Brand new K1 with a moving part inside it

Fernando Sousa · 10-31-2019, 12:48 PM

Hi all, new here, my first post ever was yesterday (though i am member since a few months ago). What had changed is that I finally ordered a K1. And it arrived today. So i entered the digital Pentax world.

I cannot yet try the camera (no cards and no lens with me), but as soon as i opened the box (which, by the way, was not sealed - is this common?) and picked the camera up, i felt an odd thing: As i tilted it sideways, i felt something moving inside (sideways as well), like something substancial, substancial enough for one to feel it (not only ear it). My other dslr is a Canon and it has no moving parts inside it. So, at first, i started thinking I got a faulty camera. Then I started googling and came upon the possibility that it is normal for dslr Pentax cameras to have moving parts, due to the shake reduction system inside them, which can be felt when the camera is turned off. Is it so? For you owners of a K1, is all this normal and there is actually a free moving part inside the K1 that moves to either side, as we tilt the camera one side or the other?

Adam · 10-31-2019, 12:53 PM - **1 Like**

Yup, this is perfectly normal

normhead · 10-31-2019, 12:54 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Fernando Sousa

Hi all, new here, my first post ever was yesterday (though i am member since a few months ago). What had changed is that I finally ordered a K1. And it arrived today. So i entered the digital Pentax world.

I cannot yet try the camera (no cards and no lens with me), but as soon as i opened the box (which, by the way, was not sealed - is this common?) and picked the camera up, i felt an odd thing: As i tilted it sideways, i felt something moving inside (sideways as well), like something substancial, substancial enough for one to feel it (not only ear it). My other dslr is a Canon and it has no moving parts inside it. So, at first, i started thinking I got a faulty camera. Then I started googling and came upon the possibility that it is normal for dslr Pentax cameras to have moving parts, due to the shake reduction system inside them, which can be felt when the camera is turned off. Is it so? For you owners of a K1, is all this normal and there is actually a free moving part inside the K1 that moves to either side, as we tilt the camera one side or the other?

I once received an open box "new camera" that didn't work correctly, and it turned out that it had been mixed up with a camera that had been returned and was supposed to be shipped back to Pentax. The store in question sent me a new camera and a $100 gift certificate.

And no. my K-1 is almost 3 years old, and there are no moving parts shaking around in side it. If I shake it, I hear a faint click, but I can't feel it. When you turn it on, you'll hear the dust reduction sequence, but it doesn't continue past the power up sequence.

Contact the vendor.

**othar** · 10-31-2019, 12:54 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Fernando Sousa

As i tilted it sideways, i felt something moving inside (sideways as well), like something substancial, substancial enough for one to feel it (not only ear it)

This is probably the sensor. It is moveable to allow SR (shake reduction) which is done by moving the sensor around.

**RobA_Oz** · 10-31-2019, 12:56 PM - **1 Like**

Given that only you can hear the noise, so we can’t specifically say anything about your camera, those sorts of noises are reported frequently by people who are new to the Pentax shake-reduction system. The frame on which the sensor is mounted has to be free to move, for the shake reduction to work. If you try taking some photos, and they turn out well, the chances are that there’s nothing wrong with your camera.

pschlute · 10-31-2019, 01:10 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by Fernando Sousa

and picked the camera up, i felt an odd thing: As i tilted it sideways, i felt something moving inside (sideways as well), like something substancial, substancial enough for one to feel it (not only ear it).

You should be worried if you cannot hear it.

C_Jones · 10-31-2019, 01:12 PM - **1 Like**

If you note the below shortcut to a video about the K-1 SR, it will show you examples/explanations of movements that occur.

You Tube

Unregistered User · 10-31-2019, 02:23 PM - **1 Like**

I recognize this: I have a few Pentax DSLR's and I felt the same thing you describe. But I do not know if the battery was inside the camera when you unpacked it. In my case it is the battery that moves when you tilt the camera sideways. After I removed the battery I could not feel the movement. And you just feel it,you do not hear it. And the battery is a substantial part.

aaacb · 10-31-2019, 04:12 PM - **1 Like**

While the camera is powered off, it is normal to hear and/or feel the SR unit moving around when you tilt the camera.

Fernando Sousa · 10-31-2019, 04:19 PM

Originally posted by AfterPentax

I recognize this: I have a few Pentax DSLR's and I felt the same thing you describe. But I do not know if the battery was inside the camera when you unpacked it. In my case it is the battery that moves when you tilt the camera sideways. After I removed the battery I could not feel the movement. And you just feel it,you do not hear it. And the battery is a substantial part.

Thanks, AfterPentax, in my case, the battery was not inside the camera. So, i cannot imagine anything else that could cause that impression to me. I will need to take a few photos, to check further on this issue.

