Dear Pentax

**dadipentak** · 10-21-2013, 07:38 PM

Originally posted by Kunzite

With the K-3 I think you can reassign the Fx button as a SR toggle switch.

That would be great!

gazonk · 10-21-2013, 11:51 PM

Originally posted by Kunzite

With the K-3 I think you can reassign the Fx button as a SR toggle switch.

That would be awesome!

Dear Pentax - please offer that as a firmware upgrade for the K-5!

Iberia · 10-22-2013, 01:48 AM

Where's the 24mm f2,8 (35mm equivalent on FF)?

R

ElJamoquio · 10-22-2013, 08:03 AM - **1 Like**

Where's ANY prime between 21 and 31?

I think Pentax realizes (especially with the (vaporware?)) FF camera coming out, that the area between those two primes is too large.

gazonk · 10-23-2013, 10:44 PM

Originally posted by Kunzite

With the K-3 I think you can reassign the Fx button as a SR toggle switch.

Indeed you can (just checked the manual)!

WideOpen · 12-07-2013, 07:35 AM - **1 Like**

Dear Pentax or a sensor manufacturer it may concern,

Stop producing APS-C sensors that are stagnant (or worse) in terms of all-around performance simply to accommodate more pixels. I don't care about having 24 megapixels. In fact, 6 to 10 megapixels would be more enough for just about everything I shoot. That would allow me to make the occasional 10 X 14 print, which I rarely do. Otherwise, I am viewing and reviewing, sharing, etc., the vast majority of my pictures on a monitor, as I suspect 95%+ of shooters are, which means that even 6 to 10 MPs is way too much already! A 32 inch 1080p screen at a few feet away looks pretty darn sharp, and that's just 2 MP.

Why can't a sensor manufacturer make an APS-C sensor proportional to a full-frame offering, such that we can have "full frame" low light capability with an APS-C number of pixels?

In other words, please release a 10 MP "K3-L" that would deliver outstanding all around low light performance. Oh, and please also tinker with the colour settings in your software so that skin tones look good, too. Skin tones look dreadful on Pentax compared to Nikon.

Many thanks in advance.

Boris_Akunin · 12-07-2013, 07:55 AM - **1 Like**

Please copy the one thing that Nikon hasn't done wrong with the Df and sell the FF-Body (if it ever arrives) with a 50mm kit lens (DFA 50/1.2 Limited DC WR ?)

Na Horuk · 12-07-2013, 08:42 AM

Originally posted by WideOpen

In other words, please release a 10 MP "K3-L" that would deliver outstanding all around low light performance. Oh, and please also tinker with the colour settings in your software so that skin tones look good, too. Skin tones look dreadful on Pentax compared to Nikon.

Was this a joke? I mean, do you think Pentax just decides "we should give them really bad low light performance! this will sell well! they dont deserve better anyway!"?
The colour settings.. are you shooting jpeg or raw? If you shoot jpeg, the camera interprets the raw information and turns it into an image. So you need to set the jpeg engine to "portrait". If you shoot raw, then you need to do the colour calibration yourself (or rather, the software does it). I really cannot imagine that Pentax cameras are just "missing" the "good skin tone" pixels. Its the photographer who does that, using light, lenses, and software.

WideOpen · 12-07-2013, 04:49 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Na Horuk

Was this a joke? I mean, do you think Pentax just decides "we should give them really bad low light performance! this will sell well! they dont deserve better anyway!"?
The colour settings.. are you shooting jpeg or raw? If you shoot jpeg, the camera interprets the raw information and turns it into an image. So you need to set the jpeg engine to "portrait". If you shoot raw, then you need to do the colour calibration yourself (or rather, the software does it). I really cannot imagine that Pentax cameras are just "missing" the "good skin tone" pixels. Its the photographer who does that, using light, lenses, and software.

No, this is not a joke.

On the sensor point, image quality would have been better had they stuck with the 16 MP Sony sensor of K5, etc., fame. Clearly, all things being equal, more pixels in a smaller space mean worse noise. So I wish they would not get caught up in the MP race and stick to what matters to (I suspect) the vast majority of users.

On the colour front, I shoot both RAW and Jpeg depending on the circumstances. I usually set WB manually using a grey card. I don't think Pentax renders skin tones very well based on their software presets. I don't want to spend my time screwing around in Photoshop screwing around with colours. For god's sake, I took a portrait of a colleague the other day with their brother's old Nikon D40. With default settings and no adjustments and no fuss, the pictures just looked great. That's what I mean.

Take it easy Pentax apologists.

Na Horuk · 12-07-2013, 05:36 PM

Originally posted by WideOpen

So I wish they would not get caught up in the MP race and stick to what matters to (I suspect) the vast majority of users.

