Does anyone know if K-1 will get any more firmware updates?

awscreo · 06-10-2018, 08:48 AM

As title suggests, curious if K-1 will get more updates, or that's pretty much it for this model, and focus is shifted to K-1 II?

We haven't received any updates in a while, I was kind of hoping some of that K-1 II af improvement would come our way via firmware

**monochrome** · 06-10-2018, 09:06 AM

I suspect no one who is free to post here knows the answer to your question.

lytrytyr · 06-10-2018, 09:13 AM

I would expect the usual updates to accommodate new lenses,
and of course to "improve stability for general performance."

**BigMackCam** · 06-10-2018, 09:14 AM - **1 Like**

Whilst I have no inside information, I suspect that any K-1II-related improvements will only be available by upgrading the K-1 to a "II" via the new board.

I can't see any commercial sense for Ricoh / Pentax to bring the original K-1 even closer to the K-1II in capabilities without owners paying for that official upgrade. There have to be compelling reasons to buy a K-1II, or to have the K-1 upgraded. They need to make the new model desirable for it to be profitable.

If there are stability issues with the K-1, or support for new lenses required, it may be that there'll be a future update to address those... but seeing as the camera is now two years old, I doubt there'll be anything more than that coming.

**Zygonyx** · 06-10-2018, 09:58 AM

Originally posted by lytrytyr

I would expect the usual updates to accommodate new lenses,
and of course to "improve stability for general performance."

Me too, but nothing else unless "potentially helping sales" of other devices.

stevebrot · 06-10-2018, 10:05 AM - **2 Likes**

I would only expect additional updates for fixes and/or release of new lenses, flash, or other accessories that require firmware support.

It is at this point that I will anticipate the inevitable and add that someone will most certainly post something about certain mirrorless camera makers issuing firmware releases with wonderful new features on a regular basis and that should be a a reasonable business model for Ricoh. The standard answer will follow that Ricoh seldom adds features on a firmware release unless they are product-linked.

Steve

awscreo · 06-10-2018, 10:41 AM

Welp, too bad. I guess that mechanical video stabilization is not coming, neither does a whole list of small tweaks that came from the poll that was going around here.

**Kerrowdown** · 06-10-2018, 10:45 AM - **4 Likes**

Originally posted by awscreo

Does anyone know if K-1 will get any more firmware updates?

I'm pleased to report mine are working away just fine as is.

stevebrot · 06-10-2018, 10:52 AM

Originally posted by awscreo

Welp, too bad. I guess that mechanical video stabilization is not coming, neither does a whole list of small tweaks that came from the poll that was going around here.

Both would be a reasonable conclusions. FWIW, Ricoh does not monitor this site and pleas for features expressed in the forums may or may not reach their ears (probably never). A single exception would be posts to the Product Suggestions and Feedback forum. The suggestions posted there are compiled by forum staff and sent on to Ricoh through some sort of secret back channel.

Steve

biz-engineer · 06-10-2018, 10:58 AM

I'm using firmware version 1.43, so far so good, it is stable. Mechanical sensor stabilization the Pentax K5 series had it but it added some noise to the sound of the video recording and it also drained battery power, so, for those two valid reasons Ricoh replaced the mechanical stabilization by software, which is just fine.

**UncleVanya** · 06-10-2018, 12:56 PM

Originally posted by stevebrot

Both would be a reasonable conclusions. FWIW, Ricoh does not monitor this site and pleas for features expressed in the forums may or may not reach their ears (probably never). A single exception would be posts to the Product Suggestions and Feedback forum. The suggestions posted there are compiled by forum staff and sent on to Ricoh through some sort of secret back channel.

Steve

Are we sure? At one time a person was claiming to be the social media point person for them and came in to the forum but I think quickly retreated overwhelmed. Perhaps they came back in stealth mode.

stevebrot · 06-10-2018, 01:12 PM

Originally posted by UncleVanya

Are we sure? At one time a person was claiming to be the social media point person for them and came in to the forum

I remember that. The representative simply disappeared after a few weeks.

Steve

Not a Number · 06-10-2018, 01:15 PM

Originally posted by awscreo

Welp, too bad. I guess that mechanical video stabilization is not coming, neither does a whole list of small tweaks that came from the poll that was going around here.

Ricoh apologized in one of the interviews that they were unable to do the video stabilization.

**BigMackCam** · 06-10-2018, 01:26 PM

Originally posted by UncleVanya

Are we sure? At one time a person was claiming to be the social media point person for them and came in to the forum but I think quickly retreated overwhelmed. Perhaps they came back in stealth mode.

Originally posted by stevebrot

I remember that. The representative simply disappeared after a few weeks.

Adam's last post on that subject was HERE...

richandfleur · 06-10-2018, 01:29 PM

Pentax isn’t really known for supporting older hardware with new features.

The likes of Fuji have made a name for this, and it really does install confidence thay they’re looking out for you, well beyond that initial sale period when they iron out the firmware bugs.