---------- Post added 10-31-19 at 04:20 PM ----------

Originally posted by normhead

I once received an open box "new camera" that didn't work correctly, and it turned out that it had been mixed up with a camera that had been returned and was supposed to be shipped back to Pentax. The store in question sent me a new camera and a $100 gift certificate.

And no. my K-1 is almost 3 years old, and there are no moving parts shaking around in side it. If I shake it, I hear a faint click, but I can't feel it. When you turn it on, you'll hear the dust reduction sequence, but it doesn't continue past the power up sequence.

Contact the vendor.

Yes, i guess i will need to do that, let's see however if i can take photos and how they come out. Thanks.

---------- Post added 10-31-19 at 04:23 PM ----------

Originally posted by RobA_Oz

Given that only you can hear the noise, so we can’t specifically say anything about your camera, those sorts of noises are reported frequently by people who are new to the Pentax shake-reduction system. The frame on which the sensor is mounted has to be free to move, for the shake reduction to work. If you try taking some photos, and they turn out well, the chances are that there’s nothing wrong with your camera.

Indeed, that's what i need to do next as soon as possible: Taking some photos!!!

normhead · 10-31-2019, 04:25 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Fernando Sousa

Thanks, AfterPentax, in my case, the battery was not inside the camera. So, i cannot imagine anything else that could cause that impression to me. I will need to take a few photos, to check further on this issue.

---------- Post added 10-31-19 at 04:20 PM ----------

Yes, i guess i will need to do that, let's see however if i can take photos and how they come out. Thanks.

So much information, if the camera works when powered on and a battery in place and it still has something moving when you tilt it. Sending it back might be the thing to do. There's lots things being said here that i can't replicate, but, I have one camera. There is a little clunk when I turn my camera sideways, but it's quite faint, and honestly, I have to make it happen, it's not something I've noticed in actually use.

Fernando Sousa · 10-31-2019, 04:30 PM

Thanks to you all, i will need to take some photos and then i will comeback with some news, hopefully good ones. The only thing is that i will only be able to do so by Saturday. A long Friday it will be...

---------- Post added 10-31-19 at 04:37 PM ----------

Originally posted by normhead

So much information, if the camera works when powered on and a battery inlace and it still has something moving when you til it. Sending it back might be the thing to do. There's lots things being said her that i can't replicate, but, I have one camera. There is a little clunk when I turn my camera sideways, but it's quite faint, and honestly, I have to make it happen, it's not something I've noticed in actually use.

I have noticed that moving thing as soon as i opened the box, so the camera had no power at all. The battery was left charging at my office, which is not where i am now, so only tomorrow i will turn it on and see if that moving part still happens. Fingers crossed...

---------- Post added 10-31-19 at 04:40 PM ----------

Originally posted by aaacb

While the camera is powered off, it is normal to hear and/or feel the SR unit moving around when you tilt the camera.

You give me some hope (as well as Adam Othar, RobA_Oz, aaacb etc.)

. Thanks

---------- Post added 10-31-19 at 04:41 PM ----------

Originally posted by C_Jones

If you note the below shortcut to a video about the K-1 SR, it will show you examples/explanations of movements that occur.

PENTAX K-1 SRII in-body shake reduction mechanism - YouTube

Great, thanks (y)

biz-engineer · 10-31-2019, 05:34 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Fernando Sousa

Brand new K1 with a moving part inside it

Those are the firmware bugs that got fried inside the camera after the last firmware updade

stillshot2 · 10-31-2019, 05:35 PM - **1 Like**

I'd like to add that some Pentax DSLR's I've owned have had more movement than others with the shake reduction system inside when off. Can't remember specific models but I think a K-30 I had was very noticeable and a K-200 perhaps was not, so I'd chalk it up to variance in manufacturing.

Fernando Sousa · 10-31-2019, 06:01 PM

Originally posted by stillshot2

I'd like to add that some Pentax DSLR's I've owned have had more movement than others with the shake reduction system inside when off. Can't remember specific models but I think a K-30 I had was very noticeable and a K-200 perhaps was not, so I'd chalk it up to variance in manufacturing.

According to what others have being said so far, it looks like there are different experiences about this moving thing subject, which may suggest that there may be variances in manufacturing the cameras, indeed. I just do not know if that is a good thing or not. I mean, it may be a justification for those of us that feel this movement thing, but OTOH, one may wonder how come that there may be such variances in the production of such high tech products...

