I love my K-1, but...

**ffking** · 01-05-2021, 11:15 AM - **1 Like**

This is clearly not infallible, but I only ever take one card out at a time and then only to download files to the laptop, after which I replace the card in the camera immediately. I do this at the end of any day where I have shot images - sometimes several times a day if I touch base between bouts of photography. Not infallible, as I say - and doesn't help with card failures - but its not let me down yet

automorphism · 01-05-2021, 11:59 AM - **1 Like**

I just use the cable to transfer images. That way, the card never leaves my camera.

gatorguy · 01-05-2021, 12:02 PM

Originally posted by automorphism

I just use the cable to transfer images. That way, the card never leaves my camera.

Now that you mention it I wonder where I put that cable?

automorphism · 01-05-2021, 12:05 PM

Originally posted by gatorguy

Now that you mention it I wonder where I put that cable?

Haha, I forgot to say that I leave the cable dangling from my desktop.

lytrytyr · 01-05-2021, 12:20 PM

Originally posted by robgski

I really wish the "No Card in Camera" would appear prominently upon start up

You can check the top LCD on startup.

But I got my first "No Card in Camera" message a couple of days ago. Thing is, I'd been shooting for a while, and chimping the images, so there really was a card in the camera!

Explanation? It was cold, around the lower operating limit for the K-1. But that low limit is no use, if it's below the temperature limit for the card.

Back in the warm, I took out the battery to recharge it, and let the camera and the card get back to their comfort zone.

Unfortunately, the K-1 with a good lens is too large to keep under my coat, the way I've usually done before with lesser cameras.

**Apet-Sure** · 01-05-2021, 01:28 PM - **2 Likes**

I don't own a dual slot camera, or a laptop. All of my file transferring is done inside at the desktop computer. When I pull the card, I leave the door on the camera open as a reminder.

**Michail_P** · 01-05-2021, 01:32 PM

Originally posted by zzeitg

Kind of inbuilt memory (say for 50 images) would save me several times.

That’s a strangely interesting idea. Could they do it?

stevebrot · 01-05-2021, 01:43 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Apet-Sure

When I pull the card, I leave the door on the camera open as a reminder.

I do that too, but almost stuck the K-3 back in the bag with the door open one day as I was running out to get that once in a lifetime shot.

Steve

stevebrot · 01-05-2021, 01:45 PM

Originally posted by Michail_P

Could they do it?

The existing memory is what we call "buffer". It may be possible to operate the camera on buffer alone; but of course the images will be lost if the camera is turned off.

Steve

dave_roe · 01-05-2021, 01:55 PM - **1 Like**

I will stick a spare card in my wallet when I plan on being out and too far from the bag. Has saved me more than once.

gatorguy · 01-05-2021, 02:00 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by stevebrot

I do that too, but almost stuck the K-3 back in the bag with the door open one day as I was running out to get that once in a lifetime shot.

Steve

The doors are so fragile I wouldn't invite a problem by not closing it. I almost always grab my camera first by the Spyder-strap and wouldn't necessarily notice the SD door was open.

For others it might work, but my luck says nope.

leekil · 01-05-2021, 10:49 PM

Originally posted by stevebrot

The existing memory is what we call "buffer". It may be possible to operate the camera on buffer alone; but of course the images will be lost if the camera is turned off.

He's talking about having photo storage memory specifically for that purpose; some older cameras had that, plus a card slot, but no Pentax DSLRs.

You *may* be able to take one photo, and have it stay in the buffer without a card until you turn it off, but maybe not.

Edit: Actually that wouldn't work, opening the door to insert a card will turn off the camera.

stevebrot · 01-05-2021, 11:08 PM

Originally posted by leekil

He's talking about having photo storage memory specifically for that purpose; some older cameras had that, plus a card slot, but no Pentax DSLRs.

You *may* be able to take one photo, and have it stay in the buffer without a card until you turn it off, but maybe not.

Edit: Actually that wouldn't work, opening the door to insert a card will turn off the camera.

I remember older cameras that would write to buffer for in-store demo purposes, but none that provided non-volatile RAM. It is the lack of such that makes supporting such a feature unfeasible as anything other than a hardware upgrade.

Steve

stevejo · 01-06-2021, 02:43 AM

If you use a battery grip, there may be a slot to store a spare SD card.

**ffking** · 01-06-2021, 08:08 AM

Originally posted by Apet-Sure

When I pull the card, I leave the door on the camera open as a reminder.

Yuh - me too - I should have mentioned that

01-05-2021, 02:00 PM - 2 Likes	#26
gatorguy Moderator Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Central Florida Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,092	Originally posted by stevebrot I do that too, but almost stuck the K-3 back in the bag with the door open one day as I was running out to get that once in a lifetime shot. Steve The doors are so fragile I wouldn't invite a problem by not closing it. I almost always grab my camera first by the Spyder-strap and wouldn't necessarily notice the SD door was open. For others it might work, but my luck says nope. Last edited by gatorguy; 01-05-2021 at 02:28 PM.

