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**Rondec** · 06-14-2018, 02:52 AM

As others have said, they are just different cameras. Tons of different components and therefore it is hard to say why the K-1 weighs a tiny fraction more. Image stabilization certainly could be it, but truthfully the shutter mechanisms, chassis, and everything else about the cameras is different. It is more surprising that they are so close in size than that the Pentax is a tiny bit heavier.

On a brighter note, I have found that if I empty the change out of my pockets before I pick up my K-1, I have found that my overall body mass is less than if I was holding a D850 -- particularly when I have the FA 31 or FA 77 mounted.

(It is silly to consider the weight of a camera without a lens).

reh321 · 06-14-2018, 03:32 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by peterh337

This thread is surely a windup

5 grams is less than irrelevant!

It is totally irrelevant - and we wouldn't be talking about it if reviewers hadn't noticed and used it as a negative.

**ffking** · 06-14-2018, 03:53 AM

I think a lot of it come down to psychology - we have a ball park expectation that bigger things are heavier than smaller things - so a D850 feels light for its size and therefore light and a K-1 feels heavy for its size, therefore heavy - it doesn't explain why people complain about the size of the K-1 (other than comparing with previous Pentax DSLRs or just wanting to find something to complain about), but I think it accounts for the weight issue to some extent

Bert J · 06-14-2018, 04:51 AM

Originally posted by stevebrot

What is with all this of topic stuff about biased reviewers? I thought the question was speculation about why the K-1 weighs just a smidgeon more than a competitor's product that none of us can or want to afford. A few words come to mind..."Get" "over" "it".

Steve

Um...I want to afford the D850.

SIGH

reh321 · 06-14-2018, 05:28 AM

Originally posted by Bert J

Um...I want to afford the D850.

SIGH

If you look at DxOMark scores, the K-1 tests nearly as well as the D850 at a fraction the cost!!

Sandy Hancock · 06-14-2018, 05:42 AM - **4 Likes**

This popcorn tastes good....

**ffking** · 06-14-2018, 06:04 AM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by Bert J

Um...I want to afford the D850.

Me too - if I could afford the D850, then I could buy a couple more top notch Pentax lenses

**Mallee Boy** · 06-14-2018, 06:30 AM

Originally posted by Sandy Hancock

This popcorn tastes good....

Johnnys....the caramel coated stuff ?

stevebrot · 06-14-2018, 08:05 AM

Originally posted by Bert J

Um...I want to afford the D850.

SIGH

Welcome to the Pentax Forums and thank you for first post. I'm sure it will stir some interesting discussion.

Steve

(Cost per ounce...Pentax vs. Nikon...vs. top sirloin...)

(...where are you folk getting the popcorn?)

swanlefitte · 06-14-2018, 08:06 AM

5 grams is huge. If it were botulinum thats enough to kill 50 million people.
"Botulinum toxin
Scientists differ about the relative toxicities of substances, but they seem to agree that botulinum toxin, produced by anaerobic bacteria, is the most toxic substance known. Its LD50 is tiny – at most 1 nanogram per kilogram can kill a human. Extrapolating from its effect on mice, an intravenous dose of just 10-7g would be fatal to a 70kg person"
So there. We can end this discussion. Our beloved K1 is dangerous heavy!

stevebrot · 06-14-2018, 08:08 AM

Originally posted by reh321

It is totally irrelevant - and we wouldn't be talking about it if reviewers hadn't noticed and used it as a negative.

Yep...it is all about the review, the secret sauce in the lives of all true Pentaxians.

Steve

stevebrot · 06-14-2018, 08:10 AM

Originally posted by reh321

If you look at DxOMark scores, the K-1 tests nearly as well as the D850 at a fraction the cost!!

Yep! And that other Web sites reviewers panned the AF on both cameras!

Steve

LensBeginner · 06-14-2018, 10:00 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by stevebrot

Welcome to the Pentax Forums and thank you for first post. I'm sure it will stir some interesting discussion.

Steve

(Cost per ounce...Pentax vs. Nikon...vs. top sirloin...)

(...where are you folk getting the popcorn?)

A-ha! now we're talking!

Fancy a nice bistecca alla fiorentina, grilled on a Tuscan olive wood fire?
We say: "Se tu la vo' 'otta, c'è i' Mec Dònalde" - "if you want it 'well done', go to a McDonald's"

Bistecca by Paolo Del Lungo, su Flickr

Kunzite · 06-14-2018, 10:08 AM - **1 Like**

It looks a bit underexposed

LensBeginner · 06-14-2018, 10:17 AM

Originally posted by Kunzite

It looks a bit underexposed

It was not quite there yet... it gets a little brownier, and then it's on the table. Salt, (pepper to taste), and extra-virgin olive oil.

