not finding any info on whether the KP has dual SD cards or not

**monochrome** · 01-25-2017, 06:47 PM

Originally posted by mee

But the K-3ii costs less and offers more features than the KP..

The K-3ll replacement will align the feature AND price tiers.

**monochrome** · 01-25-2017, 06:53 PM

Originally posted by Rondec

The thing I don't understand is the pricing. A four camera line up should be price at something like 550/700/900/1200. And I'm not even sure if this camera is better than the K70. In some ways it is, in others it isn't. It has a grip capability, which hearkens back to the K200 as a mid range camera with a grip capability, but then the buffer and 1/6000 shutter speed seem more mid level.

Then, release it at a little over 1000 dollars price and it feels over price by at least a hundred dollars.

I don't know. Who would get this camera over either a K70 or a K3 III?

Exactly. Either they priced it wrong like Q and K-01 or maybe they're moving the entire price structure up so in next models (K-3 replacement) they can address video, buffer, frame rate and . . . AF.

noelpolar · 01-25-2017, 07:01 PM

Originally posted by monochrome

or maybe they're moving the entire price structure up so in next models (K-3 replacement) they can address video, buffer, frame rate and . . . AF.

I think we are in the middle of a price/range restructuring as this implies. The capability of the next premuim APSC will determine how close it can go to K-1 price....I'd expect it to be about 75-80% or so.

The KP would make a nice travel "compromise" camera... just needed GPS (whilst keeping a flash)

lightbox · 01-25-2017, 07:13 PM - **1 Like**

I think it's not a 4-tier lineup they have currently. It's a 3-tier line for APS-C, and still only 1-tier for FF.

Even if the K-1 does offer better technology than the K-3II (currently) it is a different format. It should not be seen as a step above K-3, IMO. It should be seen as a different camera system with compatible lens mounts.

bobdobbs · 01-25-2017, 08:06 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by noelpolar

I think we are in the middle of a price/range restructuring as this implies. The capability of the next premuim APSC will determine how close it can go to K-1 price....I'd expect it to be about 75-80% or so.

The KP would make a nice travel "compromise" camera... just needed GPS (whilst keeping a flash)

I think the take-away here is the K-3II is a relative bargain at its current price, and we'll only see that once its replacement is announced.

noelpolar · 01-25-2017, 08:42 PM

Originally posted by bobdobbs

I think the take-away here is the K-3II is a relative bargain at its current price, and we'll only see that once its replacement is announced.

In the US market.... not so much here.

Adam · 01-25-2017, 09:31 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Racer X 69

So the Theta isn't a camera?

Not a DSLR.

Originally posted by Racer X 69

So how about the 645Z?

And not K-mount!

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automorphism · 01-25-2017, 09:41 PM

I think it really depends on the sensor performance. I guess we'll just have to wait and see how good it really is.

**LaurenOE** · 01-25-2017, 09:54 PM

Originally posted by onlineflyer

This might help.

http://www.adorama.com/alc/first-look-pentax-kp-enthusiast-dslr-is-speed-dem...m_content=Body

and

PENTAX KP: First Look - YouTube

Err...in the video above he's using a DA 40mm limited...in the RAIN.
Did I miss the memo?
The DA 40mm is NOT WR?

DOH!!!!!

Racer X 69 · 01-26-2017, 01:05 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Adam

Not a DSLR.

And not K-mount!

You guys are a tough crowd!

Sheesh!

**felixkh** · 01-26-2017, 02:38 AM

Originally posted by lightbox

I don't remember which one of the rumor forums and which page it was on, but someone posted a link to some photos of the battery grip. It had an SD card slot in it, but I'm not sure if it was 'live' or just cold storage.

Just for storage.

Cynog Ap Brychan · 01-26-2017, 05:21 AM

Originally posted by LaurenOE

Err...in the video above he's using a DA 40mm limited...in the RAIN.
Did I miss the memo?
The DA 40mm is NOT WR?

I had the very same reaction!

**monochrome** · 01-26-2017, 06:08 AM

Originally posted by felixkh

Just for storage.

Nope. It has the full set of contact pins and can accept either battery.

Cynog Ap Brychan · 01-26-2017, 07:24 AM

Originally posted by monochrome

Nope. It has the full set of contact pins and can accept either battery.

Contact for the battery, yes, but not for the SD card, which was what the query was about.

Electric Eye · 01-26-2017, 07:38 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by mee

But the K-3ii costs less and offers more features than the KP..

Then buy a K3ll !....Pretty simple!

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01-25-2017, 06:47 PM	#16
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by mee But the K-3ii costs less and offers more features than the KP.. The K-3ll replacement will align the feature AND price tiers.

