Why I WILL buy a KP!

pcake · 02-07-2017, 11:19 PM

i'm thinking likely - will rent one in a month or two and see how it feels. the only high ISO pics i've seen looked REALLY great (thanks, pihe !), and if ricoh really did improve autofocus and stabilization as claimed, that would be a big win for me. love the pentax OVFs, and another big plus it has 2 dials. i would have rather had a fully articulated screen, but i can live with a tilting screen - i had one for a couple years on my a6000.

LoneWolf · 02-09-2017, 09:12 AM

Very disppointed to see that the Camera is not sold with a paper reference manual in the UK. For many it is not a luxury. They are also a lot easier to browse. Smart devices are all very well but you do not always have them to hand. Also what happens when you cannot get a signal?

Looks like I will have add another £10 + to purchase one from Old Timer Cameras when they become available to an already expensive camera. "Perhaps I better think it out again". ("Reviewing the Situation" – Fagin, Oliver the Musical)

**lithedreamer** · 02-09-2017, 01:33 PM

Originally posted by LoneWolf

Very disppointed to see that the Camera is not sold with a paper reference manual in the UK. For many it is not a luxury. They are also a lot easier to browse. Smart devices are all very well but you do not always have them to hand. Also what happens when you cannot get a signal?

Looks like I will have add another £10 + to purchase one from Old Timer Cameras when they become available to an already expensive camera. "Perhaps I better think it out again". ("Reviewing the Situation" – Fagin, Oliver the Musical)

I'm a fan of paper manuals too, but you should only have to download the manual once, so signal shouldn't be a huge issue.

StephenHampshire · 02-09-2017, 01:39 PM

Originally posted by Foxbat

I know, but it has 3 Fx buttons and I'm planning to assign AE Lock to the Fx1 (the one on the mirror box, just above AF mode selector button), and set AF/AE-lock as a AF only button.

Pentax KP - High ISO Samples

Can you do that? One of my gripes gone if you can, as I am a back button AF man

Foxbat · 02-09-2017, 01:51 PM

Originally posted by StephenHampshire

Can you do that? One of my gripes gone if you can, as I am a back button AF man

Yes you can, see pages 102 - 103 in KP operating manual.

StephenHampshire · 02-09-2017, 04:08 PM

Originally posted by Foxbat

Yes you can, see pages 102 - 103 in KP operating manual.

Thanks, definitely a good idea. My K3 has very limited options for button optimisation (although it does have separate AF and AE-L buttons)

LightBug · 02-09-2017, 11:10 PM

Originally posted by LoneWolf

Very disppointed to see that the Camera is not sold with a paper reference manual in the UK. For many it is not a luxury. They are also a lot easier to browse. Smart devices are all very well but you do not always have them to hand. Also what happens when you cannot get a signal?

Looks like I will have add another £10 + to purchase one from Old Timer Cameras when they become available to an already expensive camera. "Perhaps I better think it out again". ("Reviewing the Situation" – Fagin, Oliver the Musical)

I'm used to reading manuals on my computer, and I do not recall reading any camera manual since my K-x. Most features are pretty self-explanatory since I have been in the Pentax system for a while now. Just think, if they do not print manuals, no need to waste resource producing paper, it's better for the environment

pcake · 02-10-2017, 12:00 AM

i prefer manuals on my computer as they're highly searchable, and you can always bring one along on your phone or print the pages you need.

**savoche** · 02-10-2017, 01:40 AM - **1 Like**

I'm most probably not going to buy a KP, but I like what I see (provided that the new front wheel works as well as the old style wheels). If we get a K-3 successor with the same trickle-down of features from the K-1 it will be very hard to resist that one.

Ricoh is on the right track.

zmohie · 02-15-2017, 10:03 AM

It will replace my k5iis.
My k1 is heavy to carry everywhere and the K3 series also heavy and I didn't like its outputs jpeg file and handling noise.
I like the retro-DSLR look of KP.
Maybe it is not what I waited for as a successor to k01 but its look is nice.
I have many da ltds lenses that they will match the camera well.

derrenhodson · 02-15-2017, 10:57 AM - **1 Like**

I'm hoping to purchase a KP, hopefully I will get to see it at the Photography Show in Birmingham UK next month. The KP with the HD Limited lenses looks just as good as the Fuji stuff and at slightly cheaper prices.

gm4life · 02-15-2017, 07:14 PM

Originally posted by derrenhodson

The KP with the HD Limited lenses looks just as good as the Fuji stuff and at slightly cheaper prices.

