcia Do you think is it worthy? If you'd have the money, would you buy the Mark II as well and having both? I'm upgrading my K-1. Can't say no to better low-light raws. Adam PentaxForums.com Webmaster (Site Usage Guide \| Site Help \| My Photography) PentaxForums.com server and development costs are user-supported. You can help cover these costs by donating or purchasing one of our Pentax eBooks. Or, buy your photo gear from our affiliates, Adorama, B&H Photo, KEH, or Topaz Labs, and get FREE Marketplace access - click here to see how! Trusted Pentax retailers:

02-27-2018, 02:37 PM	#9
Gimbal Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 2,106	No. Maybe an upgrade to get the improved iso (the hopefully improved low iso, not the 8 billion iso). But first I need more info about the "accelerator" chip, what exactly is it it does? And real word comparisons between normal K1 and an upgraded K1. Then, if i'm impressed, I will go for the upgrade.

02-27-2018, 03:20 PM	#10
Paul the Sunman Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Melbourne Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,846	Too early to tell. For my purposes, it looks like a minor upgrade at this stage. I would be happy to be proven wrong.

02-27-2018, 03:30 PM	#11
Dericali Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Berlin Posts: 298	I will wait until the AF is tested and compared with the current K1. If there is a measurable improvement then I would consider upgrade or buying it as a second camera and keeping the k1.

02-27-2018, 03:59 PM - 2 Likes	#13
alvaro_garcia Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Posts: 185 Original Poster	Originally posted by Fenwoodian . I'm all full frame these days too. K1 for pixel shift tripod work, and K1ii for pixel shift handheld work. I'm a big believer in having a back up camera with you at all times. I also believe that a good photographer must master their equipment to the point where using it becomes instinctual - automatic - without thinking. I don't fully master a new digital camera until I've shot at least 10,000 photos with it. Therefore, I always want a back up camera that's exactly the same as my main camera. If I'm not shooting the exact same back up camera, I find myself thinking too much about the technology/buttons/settings/displays and not singularly focusing on the composition/art. That's why I'd never have an APS-C camera back up a full frame camera. It makes much sense.

02-27-2018, 04:01 PM	#14
photoptimist Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2016 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,127	Is it worth it to you to have two cameras? (Do you depend on your camera for your livelihood and can't afford to be without a camera? Do you find yourself in situations where switching lenses is impossible or too onerous?) If you already had the K-1ii, would you buy an old K-1 as backup? If you only need one camera but want a K-1ii, a really excellent option is Ricoh's announced upgrade service (Ricoh announces an upgrade service for current PENTAX K-1 consumers) which will convert your K-1 into a K-1ii for $550.

02-27-2018, 04:53 PM - 1 Like	#15
texandrews Moderator Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Baltimore Photos: Albums Posts: 3,394	No, for me. But that's because my best camera is my Z, with the K1 as a backup. I'd already determined that it wasn't worth upgrading....UNTIL I saw the $550 offer to send in your old K1 for a refresh. THAT I will do, barring some bad news about the upgrade and/or K1II. That said---I think people are being overly optimistic about the AF improvements, the DPS, and maybe even the better iso performance. It looks like the better iso performance may be real, at least maybe 1-1.5 stop improvement. If it's 2 I'll be thrilled. AF is not very important to me, the K1 works well enough for what I do (in side by side shooting I thought it was as good as the 5DmkIV in low light, non-movement situations). I have yet to use pixel shift, even though it is tailor made for what I do, so we'll see about DPS.