Originally posted by Foxbat So, in the end, form over matter.
You mean form over function? No! This is all about function. It's a different approach that's all.
You want all your usual controls and functions - well you have them already in the K-3ii, the K70, the K-1. This is a complimentary notion, that goes back to a more standard approach to exposure control. You need 1/3 stop shutter speeds? Plenty of cameras can do that. But the whole world got by just fine without them for decades and many still do. Even a whole stop under or over exposed these days amounts to a fraction of a second correction in PP. I don't personally need it and I'd say leave it out in this concept. As for user modes. They annoy the hell out of me personally, since I need to remember what the hell I set them all to. I guess I'm just more of a show-me-hands-on guy. Horses for courses.
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Originally posted by reh321 Yeah, that sounds like retro thinking alright. My Super Program didn't have modes - each setting had modes, and the overall mode was the combination of the various modes. If I wanted what we call "M" mode today, I would set the f-stop on the lens ring and the shutter speed on the body; if I wanted what we call "P" mode today, I would set the lens ring to "A" and the body to "auto". I'm not sure I see this as better than what we have today, because you had to look at all the little pieces to see the big picture. If Pentax wanted to go back to that, they'd have to issue a whole new set of lenses with aperture rings, and with the KAF4 mount, that would mean aperture-by-wire. My opinion is that they'd be better off putting that energy into more full-frame lenses.
Doesn't require any lens re-working. Legacy lenses with aperture rings could be rigged to work the old way. If no ring present the camera takes over. Not so hard.
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Originally posted by Wheatfield If you've been around cameras longer than 15 or so years, "retro" is like meeting an old friend that you haven't seen for a very long time.
Pick up a Fuji XT-1 or XT-2. If you've ever used a full mode film camera, the Fuji is one of the most ergonomic interfaces you could ask for.
You got it.
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Originally posted by awscreo They can't possibly be aiming only at long time photographers, that's just cutting down your already small share of the market.
People keep coming up with this fallacy.
I'm not saying replace the K-1, K3 ii and K-70 with retro-dialled cameras. No! They exist, they remain. I am saying along side, offer something a little different, because the line up looks a little overbaked to me. All looking a little too similar... It's called diversification.
This has the opposite effect to what you are saying. It expands the potential user base by appealing to a broader church. What is difficult about this concept? It doe not just appeal to old time photographers. Young students still learn on K1000s believe it or not!! And they love the real feel of old cameras. Haven't you seen the whole 'hipster' movement? Furthermore, the concept is proven, with the very substantial success Fujifilm are having with this concept. It's not a wild shot in the dark!!!
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Originally posted by caliscouser Then K70/K3ii is the camera for you, for others it will be KP and for others still it will be the K3ii successor. In other words something for everyone, and that's exactly the point.
Horses for courses. But currently, the "Why I will buy a KP" has 12 replies. I don't know how many of them are satirical, but the "Why I won't buy a KP" currently has 89 replies.