K-70 replacement model?

JPT · 02-04-2021, 07:06 PM - **1 Like**

Actually, there is an announcement today that they are closing orders for the custom order KP J-Limited version as well, which is logical.
PENTAX KP J limited / ??????????? / ?? | RICOH IMAGING

Regarding J-Limited, that is something that is likely to feature in their CP+ presentations. They've already showed K-1 II and GR III custom models that could be launched officially, if only in Japan.

Tesla · 02-04-2021, 08:59 PM - **1 Like**

I think they should name the K-70 replacement K-5 III
Then the lineup would be K-1, K-3, and K-5

It wouldn't matter that it is a totally new camera from K-5 II. The K-3 III is all new.

thibs · 02-05-2021, 12:04 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by Tesla

I think they should name the K-70 replacement K-5 III
Then the lineup would be K-1, K-3, and K-5

It wouldn't matter that it is a totally new camera from K-5 II. The K-3 III is all new.

That's actually a surprising but good idea. Why not.

shiner · 02-05-2021, 12:49 AM

Originally posted by OoKU

KP has been discontinued.

No.
Shop - Ricoh

stevejo · 02-05-2021, 01:09 AM

Originally posted by shiner

No.
Shop - Ricoh

Just clicked on that link. Interesting that they describe the KP as a compact "weatherproof" DSLR. Shouldn't this be weather resistant?

JPT · 02-05-2021, 01:28 AM

Originally posted by shiner

No.
Shop - Ricoh

Ricoh Japan has sold out of them in Japan. And they had run out of silver ones months ago.
??????????? - ????? | RICOH IMAGING

Other retailers in Japan have stock but have been told they can't order more. It's a great camera, so I think anyone who wants one would be wise to get their order in while they can.

I guess the factory has moved on to making something else. Wonder what that could be . . .

totsmuyco · 02-05-2021, 02:35 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by JPT

Ricoh Japan has sold out of them in Japan. And they had run out of silver ones months ago.
??????????? - ????? | RICOH IMAGING

Other retailers in Japan have stock but have been told they can't order more. It's a great camera, so I think anyone who wants one would be wise to get their order in while they can.

I guess the factory has moved on to making something else. Wonder what that could be . . .

I hope they'll come up with a KP replacement. It would be nice to have a retro cam in the product line. Lovely looking camera with a great performance.

H. Sapiens · 02-05-2021, 03:43 AM

Originally posted by totsmuyco

I hope they'll come up with a KP replacement. It would be nice to have a retro cam in the product line. Lovely looking camera with a great performance.

When I visited Japan and went shopping for a camera there, I talked to staff and they told me KP had been a success and they got very few back on the 2nd hand market. I ended up buying a used K3ii for half of what a used KP would have cost - at that time there were tons of used K3 I and IIs on sale but few KPs. Now, Ricoh might have sligthly more thorough market research, but I would be surprised if they don't come up with something to replace the KP.

thibs · 02-05-2021, 04:56 AM

IMO they'll get to three models range:
- K70/KP replacement
- K3 range
- K1 range.

If the market goes completely full frame (which I don't expect), they can still use K2 range.

shiner · 02-05-2021, 09:02 PM

Originally posted by stevejo

Just clicked on that link. Interesting that they describe the KP as a compact "weatherproof" DSLR. Shouldn't this be weather resistant?

Yeah, Pentax does not make a weatherproof dslr.

Caribe · 02-06-2021, 12:29 AM

This is my opinion of an ideal set of Pentax offerings.

K70 - this is the lowest priced camera, it should continue to be extremely competitive.
KPx - highly advanced, beautiful and compact. There are plenty of very good reviews from actual owners, should hold against mirror-less retro styled cameras.
K3x - the most advanced apsc dslr on the market.

And the FF dslr should have a:

KP FF - this should be a lower priced dslr. Compact, simple and tough, with retro style body.
K1x- advanced FF dslr

As you see I added a new compact retro style FF dslr. I think they are many that would appreciate a lower priced, smaller and lighter but tough FF. Even if it would have to sacrifice some features as the KP did. This would be a basic line up. So I hope they replace/add rather than discontinue. I know it’s easier to say than to do.

thibs · 02-06-2021, 03:19 AM - **1 Like**

I'd hope too but a 5 cameras line-up is IMO a dream of the past.

totsmuyco · 02-06-2021, 04:45 AM

Just my wild guess. If it will be a 5 camera product line, it will the k70 level, KP level, k3III, k-1 and I hope a 645 replacement. But I guess that'll be very heavy product line to maintain.

**ThorSanchez** · 02-06-2021, 04:49 AM

Originally posted by thibs

I'd hope too but a 5 cameras line-up is IMO a dream of the past.

With a release schedule of one new camera every 2-3 years it would take a long time to flesh out a 5-camera line. Not only that, but Ooku posted in the last day or two that the KP has been discontinued at about the same time the K-3iii is going to be released, so a two- or three-camera line seems more likely.

**Serkevan** · 02-06-2021, 05:32 AM

Three cameras sounds reasonable:
-Field camera (K-1 line: high resolution FF sensor, Astrotracer as default, extremely rugged up to and including the tilt screen, no focus on speed)
-Action camera (K-3 line: high frame rate, compact body, fixed screen, AF improvements appear here first)
-Generalist/"amateur" camera. Midrange price, solid performance all around. Not sure if more of a K-90 or a KP2, or even a KP with 24MP full frame sensor, but I'm fairly sure it would continue to be APS-C.

