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SeaRefractor · 01-26-2017, 01:35 PM

No incremental HD Video improvements over my existing K-70 and I already have an accelerator chip.

lesmore49 · 01-26-2017, 01:55 PM

Hmmmnn. ...I've still got my K-5 (2011 bought new), my K-m (2009 bought new) and my K10D (bought new in 2007)....I like them all, the end product the photograhs are wonderful. I shoot mainly at 80 (K5) to 400 ISO. My K-5 does fine at 800-1600.

I'm thinking of full frame and at this time either the K-1 or the Canon 5D3.

The KP (name reminds me of military duty that you try to avoid) sounds good, but I've got three good ASP-C bodies that touch wood...still do the job. But on the other hand, thanks Ricoh for introducing the new KP. Seems like a very good camera and a good replacement for the K-3ll.

BTW, I don't keep up with all the specs on new cameras these days. Is the KP the replacement for the K3ll ? Have I got that right ?

**BigMackCam** · 01-26-2017, 02:00 PM

Originally posted by lesmore49

Is the KP the replacement for the K3ll ? Have I got that right ?

We're none of us quite certain either way. General opinion suggests it's not a replacement for the K-3II but a new model within the range - which makes some sense given that falls behind the K-3II in some areas (whilst undoubtedly trouncing it on high ISO image quality)...

FantasticMrFox · 01-26-2017, 02:03 PM

Originally posted by BigMackCam

We're none of us quite certain either way. General opinion suggests it's not a replacement for the K-3II but a new model within the range - which makes some sense given that falls behind the K-3II in some areas (whilst undoubtedly trouncing it on high ISO image quality)...

Ricoh says it's not.

**BigMackCam** · 01-26-2017, 02:04 PM

Originally posted by FantasticMrFox

Ricoh says it's not.

Ah, OK - is that official?

FantasticMrFox · 01-26-2017, 02:16 PM

Originally posted by BigMackCam

Ah, OK - is that official?

I commented under their KP post on Facebook, and they replied: "Please note that the KP is not the successor of the K3." I assume they meant the K3 II, because that's the camera I was talking about in my comment.

**BigMackCam** · 01-26-2017, 02:32 PM

Originally posted by FantasticMrFox

I commented under their KP post on Facebook, and they replied: "Please note that the KP is not the successor of the K3." I assume they meant the K3 II, because that's the camera I was talking about in my comment.

That's official enough for me

Thanks for that

lesmore49 · 01-26-2017, 04:02 PM

Originally posted by BigMackCam

We're none of us quite certain either way. General opinion suggests it's not a replacement for the K-3II but a new model within the range - which makes some sense given that falls behind the K-3II in some areas (whilst undoubtedly trouncing it on high ISO image quality)...

Thanks BigMack and Mr Fox . I did read how the KP didn't have a complete magnesium alloy body like a K3ll...just some body panels made of the stuff, which made me think. If Pentax plans to eventually come out with a K3ll successor, that would be excellent. I am pleased to see Ricoh is continuing to pump out new Pentax bodies, gives me some faith in their future.

**Tony Belding** · 01-26-2017, 04:09 PM

Originally posted by normhead

No cheap feeling 24 MP camera that barely out-resolves a K-3 is going to lure me away from my K-1. The world has moved on.

Uhh, not sure what you mean about "cheap feeling", since mine isn't like that at all. And I could have got an A7R if I wanted more pixels, but I didn't because that wasn't of any value to me.

---------- Post added 01-26-17 at 05:11 PM ----------

Originally posted by MarkJerling

So how do you like that pixelly and slow EVF?

I got the Sony A7, which has a very good EVF. Not sure which camera you are thinking of.

My priority was a good experience with manual focus adapted SLR lenses, and I think I got that.

MarkJerling · 01-26-2017, 04:24 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Tony Belding

Uhh, not sure what you mean about "cheap feeling", since mine isn't like that at all. And I could have got an A7R if I wanted more pixels, but I didn't because that wasn't of any value to me.

---------- Post added 01-26-17 at 05:11 PM ----------

I got the Sony A7, which has a very good EVF. Not sure which camera you are thinking of.

My priority was a good experience with manual focus adapted SLR lenses, and I think I got that.

I am speaking of the same camera. I found the EVF terrible. Slow when panning, poor compared with my various SLR's viewfinders. Poor resolution (visible pixels) and not particularly great when moving from bright sunlight to shade either.

**boriscleto** · 01-26-2017, 04:27 PM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by the squirrel mafia

why will i not buy the kp?

It's not the droid that i'm looking for.

Errr..... I mean, it's not the camera that i'm looking for.

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pakinjapan · 01-26-2017, 04:47 PM

Originally posted by D1N0

Imagine how I must feel about the K-3

**NS_Sailor** · 01-26-2017, 04:52 PM - **1 Like**

I won't be buying a KP because the Admiral said I didn't need a new camera I already have 3 and the Admiral wants new outfits for a Caribbean Vacation

**ivanvernon** · 01-26-2017, 05:00 PM

For the moment, I feel that the K-1 and K-3 pretty well put me at the high point of camera features for my amateur use, and I can always fall back to the K-5II as needed.

MarkJerling · 01-26-2017, 05:12 PM

Originally posted by NS_Sailor

I won't be buying a KP because the Admiral said I didn't need a new camera I already have 3 and the Admiral wants new outfits for a Caribbean Vacation

No austerity in the navy then!

01-26-2017, 05:00 PM	#44
ivanvernon Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Medina, OH Photos: Albums Posts: 7,224	Not buying For the moment, I feel that the K-1 and K-3 pretty well put me at the high point of camera features for my amateur use, and I can always fall back to the K-5II as needed.

