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02-06-2021, 06:29 AM   #61
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QuoteOriginally posted by ThorSanchez Quote
With a release schedule of one new camera every 2-3 years
But, is that their release schedule?

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QuoteOriginally posted by Kunzite Quote
But, is that their release schedule?
Considering only mid- to high-level cameras:
  • 2013: K-3 and Ricoh GR
  • 2014: 645Z
  • 2015: K-3 II and Ricoh GR II (= GR + Wi-Fi and NFC + some software improvements)
  • 2016: K-1
  • 2017: KP
  • 2018: K-1 Mark II
  • 2019: Ricoh GR III
  • 2020: Covid-19, delaying the announcement of K-3 Mark III
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QuoteOriginally posted by Kunzite Quote
But, is that their release schedule?
It seems like one model each year:
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QuoteOriginally posted by angerdan Quote
It seems like one model each year:
One Ricoh model each year now.
Fewer Pentax models.
If only three Pentax models are maintained {K-70, K-3, K-1}, that could easily mean a model will last four or five years.

One of my employers was a US defense contractor. One of our projects was a command vehicle for the UK where the command scope showed maps from various sources {for example, one used latitude and longitude while another used polar coordinates from current location} - my job was to get everything to match. Using that philosophy, perhaps they can go a little faster. For example, a 24mp "FF" camera might be made by combining K-1 skin with innards beyond sensor of KP ..... if they want one.


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QuoteOriginally posted by Mistral75 Quote
Considering only mid- to high-level cameras:
  • 2013: K-3 and Ricoh GR
  • 2014: 645Z
  • 2015: K-3 II and Ricoh GR II (= GR + Wi-Fi and NFC + some software improvements)
  • 2016: K-1
  • 2017: KP
  • 2018: K-1 Mark II
  • 2019: Ricoh GR III
  • 2020: Covid-19, delaying the announcement of K-3 Mark III
K-3ii and K-1ii were mid-cycle refreshes. The GRIII is a Ricoh-branded pocket camera. I understand Ricoh/Pentax shares resources and personnel, but for newly designed ILCs they have released two cameras in five years, the K-3iii will be three.
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QuoteOriginally posted by angerdan Quote
It seems like one model each year:
QuoteOriginally posted by reh321 Quote
One Ricoh model each year now.
Fewer Pentax models.
QuoteOriginally posted by ThorSanchez Quote
for newly designed ILCs they have released two cameras in five years, the K-3iii will be three.
But, is that their release schedule?
The correct answer is, we don't know. We cannot assume that the gap required by migrating to a new hardware platform will occur for every single camera from now on, for example.

I'm not sure if they'll decide to have 5 (or more) current Pentax cameras at once. If they'd do that, they would have a suitable (though likely slow, from our point of view) release cycle.
They know what they're capable of; we're merely guessing.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Kunzite Quote
But, is that their release schedule?
The correct answer is, we don't know. We cannot assume that the gap required by migrating to a new hardware platform will occur for every single camera from now on, for example.

I'm not sure if they'll decide to have 5 (or more) current Pentax cameras at once. If they'd do that, they would have a suitable (though likely slow, from our point of view) release cycle.
They know what they're capable of; we're merely guessing.
That is true.
I was merely suggesting interpretations.
We do know from the CP+ 2019 interviews that they apparently have one 'finishing' team shared between various Ricoh brands.
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I am surprised by KP replacement. It fils well under Knew with attractive pricing. That being said a KP available in the 600-700 USD does not leave much room for a K70 replacement around 500 USD...
I just received a KP to “replace” one of my K-70s. Tried it for a day and sent it back. Just didn’t like the feel or ergonomics. I’ll keep my K-70s until they break and then see what’s new.

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I just received a KP to “replace” one of my K-70s. Tried it for a day and sent it back. Just didn’t like the feel or ergonomics. I’ll keep my K-70s until they break and then see what’s new.
I love the ergonomics of the KP.
I dislike the articulated LCD screen of the K-70 which doesn't line up behind the lens and allows subjects to see that I am using it - the KP is much more discrete.
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QuoteOriginally posted by JPT Quote
Actually, there is an announcement today that they are closing orders for the custom order KP J-Limited version as well, which is logical.
PENTAX KP J limited / ??????????? / ?? | RICOH IMAGING

Regarding J-Limited, that is something that is likely to feature in their CP+ presentations. They've already showed K-1 II and GR III custom models that could be launched officially, if only in Japan.
That was quick: five days ago they announced they would discontinue the KP J Limited around mid-February, today they announce that orders are closed.

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PENTAX KP J limitedは受注終了いたしました。
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