Thats a valid point, I agree. But unfortunately Pentax isn't making the sensor. Thus they depend on the industry and they cannot afford to go counter. And there don't really seem to be very big improvements in sensor technology, apart from incrementally better noise performance. Bit depth and DR hasnt changed much in the past years. MP is apparently the easier thing to improve and market.

About the portraiture.. well I dunno, Ive seen plenty of great portraits taken with Pentax gear. I concede that its possible that the Nikon has a better jpeg engine, but I think the raw data in the Pentax and a similarly priced DSLR of another brand should be in the same ballpark. Processing is very important, even though it is time consuming. I meant no offense by my comment, just really didn't get where you were coming from.

ElJamoquio · 12-08-2013, 09:41 AM

Originally posted by WideOpen

all things being equal, more pixels in a smaller space mean worse noise.

I post-process my pics. More pixels mean more cropping ability. The downside is larger files.

Class A · 01-05-2014, 09:18 AM - **1 Like**

Dear Pentax,

please consider an "Apodisation Simulator" by changing the f-ratio during an exposure.

Normally apodisation -- in order to achieve creamy bokeh -- is achieved by circular graduated density filters in the lens (see the 135 f/2.8 T/4.5 STF lens).

This effect can however be simulated by closing in the aperture during an exposure.

Iberia · 01-05-2014, 02:44 PM

I like the way one can check battery life/capacity on a Canon 7d:

R

Jyrkira · 01-12-2014, 04:11 PM

Please add quick shift mechanism in to the next body. That would convert all our FA and F lenses to quick shift.

bebeka · 01-14-2014, 12:15 PM

Dear Pentax. Please update firmware for K-3 so that it can have choice to shoot with smaller versions of RAW files. Nikons have smaller bitrate. Canon 7D can take 10 MP raw files, option for losless or lossy compression would be nice too. I must say I wasn't too happy that k-3 raw files take 30 MB. Those from my K-5 ar ebig enough for me.
I don't think that imrovement in resolution (only at certain apertures and certain lenses) is really worth increasing file size that much. Of course some people may think different.
I would just like to have the liberty of taking smaller raw files (if that would mean longer bursts that would be a plus too!)

12-07-2013, 07:35 AM - 1 Like	#1206
WideOpen Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ottawa, ON Photos: Gallery Posts: 38	Aps-c Dear Pentax or a sensor manufacturer it may concern, Stop producing APS-C sensors that are stagnant (or worse) in terms of all-around performance simply to accommodate more pixels. I don't care about having 24 megapixels. In fact, 6 to 10 megapixels would be more enough for just about everything I shoot. That would allow me to make the occasional 10 X 14 print, which I rarely do. Otherwise, I am viewing and reviewing, sharing, etc., the vast majority of my pictures on a monitor, as I suspect 95%+ of shooters are, which means that even 6 to 10 MPs is way too much already! A 32 inch 1080p screen at a few feet away looks pretty darn sharp, and that's just 2 MP. Why can't a sensor manufacturer make an APS-C sensor proportional to a full-frame offering, such that we can have "full frame" low light capability with an APS-C number of pixels? In other words, please release a 10 MP "K3-L" that would deliver outstanding all around low light performance. Oh, and please also tinker with the colour settings in your software so that skin tones look good, too. Skin tones look dreadful on Pentax compared to Nikon. Many thanks in advance.

01-05-2014, 09:18 AM - 1 Like	#1212
Class A Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 11,251	Apodisation Simulator Dear Pentax, please consider an "Apodisation Simulator" by changing the f-ratio during an exposure. Normally apodisation -- in order to achieve creamy bokeh -- is achieved by circular graduated density filters in the lens (see the 135 f/2.8 T/4.5 STF lens). This effect can however be simulated by closing in the aperture during an exposure.

01-05-2014, 02:44 PM	#1213
Iberia Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 135	I like the way one can check battery life/capacity on a Canon 7d: R Last edited by Iberia; 01-05-2014 at 02:44 PM. Reason: rephrased for clarity

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10-21-2013, 07:38 PM	#1201
dadipentak Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Baltimore, Maryland Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,590	Originally posted by Kunzite With the K-3 I think you can reassign the Fx button as a SR toggle switch. That would be great!

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gazonk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oslo area, Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,746	Originally posted by Kunzite With the K-3 I think you can reassign the Fx button as a SR toggle switch. That would be awesome! Dear Pentax - please offer that as a firmware upgrade for the K-5!

10-22-2013, 01:48 AM	#1203
Iberia Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 135	Where's the 24mm f2,8 (35mm equivalent on FF)? R

10-22-2013, 08:03 AM - 1 Like	#1204
ElJamoquio Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,873	Where's ANY prime between 21 and 31? I think Pentax realizes (especially with the (vaporware?)) FF camera coming out, that the area between those two primes is too large.