02-06-2021, 12:29 AM	#56
Caribe Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 90	This is my opinion of an ideal set of Pentax offerings. K70 - this is the lowest priced camera, it should continue to be extremely competitive. KPx - highly advanced, beautiful and compact. There are plenty of very good reviews from actual owners, should hold against mirror-less retro styled cameras. K3x - the most advanced apsc dslr on the market. And the FF dslr should have a: KP FF - this should be a lower priced dslr. Compact, simple and tough, with retro style body. K1x- advanced FF dslr As you see I added a new compact retro style FF dslr. I think they are many that would appreciate a lower priced, smaller and lighter but tough FF. Even if it would have to sacrifice some features as the KP did. This would be a basic line up. So I hope they replace/add rather than discontinue. I know it’s easier to say than to do. Last edited by Caribe; 02-06-2021 at 12:32 AM. Reason: Correction

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02-04-2021, 07:06 PM - 1 Like	#46
JPT Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Tokyo Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,821	Actually, there is an announcement today that they are closing orders for the custom order KP J-Limited version as well, which is logical. PENTAX KP J limited / ??????????? / ?? \| RICOH IMAGING Regarding J-Limited, that is something that is likely to feature in their CP+ presentations. They've already showed K-1 II and GR III custom models that could be launched officially, if only in Japan.

02-04-2021, 08:59 PM - 1 Like	#47
Tesla Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Washington State Posts: 589	I think they should name the K-70 replacement K-5 III Then the lineup would be K-1, K-3, and K-5 It wouldn't matter that it is a totally new camera from K-5 II. The K-3 III is all new.

02-05-2021, 12:04 AM - 2 Likes	#48
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by Tesla I think they should name the K-70 replacement K-5 III Then the lineup would be K-1, K-3, and K-5 It wouldn't matter that it is a totally new camera from K-5 II. The K-3 III is all new. That's actually a surprising but good idea. Why not.

02-05-2021, 12:49 AM	#49
shiner Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: N GA USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,127	Originally posted by OoKU KP has been discontinued. No. Shop - Ricoh

02-05-2021, 01:09 AM	#50
stevejo Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Worcestershire, UK Photos: Albums Posts: 527	Originally posted by shiner No. Shop - Ricoh Just clicked on that link. Interesting that they describe the KP as a compact "weatherproof" DSLR. Shouldn't this be weather resistant?

02-05-2021, 01:28 AM	#51
JPT Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Tokyo Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,821	Originally posted by shiner No. Shop - Ricoh Ricoh Japan has sold out of them in Japan. And they had run out of silver ones months ago. ??????????? - ????? \| RICOH IMAGING Other retailers in Japan have stock but have been told they can't order more. It's a great camera, so I think anyone who wants one would be wise to get their order in while they can. I guess the factory has moved on to making something else. Wonder what that could be . . .

02-05-2021, 02:35 AM - 2 Likes	#52
totsmuyco Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Iloilo City Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,276	Originally posted by JPT Ricoh Japan has sold out of them in Japan. And they had run out of silver ones months ago. ??????????? - ????? \| RICOH IMAGING Other retailers in Japan have stock but have been told they can't order more. It's a great camera, so I think anyone who wants one would be wise to get their order in while they can. I guess the factory has moved on to making something else. Wonder what that could be . . . I hope they'll come up with a KP replacement. It would be nice to have a retro cam in the product line. Lovely looking camera with a great performance.

02-05-2021, 03:43 AM	#53
H. Sapiens Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 328	Originally posted by totsmuyco I hope they'll come up with a KP replacement. It would be nice to have a retro cam in the product line. Lovely looking camera with a great performance. When I visited Japan and went shopping for a camera there, I talked to staff and they told me KP had been a success and they got very few back on the 2nd hand market. I ended up buying a used K3ii for half of what a used KP would have cost - at that time there were tons of used K3 I and IIs on sale but few KPs. Now, Ricoh might have sligthly more thorough market research, but I would be surprised if they don't come up with something to replace the KP.

02-05-2021, 04:56 AM	#54
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	IMO they'll get to three models range: - K70/KP replacement - K3 range - K1 range. If the market goes completely full frame (which I don't expect), they can still use K2 range.

02-05-2021, 09:02 PM	#55
shiner Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: N GA USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,127	Originally posted by stevejo Just clicked on that link. Interesting that they describe the KP as a compact "weatherproof" DSLR. Shouldn't this be weather resistant? Yeah, Pentax does not make a weatherproof dslr.

02-06-2021, 03:19 AM - 1 Like	#57
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	I'd hope too but a 5 cameras line-up is IMO a dream of the past.

02-06-2021, 04:45 AM	#58
totsmuyco Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Iloilo City Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,276	Just my wild guess. If it will be a 5 camera product line, it will the k70 level, KP level, k3III, k-1 and I hope a 645 replacement. But I guess that'll be very heavy product line to maintain.

02-06-2021, 04:49 AM	#59
ThorSanchez Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2012 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,807	Originally posted by thibs I'd hope too but a 5 cameras line-up is IMO a dream of the past. With a release schedule of one new camera every 2-3 years it would take a long time to flesh out a 5-camera line. Not only that, but Ooku posted in the last day or two that the KP has been discontinued at about the same time the K-3iii is going to be released, so a two- or three-camera line seems more likely.

02-06-2021, 05:32 AM	#60
Serkevan Site Supporter Join Date: May 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,976	Three cameras sounds reasonable: -Field camera (K-1 line: high resolution FF sensor, Astrotracer as default, extremely rugged up to and including the tilt screen, no focus on speed) -Action camera (K-3 line: high frame rate, compact body, fixed screen, AF improvements appear here first) -Generalist/"amateur" camera. Midrange price, solid performance all around. Not sure if more of a K-90 or a KP2, or even a KP with 24MP full frame sensor, but I'm fairly sure it would continue to be APS-C.