Bakedin NR - should I disable Software NR?

Viennese · 07-28-2018, 01:28 AM

I asked myself if some of the bad experiences with the K-1 MKII come from applying noise reduction to a allready noice reduced raw file. Capture One for example applies a fair amount of noise reduction by default until you push the slider to the left and disable it.

What are your experiences? How do you deal with that?

howieb101 · 07-28-2018, 04:05 AM

Well, you've posed a loaded question to start with. Only DPR seems to be complaining about image quality. By and large people are happy with the mk II and that includes lots of people who chose to do the circuit board upgrade.

If image quality really was a noticeable step backwards those upgraders would be posting enmass and it hasn't happened.

D1N0 · 07-28-2018, 04:17 AM

I find colour noise reduction harmless and useful. Luminance NR can destroy detail, but when used moderately you maintain detail while decreasing the visibility of noise. it is still visible when you pixel peep, but not when showing the picture at viewing size.

photoptimist · 07-28-2018, 05:51 AM

There can be no general rule for this because the beneficial (or detrimental) effects of NR vary so much with the scene, lens, aperture, shooting conditions, ISO, and the photographer's goals.

The best strategy is the try NR but inspect any detailed portions of the image for ill-effects.

victormeldrew · 07-28-2018, 06:57 AM

Originally posted by Viennese

What are your experiences? How do you deal with that?

I don't have a K-1ii, but my approach applies nonetheless. First I look at the image and see if there is too much noise for my taste. If there is, I apply enough noise reduction to reduce the noise until it looks good to my eye, but not so much as to lose detail. I apply a little sharpening if required, but no so much as to introduce artifacts. If the noise is already sufficiently under control, I leave the NR at zero.

Viennese · 08-03-2018, 01:08 AM

C1 allows to write your own default NR values for specific cameras. Sounds like a reasonable solution. Double NR is too much of a good thing.

**Rondec** · 08-03-2018, 02:26 AM - **1 Like**

I use a K-1 II, but I use Lightroom. I basically turn off noise reduction in Lightroom below iso 3200 and depending on the image will use a little bit over that. It just depends, but with the accelerator chip in the K-1 II you really don't need much noise reduction, even at higher iso settings.

07-28-2018, 01:28 AM	#1
Viennese Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 39	Bakedin NR - should I disable Software NR? I asked myself if some of the bad experiences with the K-1 MKII come from applying noise reduction to a allready noice reduced raw file. Capture One for example applies a fair amount of noise reduction by default until you push the slider to the left and disable it. What are your experiences? How do you deal with that?

08-03-2018, 01:08 AM	#6
Viennese Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 39 Original Poster	Possible solution: C1 allows to write your own default NR values for specific cameras. Sounds like a reasonable solution. Double NR is too much of a good thing.

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07-28-2018, 04:05 AM	#2
howieb101 Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Melbourne, Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 594	Well, you've posed a loaded question to start with. Only DPR seems to be complaining about image quality. By and large people are happy with the mk II and that includes lots of people who chose to do the circuit board upgrade. If image quality really was a noticeable step backwards those upgraders would be posting enmass and it hasn't happened.

07-28-2018, 04:17 AM	#3
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	I find colour noise reduction harmless and useful. Luminance NR can destroy detail, but when used moderately you maintain detail while decreasing the visibility of noise. it is still visible when you pixel peep, but not when showing the picture at viewing size.

07-28-2018, 05:51 AM	#4
photoptimist Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2016 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,122	There can be no general rule for this because the beneficial (or detrimental) effects of NR vary so much with the scene, lens, aperture, shooting conditions, ISO, and the photographer's goals. The best strategy is the try NR but inspect any detailed portions of the image for ill-effects.

07-28-2018, 06:57 AM	#5
victormeldrew Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: South West UK Photos: Albums Posts: 1,493	Originally posted by Viennese What are your experiences? How do you deal with that? I don't have a K-1ii, but my approach applies nonetheless. First I look at the image and see if there is too much noise for my taste. If there is, I apply enough noise reduction to reduce the noise until it looks good to my eye, but not so much as to lose detail. I apply a little sharpening if required, but no so much as to introduce artifacts. If the noise is already sufficiently under control, I leave the NR at zero.

08-03-2018, 02:26 AM - 1 Like	#7
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,652	I use a K-1 II, but I use Lightroom. I basically turn off noise reduction in Lightroom below iso 3200 and depending on the image will use a little bit over that. It just depends, but with the accelerator chip in the K-1 II you really don't need much noise reduction, even at higher iso settings.