Truer words were never spoken!

troika · 02-16-2017, 04:20 PM

I got to handle one today along with a K1 and a 645z. It was pre-production, so they weren't allowing sample photos to leave the store. I did take a few photos with my phone for size comparison. Sorry for the perspective, I don't usually take pictures with my phone.

KP w/ 40mm 2.8 ltd left ----- My K5ii w/ 70 2.4 ltd right

and here's one with their big brother, the K1

---------- Post added 02-16-17 at 04:02 PM ----------

So impressions:

The KP didn't feel all that much smaller than my K5ii. The K1 didn't feel all that much larger than my K5ii, though both clearly are. I think you'd have to carry one around for a day or a week or pack for a trip before you really appreciated the size difference. (At least based on my experience today)

The KP is well constructed, just like the other two cameras in this shot. I will say this about it. One of the things that I was reminded of holding it, though is what drew me to the K5. I like that the 3 corners of the exposure triangle are all clear and accessible with external controls and without the screen. Because there is no top LCD and because the controls are so customization, they aren't marked and I felt confused holding it as to how to start my process. I'm sure if I owned it I could set it up exactly the way I wanted and never think about it again, but it didn't like home holding it. So, retro aesthetic, but not in that respect retro sensibilities.

Probably something that would just require a little adjustment for me and then never be a problem, but I kept picking up the K1 which wasn't really on my mind before.

DebLewis · 02-24-2017, 11:13 AM

I've been waiting for the right time to move up from the K-30 and I think the K-P is the ticket.. a nice upgrade in a smaller/lighter package.. and from reviews it should be much quieter as well.. not to mention all the spec upgrades... I think the KP will be a good little camera to last me for awhile... just ordered and should get it by Tues..

Elliot · 02-24-2017, 01:15 PM

I will buy a KP because it produces RAW files in DNG format so that I won't have to upgrade my software.

02-15-2017, 10:57 AM - 1 Like	#41
derrenhodson Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 37	KP for Street Photography I'm hoping to purchase a KP, hopefully I will get to see it at the Photography Show in Birmingham UK next month. The KP with the HD Limited lenses looks just as good as the Fuji stuff and at slightly cheaper prices.

02-16-2017, 04:20 PM	#43
troika Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Seattle, WA USA Posts: 1,753	I got to handle one today along with a K1 and a 645z. It was pre-production, so they weren't allowing sample photos to leave the store. I did take a few photos with my phone for size comparison. Sorry for the perspective, I don't usually take pictures with my phone. KP w/ 40mm 2.8 ltd left ----- My K5ii w/ 70 2.4 ltd right and here's one with their big brother, the K1 ---------- Post added 02-16-17 at 04:02 PM ---------- So impressions: The KP didn't feel all that much smaller than my K5ii. The K1 didn't feel all that much larger than my K5ii, though both clearly are. I think you'd have to carry one around for a day or a week or pack for a trip before you really appreciated the size difference. (At least based on my experience today) The KP is well constructed, just like the other two cameras in this shot. I will say this about it. One of the things that I was reminded of holding it, though is what drew me to the K5. I like that the 3 corners of the exposure triangle are all clear and accessible with external controls and without the screen. Because there is no top LCD and because the controls are so customization, they aren't marked and I felt confused holding it as to how to start my process. I'm sure if I owned it I could set it up exactly the way I wanted and never think about it again, but it didn't like home holding it. So, retro aesthetic, but not in that respect retro sensibilities. Probably something that would just require a little adjustment for me and then never be a problem, but I kept picking up the K1 which wasn't really on my mind before. Last edited by troika; 02-16-2017 at 04:49 PM.

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02-07-2017, 11:19 PM	#31
pcake Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 36	i'm thinking likely - will rent one in a month or two and see how it feels. the only high ISO pics i've seen looked REALLY great (thanks, pihe !), and if ricoh really did improve autofocus and stabilization as claimed, that would be a big win for me. love the pentax OVFs, and another big plus it has 2 dials. i would have rather had a fully articulated screen, but i can live with a tilting screen - i had one for a couple years on my a6000.