06-10-2018, 08:48 AM	#1
awscreo Pentaxian Join Date: May 2016 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,362	Does anyone know if K-1 will get any more firmware updates? As title suggests, curious if K-1 will get more updates, or that's pretty much it for this model, and focus is shifted to K-1 II? We haven't received any updates in a while, I was kind of hoping some of that K-1 II af improvement would come our way via firmware

06-10-2018, 09:58 AM	#5
Zygonyx Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ile de France Posts: 3,586	Originally posted by lytrytyr I would expect the usual updates to accommodate new lenses, and of course to "improve stability for general performance." Me too, but nothing else unless "potentially helping sales" of other devices. Last edited by Zygonyx; 06-10-2018 at 10:33 AM.

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06-10-2018, 09:06 AM	#2
monochrome Ooh! Shiney! Me Want! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,079	I suspect no one who is free to post here knows the answer to your question.

06-10-2018, 09:13 AM	#3
lytrytyr Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2011 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,063	I would expect the usual updates to accommodate new lenses, and of course to "improve stability for general performance."

06-10-2018, 09:14 AM - 1 Like	#4
BigMackCam Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North-East of England Posts: 14,925	Whilst I have no inside information, I suspect that any K-1II-related improvements will only be available by upgrading the K-1 to a "II" via the new board. I can't see any commercial sense for Ricoh / Pentax to bring the original K-1 even closer to the K-1II in capabilities without owners paying for that official upgrade. There have to be compelling reasons to buy a K-1II, or to have the K-1 upgraded. They need to make the new model desirable for it to be profitable. If there are stability issues with the K-1, or support for new lenses required, it may be that there'll be a future update to address those... but seeing as the camera is now two years old, I doubt there'll be anything more than that coming.

06-10-2018, 10:05 AM - 2 Likes	#6
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 36,210	I would only expect additional updates for fixes and/or release of new lenses, flash, or other accessories that require firmware support. It is at this point that I will anticipate the inevitable and add that someone will most certainly post something about certain mirrorless camera makers issuing firmware releases with wonderful new features on a regular basis and that should be a a reasonable business model for Ricoh. The standard answer will follow that Ricoh seldom adds features on a firmware release unless they are product-linked. Steve

06-10-2018, 10:41 AM	#7
awscreo Pentaxian Join Date: May 2016 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,362 Original Poster	Welp, too bad. I guess that mechanical video stabilization is not coming, neither does a whole list of small tweaks that came from the poll that was going around here.

06-10-2018, 10:45 AM - 4 Likes	#8
Kerrowdown PEG Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Hielands o' Scootlund Photos: Gallery Posts: 49,195	Originally posted by awscreo Does anyone know if K-1 will get any more firmware updates? I'm pleased to report mine are working away just fine as is.

06-10-2018, 10:52 AM	#9
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 36,210	Originally posted by awscreo Welp, too bad. I guess that mechanical video stabilization is not coming, neither does a whole list of small tweaks that came from the poll that was going around here. Both would be a reasonable conclusions. FWIW, Ricoh does not monitor this site and pleas for features expressed in the forums may or may not reach their ears (probably never). A single exception would be posts to the Product Suggestions and Feedback forum. The suggestions posted there are compiled by forum staff and sent on to Ricoh through some sort of secret back channel. Steve

06-10-2018, 10:58 AM	#10
biz-engineer Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 7,914	I'm using firmware version 1.43, so far so good, it is stable. Mechanical sensor stabilization the Pentax K5 series had it but it added some noise to the sound of the video recording and it also drained battery power, so, for those two valid reasons Ricoh replaced the mechanical stabilization by software, which is just fine.

06-10-2018, 12:56 PM	#11
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 16,537	Originally posted by stevebrot Both would be a reasonable conclusions. FWIW, Ricoh does not monitor this site and pleas for features expressed in the forums may or may not reach their ears (probably never). A single exception would be posts to the Product Suggestions and Feedback forum. The suggestions posted there are compiled by forum staff and sent on to Ricoh through some sort of secret back channel. Steve Are we sure? At one time a person was claiming to be the social media point person for them and came in to the forum but I think quickly retreated overwhelmed. Perhaps they came back in stealth mode.

06-10-2018, 01:12 PM	#12
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 36,210	Originally posted by UncleVanya Are we sure? At one time a person was claiming to be the social media point person for them and came in to the forum I remember that. The representative simply disappeared after a few weeks. Steve

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06-10-2018, 01:15 PM	#13
Not a Number Moderator Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Venice, CA Posts: 6,995	Originally posted by awscreo Welp, too bad. I guess that mechanical video stabilization is not coming, neither does a whole list of small tweaks that came from the poll that was going around here. Ricoh apologized in one of the interviews that they were unable to do the video stabilization.

06-10-2018, 01:26 PM	#14
BigMackCam Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North-East of England Posts: 14,925	Originally posted by UncleVanya Are we sure? At one time a person was claiming to be the social media point person for them and came in to the forum but I think quickly retreated overwhelmed. Perhaps they came back in stealth mode. Originally posted by stevebrot I remember that. The representative simply disappeared after a few weeks. Adam's last post on that subject was HERE...

06-10-2018, 01:29 PM	#15
richandfleur Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Palmerston North, New Zealand Photos: Albums Posts: 1,684	Pentax isn’t really known for supporting older hardware with new features. The likes of Fuji have made a name for this, and it really does install confidence thay they’re looking out for you, well beyond that initial sale period when they iron out the firmware bugs.