10-31-2019, 12:48 PM	#1
Fernando Sousa Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 37	Brand new K1 with a moving part inside it Hi all, new here, my first post ever was yesterday (though i am member since a few months ago). What had changed is that I finally ordered a K1. And it arrived today. So i entered the digital Pentax world. I cannot yet try the camera (no cards and no lens with me), but as soon as i opened the box (which, by the way, was not sealed - is this common?) and picked the camera up, i felt an odd thing: As i tilted it sideways, i felt something moving inside (sideways as well), like something substancial, substancial enough for one to feel it (not only ear it). My other dslr is a Canon and it has no moving parts inside it. So, at first, i started thinking I got a faulty camera. Then I started googling and came upon the possibility that it is normal for dslr Pentax cameras to have moving parts, due to the shake reduction system inside them, which can be felt when the camera is turned off. Is it so? For you owners of a K1, is all this normal and there is actually a free moving part inside the K1 that moves to either side, as we tilt the camera one side or the other?

10-31-2019, 12:53 PM - 1 Like	#2
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10-31-2019, 02:23 PM - 1 Like	#8
Unregistered User Guest	Brand new K1 with a moving part inside it I recognize this: I have a few Pentax DSLR's and I felt the same thing you describe. But I do not know if the battery was inside the camera when you unpacked it. In my case it is the battery that moves when you tilt the camera sideways. After I removed the battery I could not feel the movement. And you just feel it,you do not hear it. And the battery is a substantial part.

10-31-2019, 04:25 PM - 1 Like	#11
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Originally posted by Fernando Sousa Thanks, AfterPentax, in my case, the battery was not inside the camera. So, i cannot imagine anything else that could cause that impression to me. I will need to take a few photos, to check further on this issue. ---------- Post added 10-31-19 at 04:20 PM ---------- Yes, i guess i will need to do that, let's see however if i can take photos and how they come out. Thanks. So much information, if the camera works when powered on and a battery in place and it still has something moving when you tilt it. Sending it back might be the thing to do. There's lots things being said here that i can't replicate, but, I have one camera. There is a little clunk when I turn my camera sideways, but it's quite faint, and honestly, I have to make it happen, it's not something I've noticed in actually use. Last edited by normhead; 10-31-2019 at 07:20 PM.

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10-31-2019, 12:54 PM - 1 Like	#3
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Originally posted by Fernando Sousa Hi all, new here, my first post ever was yesterday (though i am member since a few months ago). What had changed is that I finally ordered a K1. And it arrived today. So i entered the digital Pentax world. I cannot yet try the camera (no cards and no lens with me), but as soon as i opened the box (which, by the way, was not sealed - is this common?) and picked the camera up, i felt an odd thing: As i tilted it sideways, i felt something moving inside (sideways as well), like something substancial, substancial enough for one to feel it (not only ear it). My other dslr is a Canon and it has no moving parts inside it. So, at first, i started thinking I got a faulty camera. Then I started googling and came upon the possibility that it is normal for dslr Pentax cameras to have moving parts, due to the shake reduction system inside them, which can be felt when the camera is turned off. Is it so? For you owners of a K1, is all this normal and there is actually a free moving part inside the K1 that moves to either side, as we tilt the camera one side or the other? I once received an open box "new camera" that didn't work correctly, and it turned out that it had been mixed up with a camera that had been returned and was supposed to be shipped back to Pentax. The store in question sent me a new camera and a $100 gift certificate. And no. my K-1 is almost 3 years old, and there are no moving parts shaking around in side it. If I shake it, I hear a faint click, but I can't feel it. When you turn it on, you'll hear the dust reduction sequence, but it doesn't continue past the power up sequence. Contact the vendor.

10-31-2019, 12:54 PM - 1 Like	#4
othar Site Supporter Join Date: May 2014 Location: Linz Photos: Albums Posts: 3,098	Originally posted by Fernando Sousa As i tilted it sideways, i felt something moving inside (sideways as well), like something substancial, substancial enough for one to feel it (not only ear it) This is probably the sensor. It is moveable to allow SR (shake reduction) which is done by moving the sensor around.

10-31-2019, 12:56 PM - 1 Like	#5
RobA_Oz Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tasmania, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,197	Given that only you can hear the noise, so we can’t specifically say anything about your camera, those sorts of noises are reported frequently by people who are new to the Pentax shake-reduction system. The frame on which the sensor is mounted has to be free to move, for the shake reduction to work. If you try taking some photos, and they turn out well, the chances are that there’s nothing wrong with your camera.

10-31-2019, 01:10 PM - 2 Likes	#6
pschlute Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Surrey, UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,198	Originally posted by Fernando Sousa and picked the camera up, i felt an odd thing: As i tilted it sideways, i felt something moving inside (sideways as well), like something substancial, substancial enough for one to feel it (not only ear it). You should be worried if you cannot hear it.