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01-05-2021, 11:15 AM - 1 Like	#16
ffking Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Old South Wales Posts: 6,038	This is clearly not infallible, but I only ever take one card out at a time and then only to download files to the laptop, after which I replace the card in the camera immediately. I do this at the end of any day where I have shot images - sometimes several times a day if I touch base between bouts of photography. Not infallible, as I say - and doesn't help with card failures - but its not let me down yet

01-05-2021, 11:59 AM - 1 Like	#17
automorphism Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Ontario, Canada Photos: Albums Posts: 791	I just use the cable to transfer images. That way, the card never leaves my camera.

01-05-2021, 12:02 PM	#18
gatorguy Moderator Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Central Florida Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,092	Originally posted by automorphism I just use the cable to transfer images. That way, the card never leaves my camera. Now that you mention it I wonder where I put that cable?

01-05-2021, 12:05 PM	#19
automorphism Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Ontario, Canada Photos: Albums Posts: 791	Originally posted by gatorguy Now that you mention it I wonder where I put that cable? Haha, I forgot to say that I leave the cable dangling from my desktop.

01-05-2021, 12:20 PM	#20
lytrytyr Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2011 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,310	Originally posted by robgski I really wish the "No Card in Camera" would appear prominently upon start up You can check the top LCD on startup. But I got my first "No Card in Camera" message a couple of days ago. Thing is, I'd been shooting for a while, and chimping the images, so there really was a card in the camera! Explanation? It was cold, around the lower operating limit for the K-1. But that low limit is no use, if it's below the temperature limit for the card. Back in the warm, I took out the battery to recharge it, and let the camera and the card get back to their comfort zone. Unfortunately, the K-1 with a good lens is too large to keep under my coat, the way I've usually done before with lesser cameras.

01-05-2021, 01:28 PM - 2 Likes	#21
Apet-Sure Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Goldsboro North Carolina Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,861	I don't own a dual slot camera, or a laptop. All of my file transferring is done inside at the desktop computer. When I pull the card, I leave the door on the camera open as a reminder.

01-05-2021, 01:32 PM	#22
Michail_P Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: Kalymnos Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,006	Originally posted by zzeitg Kind of inbuilt memory (say for 50 images) would save me several times. That’s a strangely interesting idea. Could they do it?

01-05-2021, 01:43 PM - 1 Like	#23
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by Apet-Sure When I pull the card, I leave the door on the camera open as a reminder. I do that too, but almost stuck the K-3 back in the bag with the door open one day as I was running out to get that once in a lifetime shot. Steve

01-05-2021, 01:45 PM	#24
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by Michail_P Could they do it? The existing memory is what we call "buffer". It may be possible to operate the camera on buffer alone; but of course the images will be lost if the camera is turned off. Steve

01-05-2021, 01:55 PM - 1 Like	#25
dave_roe Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Rome, Italy Photos: Albums Posts: 584	I will stick a spare card in my wallet when I plan on being out and too far from the bag. Has saved me more than once.

01-05-2021, 10:49 PM	#27
leekil Pentaxian Join Date: May 2016 Photos: Albums Posts: 2,003	Originally posted by stevebrot The existing memory is what we call "buffer". It may be possible to operate the camera on buffer alone; but of course the images will be lost if the camera is turned off. He's talking about having photo storage memory specifically for that purpose; some older cameras had that, plus a card slot, but no Pentax DSLRs. You may be able to take one photo, and have it stay in the buffer without a card until you turn it off, but maybe not. Edit: Actually that wouldn't work, opening the door to insert a card will turn off the camera.

01-05-2021, 11:08 PM	#28
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by leekil He's talking about having photo storage memory specifically for that purpose; some older cameras had that, plus a card slot, but no Pentax DSLRs. You may be able to take one photo, and have it stay in the buffer without a card until you turn it off, but maybe not. Edit: Actually that wouldn't work, opening the door to insert a card will turn off the camera. I remember older cameras that would write to buffer for in-store demo purposes, but none that provided non-volatile RAM. It is the lack of such that makes supporting such a feature unfeasible as anything other than a hardware upgrade. Steve

01-06-2021, 02:43 AM	#29
stevejo Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Worcestershire, UK Photos: Albums Posts: 527	If you use a battery grip, there may be a slot to store a spare SD card.

01-06-2021, 08:08 AM	#30
ffking Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Old South Wales Posts: 6,038	Originally posted by Apet-Sure When I pull the card, I leave the door on the camera open as a reminder. Yuh - me too - I should have mentioned that