02-09-2017, 09:12 AM	#32
LoneWolf Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 141	Very disppointed to see that the Camera is not sold with a paper reference manual in the UK. For many it is not a luxury. They are also a lot easier to browse. Smart devices are all very well but you do not always have them to hand. Also what happens when you cannot get a signal? Looks like I will have add another £10 + to purchase one from Old Timer Cameras when they become available to an already expensive camera. "Perhaps I better think it out again". ("Reviewing the Situation" – Fagin, Oliver the Musical)

02-09-2017, 01:33 PM	#33
lithedreamer Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2013 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,799	Originally posted by LoneWolf Very disppointed to see that the Camera is not sold with a paper reference manual in the UK. For many it is not a luxury. They are also a lot easier to browse. Smart devices are all very well but you do not always have them to hand. Also what happens when you cannot get a signal? Looks like I will have add another £10 + to purchase one from Old Timer Cameras when they become available to an already expensive camera. "Perhaps I better think it out again". ("Reviewing the Situation" – Fagin, Oliver the Musical) I'm a fan of paper manuals too, but you should only have to download the manual once, so signal shouldn't be a huge issue.

02-09-2017, 01:39 PM	#34
StephenHampshire Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Winchester Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,523	Originally posted by Foxbat I know, but it has 3 Fx buttons and I'm planning to assign AE Lock to the Fx1 (the one on the mirror box, just above AF mode selector button), and set AF/AE-lock as a AF only button. Pentax KP - High ISO Samples Can you do that? One of my gripes gone if you can, as I am a back button AF man

02-09-2017, 01:51 PM	#35
Foxbat Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 66	Originally posted by StephenHampshire Can you do that? One of my gripes gone if you can, as I am a back button AF man Yes you can, see pages 102 - 103 in KP operating manual.

02-09-2017, 04:08 PM	#36
StephenHampshire Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Winchester Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,523	Originally posted by Foxbat Yes you can, see pages 102 - 103 in KP operating manual. Thanks, definitely a good idea. My K3 has very limited options for button optimisation (although it does have separate AF and AE-L buttons)

02-09-2017, 11:10 PM	#37
LightBug Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: OC, CA, USA Posts: 506	Originally posted by LoneWolf Very disppointed to see that the Camera is not sold with a paper reference manual in the UK. For many it is not a luxury. They are also a lot easier to browse. Smart devices are all very well but you do not always have them to hand. Also what happens when you cannot get a signal? Looks like I will have add another £10 + to purchase one from Old Timer Cameras when they become available to an already expensive camera. "Perhaps I better think it out again". ("Reviewing the Situation" – Fagin, Oliver the Musical) I'm used to reading manuals on my computer, and I do not recall reading any camera manual since my K-x. Most features are pretty self-explanatory since I have been in the Pentax system for a while now. Just think, if they do not print manuals, no need to waste resource producing paper, it's better for the environment

02-10-2017, 12:00 AM	#38
pcake Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 36	i prefer manuals on my computer as they're highly searchable, and you can always bring one along on your phone or print the pages you need.

02-10-2017, 01:40 AM - 1 Like	#39
savoche Master of the obvious Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Lowlands of Norway Posts: 18,311	I'm most probably not going to buy a KP, but I like what I see (provided that the new front wheel works as well as the old style wheels). If we get a K-3 successor with the same trickle-down of features from the K-1 it will be very hard to resist that one. Ricoh is on the right track.

02-15-2017, 10:03 AM	#40
zmohie Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: egypt Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 435	It will replace my k5iis. My k1 is heavy to carry everywhere and the K3 series also heavy and I didn't like its outputs jpeg file and handling noise. I like the retro-DSLR look of KP. Maybe it is not what I waited for as a successor to k01 but its look is nice. I have many da ltds lenses that they will match the camera well.

02-15-2017, 07:14 PM	#42
gm4life Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Posts: 602	Originally posted by derrenhodson The KP with the HD Limited lenses looks just as good as the Fuji stuff and at slightly cheaper prices. Truer words were never spoken!

02-24-2017, 11:13 AM	#44
DebLewis Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: San Diego, CA Photos: Gallery Posts: 34	I've been waiting for the right time to move up from the K-30 and I think the K-P is the ticket.. a nice upgrade in a smaller/lighter package.. and from reviews it should be much quieter as well.. not to mention all the spec upgrades... I think the KP will be a good little camera to last me for awhile... just ordered and should get it by Tues..

02-24-2017, 01:15 PM	#45
Elliot Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: South Carolina Photos: Gallery Posts: 281	I will buy a KP because it produces RAW files in DNG format so that I won't have to upgrade my software.