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06-14-2018, 02:52 AM	#61
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,668	As others have said, they are just different cameras. Tons of different components and therefore it is hard to say why the K-1 weighs a tiny fraction more. Image stabilization certainly could be it, but truthfully the shutter mechanisms, chassis, and everything else about the cameras is different. It is more surprising that they are so close in size than that the Pentax is a tiny bit heavier. On a brighter note, I have found that if I empty the change out of my pockets before I pick up my K-1, I have found that my overall body mass is less than if I was holding a D850 -- particularly when I have the FA 31 or FA 77 mounted. (It is silly to consider the weight of a camera without a lens).

06-14-2018, 03:32 AM - 1 Like	#62
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,186	Originally posted by peterh337 This thread is surely a windup 5 grams is less than irrelevant! It is totally irrelevant - and we wouldn't be talking about it if reviewers hadn't noticed and used it as a negative.

06-14-2018, 03:53 AM	#63
ffking Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Old South Wales Posts: 6,039	I think a lot of it come down to psychology - we have a ball park expectation that bigger things are heavier than smaller things - so a D850 feels light for its size and therefore light and a K-1 feels heavy for its size, therefore heavy - it doesn't explain why people complain about the size of the K-1 (other than comparing with previous Pentax DSLRs or just wanting to find something to complain about), but I think it accounts for the weight issue to some extent

06-14-2018, 04:51 AM	#64
Bert J Banned Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 21	Originally posted by stevebrot What is with all this of topic stuff about biased reviewers? I thought the question was speculation about why the K-1 weighs just a smidgeon more than a competitor's product that none of us can or want to afford. A few words come to mind..."Get" "over" "it". Steve Um...I want to afford the D850. SIGH

06-14-2018, 05:28 AM	#65
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,186	Originally posted by Bert J Um...I want to afford the D850. SIGH If you look at DxOMark scores, the K-1 tests nearly as well as the D850 at a fraction the cost!!

06-14-2018, 05:42 AM - 4 Likes	#66
Sandy Hancock Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Adelaide Hills, South Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,276	This popcorn tastes good....

06-14-2018, 06:04 AM - 3 Likes	#67
ffking Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Old South Wales Posts: 6,039	Originally posted by Bert J Um...I want to afford the D850. Me too - if I could afford the D850, then I could buy a couple more top notch Pentax lenses

06-14-2018, 06:30 AM	#68
Mallee Boy Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: South Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,904	Originally posted by Sandy Hancock This popcorn tastes good.... Johnnys....the caramel coated stuff ?

06-14-2018, 08:05 AM	#69
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by Bert J Um...I want to afford the D850. SIGH Welcome to the Pentax Forums and thank you for first post. I'm sure it will stir some interesting discussion. Steve (Cost per ounce...Pentax vs. Nikon...vs. top sirloin...) (...where are you folk getting the popcorn?)

06-14-2018, 08:06 AM	#70
swanlefitte Pentaxian Join Date: May 2015 Location: Minneapolis Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,068	5 grams is huge. If it were botulinum thats enough to kill 50 million people. "Botulinum toxin Scientists differ about the relative toxicities of substances, but they seem to agree that botulinum toxin, produced by anaerobic bacteria, is the most toxic substance known. Its LD50 is tiny – at most 1 nanogram per kilogram can kill a human. Extrapolating from its effect on mice, an intravenous dose of just 10-7g would be fatal to a 70kg person" So there. We can end this discussion. Our beloved K1 is dangerous heavy!

06-14-2018, 08:08 AM	#71
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by reh321 It is totally irrelevant - and we wouldn't be talking about it if reviewers hadn't noticed and used it as a negative. Yep...it is all about the review, the secret sauce in the lives of all true Pentaxians. Steve

06-14-2018, 08:10 AM	#72
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by reh321 If you look at DxOMark scores, the K-1 tests nearly as well as the D850 at a fraction the cost!! Yep! And that other Web sites reviewers panned the AF on both cameras! Steve

06-14-2018, 10:00 AM - 2 Likes	#73
LensBeginner Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Photos: Albums Posts: 4,696	Originally posted by stevebrot Welcome to the Pentax Forums and thank you for first post. I'm sure it will stir some interesting discussion. Steve (Cost per ounce...Pentax vs. Nikon...vs. top sirloin...) (...where are you folk getting the popcorn?) A-ha! now we're talking! Fancy a nice bistecca alla fiorentina, grilled on a Tuscan olive wood fire? We say: "Se tu la vo' 'otta, c'è i' Mec Dònalde" - "if you want it 'well done', go to a McDonald's" Bistecca by Paolo Del Lungo, su Flickr

06-14-2018, 10:08 AM - 1 Like	#74
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	It looks a bit underexposed

06-14-2018, 10:17 AM	#75
LensBeginner Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Photos: Albums Posts: 4,696	Originally posted by Kunzite It looks a bit underexposed It was not quite there yet... it gets a little brownier, and then it's on the table. Salt, (pepper to taste), and extra-virgin olive oil.

K-1 is noticeably smaller than D850 in most measures but ..

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