10-23-2013, 10:44 PM	#1205
gazonk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oslo area, Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,746	Originally posted by Kunzite With the K-3 I think you can reassign the Fx button as a SR toggle switch. Indeed you can (just checked the manual)!

12-07-2013, 07:55 AM - 1 Like	#1207
Boris_Akunin Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Bremen, Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 674	Please copy the one thing that Nikon hasn't done wrong with the Df and sell the FF-Body (if it ever arrives) with a 50mm kit lens (DFA 50/1.2 Limited DC WR ?)

12-07-2013, 08:42 AM	#1208
Na Horuk Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Slovenia, probably Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,186	Originally posted by WideOpen In other words, please release a 10 MP "K3-L" that would deliver outstanding all around low light performance. Oh, and please also tinker with the colour settings in your software so that skin tones look good, too. Skin tones look dreadful on Pentax compared to Nikon. Was this a joke? I mean, do you think Pentax just decides "we should give them really bad low light performance! this will sell well! they dont deserve better anyway!"? The colour settings.. are you shooting jpeg or raw? If you shoot jpeg, the camera interprets the raw information and turns it into an image. So you need to set the jpeg engine to "portrait". If you shoot raw, then you need to do the colour calibration yourself (or rather, the software does it). I really cannot imagine that Pentax cameras are just "missing" the "good skin tone" pixels. Its the photographer who does that, using light, lenses, and software.

12-07-2013, 04:49 PM - 1 Like	#1209
WideOpen Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ottawa, ON Photos: Gallery Posts: 38	Originally posted by Na Horuk Was this a joke? I mean, do you think Pentax just decides "we should give them really bad low light performance! this will sell well! they dont deserve better anyway!"? The colour settings.. are you shooting jpeg or raw? If you shoot jpeg, the camera interprets the raw information and turns it into an image. So you need to set the jpeg engine to "portrait". If you shoot raw, then you need to do the colour calibration yourself (or rather, the software does it). I really cannot imagine that Pentax cameras are just "missing" the "good skin tone" pixels. Its the photographer who does that, using light, lenses, and software. No, this is not a joke. On the sensor point, image quality would have been better had they stuck with the 16 MP Sony sensor of K5, etc., fame. Clearly, all things being equal, more pixels in a smaller space mean worse noise. So I wish they would not get caught up in the MP race and stick to what matters to (I suspect) the vast majority of users. On the colour front, I shoot both RAW and Jpeg depending on the circumstances. I usually set WB manually using a grey card. I don't think Pentax renders skin tones very well based on their software presets. I don't want to spend my time screwing around in Photoshop screwing around with colours. For god's sake, I took a portrait of a colleague the other day with their brother's old Nikon D40. With default settings and no adjustments and no fuss, the pictures just looked great. That's what I mean. Take it easy Pentax apologists.

12-07-2013, 05:36 PM	#1210
Na Horuk Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Slovenia, probably Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,186	Originally posted by WideOpen So I wish they would not get caught up in the MP race and stick to what matters to (I suspect) the vast majority of users. Thats a valid point, I agree. But unfortunately Pentax isn't making the sensor. Thus they depend on the industry and they cannot afford to go counter. And there don't really seem to be very big improvements in sensor technology, apart from incrementally better noise performance. Bit depth and DR hasnt changed much in the past years. MP is apparently the easier thing to improve and market. About the portraiture.. well I dunno, Ive seen plenty of great portraits taken with Pentax gear. I concede that its possible that the Nikon has a better jpeg engine, but I think the raw data in the Pentax and a similarly priced DSLR of another brand should be in the same ballpark. Processing is very important, even though it is time consuming. I meant no offense by my comment, just really didn't get where you were coming from.

12-08-2013, 09:41 AM	#1211
ElJamoquio Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,873	Originally posted by WideOpen all things being equal, more pixels in a smaller space mean worse noise. I post-process my pics. More pixels mean more cropping ability. The downside is larger files.

01-12-2014, 04:11 PM	#1214
Jyrkira Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Finland Posts: 215	Please add quick shift mechanism in to the next body. That would convert all our FA and F lenses to quick shift.

01-14-2014, 12:15 PM	#1215
bebeka Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Photos: Gallery Posts: 58	Dear Pentax. Please update firmware for K-3 so that it can have choice to shoot with smaller versions of RAW files. Nikons have smaller bitrate. Canon 7D can take 10 MP raw files, option for losless or lossy compression would be nice too. I must say I wasn't too happy that k-3 raw files take 30 MB. Those from my K-5 ar ebig enough for me. I don't think that imrovement in resolution (only at certain apertures and certain lenses) is really worth increasing file size that much. Of course some people may think different. I would just like to have the liberty of taking smaller raw files (if that would mean longer bursts that would be a plus too!)