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01-26-2017, 01:35 PM	#31
SeaRefractor Senior Member $SeaRefractor's Avatar$ Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Normandy Park, WA US Photos: Albums Posts: 117	No incremental HD Video improvements over my existing K-70 and I already have an accelerator chip.

01-26-2017, 01:55 PM	#32
lesmore49 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Western Canada Posts: 12,350	Hmmmnn. ...I've still got my K-5 (2011 bought new), my K-m (2009 bought new) and my K10D (bought new in 2007)....I like them all, the end product the photograhs are wonderful. I shoot mainly at 80 (K5) to 400 ISO. My K-5 does fine at 800-1600. I'm thinking of full frame and at this time either the K-1 or the Canon 5D3. The KP (name reminds me of military duty that you try to avoid) sounds good, but I've got three good ASP-C bodies that touch wood...still do the job. But on the other hand, thanks Ricoh for introducing the new KP. Seems like a very good camera and a good replacement for the K-3ll. BTW, I don't keep up with all the specs on new cameras these days. Is the KP the replacement for the K3ll ? Have I got that right ?

01-26-2017, 02:00 PM	#33
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,704	Originally posted by lesmore49 Is the KP the replacement for the K3ll ? Have I got that right ? We're none of us quite certain either way. General opinion suggests it's not a replacement for the K-3II but a new model within the range - which makes some sense given that falls behind the K-3II in some areas (whilst undoubtedly trouncing it on high ISO image quality)...

01-26-2017, 02:03 PM	#34
FantasticMrFox Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Munich Posts: 2,339	Originally posted by BigMackCam We're none of us quite certain either way. General opinion suggests it's not a replacement for the K-3II but a new model within the range - which makes some sense given that falls behind the K-3II in some areas (whilst undoubtedly trouncing it on high ISO image quality)... Ricoh says it's not.

01-26-2017, 02:04 PM	#35
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,704	Originally posted by FantasticMrFox Ricoh says it's not. Ah, OK - is that official?

01-26-2017, 02:16 PM	#36
FantasticMrFox Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Munich Posts: 2,339	Originally posted by BigMackCam Ah, OK - is that official? I commented under their KP post on Facebook, and they replied: "Please note that the KP is not the successor of the K3." I assume they meant the K3 II, because that's the camera I was talking about in my comment.

01-26-2017, 02:32 PM	#37
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,704	Originally posted by FantasticMrFox I commented under their KP post on Facebook, and they replied: "Please note that the KP is not the successor of the K3." I assume they meant the K3 II, because that's the camera I was talking about in my comment. That's official enough for me Thanks for that

01-26-2017, 04:02 PM	#38
lesmore49 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Western Canada Posts: 12,350	Originally posted by BigMackCam We're none of us quite certain either way. General opinion suggests it's not a replacement for the K-3II but a new model within the range - which makes some sense given that falls behind the K-3II in some areas (whilst undoubtedly trouncing it on high ISO image quality)... Thanks BigMack and Mr Fox . I did read how the KP didn't have a complete magnesium alloy body like a K3ll...just some body panels made of the stuff, which made me think. If Pentax plans to eventually come out with a K3ll successor, that would be excellent. I am pleased to see Ricoh is continuing to pump out new Pentax bodies, gives me some faith in their future.

01-26-2017, 04:09 PM	#39
Tony Belding Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Hamilton, Texas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 787	Originally posted by normhead No cheap feeling 24 MP camera that barely out-resolves a K-3 is going to lure me away from my K-1. The world has moved on. Uhh, not sure what you mean about "cheap feeling", since mine isn't like that at all. And I could have got an A7R if I wanted more pixels, but I didn't because that wasn't of any value to me. ---------- Post added 01-26-17 at 05:11 PM ---------- Originally posted by MarkJerling So how do you like that pixelly and slow EVF? I got the Sony A7, which has a very good EVF. Not sure which camera you are thinking of. My priority was a good experience with manual focus adapted SLR lenses, and I think I got that.

01-26-2017, 04:24 PM - 1 Like	#40
MarkJerling Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: May 2012 Location: Wairarapa, New Zealand Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 20,423	Originally posted by Tony Belding Uhh, not sure what you mean about "cheap feeling", since mine isn't like that at all. And I could have got an A7R if I wanted more pixels, but I didn't because that wasn't of any value to me. ---------- Post added 01-26-17 at 05:11 PM ---------- I got the Sony A7, which has a very good EVF. Not sure which camera you are thinking of. My priority was a good experience with manual focus adapted SLR lenses, and I think I got that. I am speaking of the same camera. I found the EVF terrible. Slow when panning, poor compared with my various SLR's viewfinders. Poor resolution (visible pixels) and not particularly great when moving from bright sunlight to shade either.

01-26-2017, 04:27 PM - 3 Likes	#41
boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,477	Originally posted by the squirrel mafia why will i not buy the kp? It's not the droid that i'm looking for. Errr..... I mean, it's not the camera that i'm looking for.

01-26-2017, 04:47 PM	#42
pakinjapan Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Tokyo Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,041	Originally posted by D1N0 Imagine how I must feel about the K-3

01-26-2017, 04:52 PM - 1 Like	#43
NS_Sailor Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Dartmouth Nova Scotia Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,020	I won't be buying a KP because the Admiral said I didn't need a new camera I already have 3 and the Admiral wants new outfits for a Caribbean Vacation

01-26-2017, 05:12 PM	#45
MarkJerling Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: May 2012 Location: Wairarapa, New Zealand Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 20,423	Originally posted by NS_Sailor I won't be buying a KP because the Admiral said I didn't need a new camera I already have 3 and the Admiral wants new outfits for a Caribbean Vacation No austerity in the navy then!

Why I won't buy a KP.

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