01-25-2017, 06:53 PM	#17
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by Rondec The thing I don't understand is the pricing. A four camera line up should be price at something like 550/700/900/1200. And I'm not even sure if this camera is better than the K70. In some ways it is, in others it isn't. It has a grip capability, which hearkens back to the K200 as a mid range camera with a grip capability, but then the buffer and 1/6000 shutter speed seem more mid level. Then, release it at a little over 1000 dollars price and it feels over price by at least a hundred dollars. I don't know. Who would get this camera over either a K70 or a K3 III? Exactly. Either they priced it wrong like Q and K-01 or maybe they're moving the entire price structure up so in next models (K-3 replacement) they can address video, buffer, frame rate and . . . AF.

01-25-2017, 07:01 PM	#18
noelpolar Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Goolwa, SA Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,310	Originally posted by monochrome or maybe they're moving the entire price structure up so in next models (K-3 replacement) they can address video, buffer, frame rate and . . . AF. I think we are in the middle of a price/range restructuring as this implies. The capability of the next premuim APSC will determine how close it can go to K-1 price....I'd expect it to be about 75-80% or so. The KP would make a nice travel "compromise" camera... just needed GPS (whilst keeping a flash)

01-25-2017, 07:13 PM - 1 Like	#19
lightbox Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 599	I think it's not a 4-tier lineup they have currently. It's a 3-tier line for APS-C, and still only 1-tier for FF. Even if the K-1 does offer better technology than the K-3II (currently) it is a different format. It should not be seen as a step above K-3, IMO. It should be seen as a different camera system with compatible lens mounts.

01-25-2017, 08:06 PM - 1 Like	#20
bobdobbs Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Saigon Posts: 92	Originally posted by noelpolar I think we are in the middle of a price/range restructuring as this implies. The capability of the next premuim APSC will determine how close it can go to K-1 price....I'd expect it to be about 75-80% or so. The KP would make a nice travel "compromise" camera... just needed GPS (whilst keeping a flash) I think the take-away here is the K-3II is a relative bargain at its current price, and we'll only see that once its replacement is announced.

01-25-2017, 08:42 PM	#21
noelpolar Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Goolwa, SA Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,310	Originally posted by bobdobbs I think the take-away here is the K-3II is a relative bargain at its current price, and we'll only see that once its replacement is announced. In the US market.... not so much here.

01-25-2017, 09:31 PM - 1 Like	#22
Adam Administrator Site Webmaster Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Arizona Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 51,595	Originally posted by Racer X 69 So the Theta isn't a camera? Not a DSLR. Originally posted by Racer X 69 So how about the 645Z? And not K-mount! Adam PentaxForums.com Webmaster (Site Usage Guide \| Site Help \| My Photography) PentaxForums.com server and development costs are user-supported. You can help cover these costs by donating or purchasing one of our Pentax eBooks. Or, buy your photo gear from our affiliates, Adorama, B&H Photo, KEH, or Topaz Labs, and get FREE Marketplace access - click here to see how! Trusted Pentax retailers:

01-25-2017, 09:41 PM	#23
automorphism Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Ontario, Canada Photos: Albums Posts: 791	I think it really depends on the sensor performance. I guess we'll just have to wait and see how good it really is.

01-25-2017, 09:54 PM	#24
LaurenOE Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Back in Florida, but worldwide gigs! Photos: Albums Posts: 3,690	Originally posted by onlineflyer This might help. http://www.adorama.com/alc/first-look-pentax-kp-enthusiast-dslr-is-speed-dem...m_content=Body and PENTAX KP: First Look - YouTube Err...in the video above he's using a DA 40mm limited...in the RAIN. Did I miss the memo? The DA 40mm is NOT WR? DOH!!!!!

01-26-2017, 01:05 AM - 1 Like	#25
Racer X 69 Moderator Man With A Camera Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: The Great Pacific Northwet, in the Land Between Canada and Mexico Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,067	Originally posted by Adam Not a DSLR. And not K-mount! You guys are a tough crowd! Sheesh!

01-26-2017, 02:38 AM	#26
felixkh Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Singapore Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,201	Originally posted by lightbox I don't remember which one of the rumor forums and which page it was on, but someone posted a link to some photos of the battery grip. It had an SD card slot in it, but I'm not sure if it was 'live' or just cold storage. Just for storage.

01-26-2017, 05:21 AM	#27
Cynog Ap Brychan Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Gloucester Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,199	Originally posted by LaurenOE Err...in the video above he's using a DA 40mm limited...in the RAIN. Did I miss the memo? The DA 40mm is NOT WR? I had the very same reaction!

01-26-2017, 06:08 AM	#28
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by felixkh Just for storage. Nope. It has the full set of contact pins and can accept either battery.

01-26-2017, 07:24 AM	#29
Cynog Ap Brychan Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Gloucester Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,199	Originally posted by monochrome Nope. It has the full set of contact pins and can accept either battery. Contact for the battery, yes, but not for the SD card, which was what the query was about.

01-26-2017, 07:38 AM - 1 Like	#30
Electric Eye Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 238	Originally posted by mee But the K-3ii costs less and offers more features than the KP.. Then buy a K3ll !....Pretty simple!