10-31-2019, 04:12 PM - 1 Like	#9
aaacb Pentaxian Join Date: May 2016 Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,724	While the camera is powered off, it is normal to hear and/or feel the SR unit moving around when you tilt the camera.

10-31-2019, 04:19 PM	#10
Fernando Sousa Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 37 Original Poster	Originally posted by AfterPentax I recognize this: I have a few Pentax DSLR's and I felt the same thing you describe. But I do not know if the battery was inside the camera when you unpacked it. In my case it is the battery that moves when you tilt the camera sideways. After I removed the battery I could not feel the movement. And you just feel it,you do not hear it. And the battery is a substantial part. Thanks, AfterPentax, in my case, the battery was not inside the camera. So, i cannot imagine anything else that could cause that impression to me. I will need to take a few photos, to check further on this issue. ---------- Post added 10-31-19 at 04:20 PM ---------- Originally posted by normhead I once received an open box "new camera" that didn't work correctly, and it turned out that it had been mixed up with a camera that had been returned and was supposed to be shipped back to Pentax. The store in question sent me a new camera and a $100 gift certificate. And no. my K-1 is almost 3 years old, and there are no moving parts shaking around in side it. If I shake it, I hear a faint click, but I can't feel it. When you turn it on, you'll hear the dust reduction sequence, but it doesn't continue past the power up sequence. Contact the vendor. Yes, i guess i will need to do that, let's see however if i can take photos and how they come out. Thanks. ---------- Post added 10-31-19 at 04:23 PM ---------- Originally posted by RobA_Oz Given that only you can hear the noise, so we can’t specifically say anything about your camera, those sorts of noises are reported frequently by people who are new to the Pentax shake-reduction system. The frame on which the sensor is mounted has to be free to move, for the shake reduction to work. If you try taking some photos, and they turn out well, the chances are that there’s nothing wrong with your camera. Indeed, that's what i need to do next as soon as possible: Taking some photos!!!

10-31-2019, 04:30 PM	#12
Fernando Sousa Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 37 Original Poster	Thanks to you all, i will need to take some photos and then i will comeback with some news, hopefully good ones. The only thing is that i will only be able to do so by Saturday. A long Friday it will be... ---------- Post added 10-31-19 at 04:37 PM ---------- Originally posted by normhead So much information, if the camera works when powered on and a battery inlace and it still has something moving when you til it. Sending it back might be the thing to do. There's lots things being said her that i can't replicate, but, I have one camera. There is a little clunk when I turn my camera sideways, but it's quite faint, and honestly, I have to make it happen, it's not something I've noticed in actually use. I have noticed that moving thing as soon as i opened the box, so the camera had no power at all. The battery was left charging at my office, which is not where i am now, so only tomorrow i will turn it on and see if that moving part still happens. Fingers crossed... ---------- Post added 10-31-19 at 04:40 PM ---------- Originally posted by aaacb While the camera is powered off, it is normal to hear and/or feel the SR unit moving around when you tilt the camera. You give me some hope (as well as Adam Othar, RobA_Oz, aaacb etc.) . Thanks ---------- Post added 10-31-19 at 04:41 PM ---------- Originally posted by C_Jones If you note the below shortcut to a video about the K-1 SR, it will show you examples/explanations of movements that occur. PENTAX K-1 SRII in-body shake reduction mechanism - YouTube Great, thanks (y)

10-31-2019, 05:34 PM - 1 Like	#13
biz-engineer Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 12,231	Originally posted by Fernando Sousa Brand new K1 with a moving part inside it Those are the firmware bugs that got fried inside the camera after the last firmware updade

10-31-2019, 05:35 PM - 1 Like	#14
stillshot2 Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Phoenix, AZ Photos: Albums Posts: 1,070	I'd like to add that some Pentax DSLR's I've owned have had more movement than others with the shake reduction system inside when off. Can't remember specific models but I think a K-30 I had was very noticeable and a K-200 perhaps was not, so I'd chalk it up to variance in manufacturing.

10-31-2019, 06:01 PM	#15
Fernando Sousa Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 37 Original Poster	Originally posted by stillshot2 I'd like to add that some Pentax DSLR's I've owned have had more movement than others with the shake reduction system inside when off. Can't remember specific models but I think a K-30 I had was very noticeable and a K-200 perhaps was not, so I'd chalk it up to variance in manufacturing. According to what others have being said so far, it looks like there are different experiences about this moving thing subject, which may suggest that there may be variances in manufacturing the cameras, indeed. I just do not know if that is a good thing or not. I mean, it may be a justification for those of us that feel this movement thing, but OTOH, one may wonder how come that there may be such variances in the production of such high tech products...