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02-16-2017, 11:13 AM   #1
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KP Capabilities vis-a-vis the K3/ii

Does anyone know of any capabilities that the K3/ii has the the KP won't, besides a bigger buffer and faster continuous shooting? Wondering what conveniences the K3/ii has that you'd give up for the KP (excluding the top LCD).

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Flagship external buttons and control set versus shared buttons, two touch controls.
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Good point.

I'm particularly interested in the loss of premium shooting capabilities, such as if the K-3 could do 5-image bracketing but the KP only 3 (although that's not the case).

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Flagship external buttons and control set versus shared buttons, two touch controls.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Spodeworld Quote
Good point.

I'm particularly interested in the loss of premium shooting capabilities, such as if the K-3 could do 5-image bracketing but the KP only 3 (although that's not the case).
The final KP manual is available for download. I have a K-1, so I'm doing my best to resist the temptation to buy a KP. It looks to me it will be a really great camera though - just a bit bigger than a K-01 (not counting the prism hump).

The focus bracketing looks interesting.

KP seems to be a unique combination of new features and standard hardware, so evaluate if the particular blend suits your needs.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Spodeworld Quote
Does anyone know of any capabilities that the K3/ii has the the KP won't, besides a bigger buffer and faster continuous shooting? Wondering what conveniences the K3/ii has that you'd give up for the KP (excluding the top LCD).
Dual cards. My K3 / K3II have dual cards, my Hasselblad HV has dual cards, my A7II doesn't and it bothers me...

Also, no IR port on the KP. Just the other day, I was using my IR to trigger my Pentax Q7 for some product photography. I know the KP will support wired remote, but I find the IR remote very convenient.
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So, outside of:
1. More buttons (feature more than capability)
2. Bigger buffer
3. Faster continuous shooting
4. IR ports (feature more than capability)
5. Dual card slots (feature more than capability)
6. Bigger battery (feature more than capability)

Does the K3 support capabilities that the KP doesn't appear to have or have, but less so?

For example, if I think back to my K30 vs my K3, the K30 could do 3 exposure bracketing but my K3 could do 5. I'm looking for those kind of capability differences.
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How 'bout:
larger back LCD,
USB 3 instead of USB 2,
1/8000 top shutter speed (compared to 1/6000),
and hyper program, hyper manual, and X-sync modes?


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Many features enable user capability.
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The KP is not the replacement of the K3 series
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Have you checked the camera comparison tool: Pentax KP vs. Pentax K-70 vs. Pentax K-1 - Pentax Camera Comparison - PentaxForums.com

Off hand that I haven't seen mentioned above, the Kp has a weaker built in flash. That's compared to the k3. Compared to the k3ii, the kp's flash is much stronger (no gps on the kp of course)

QuoteOriginally posted by monochrome Quote
The focus bracketing looks interesting.
The Depth of Field bracketing? Definitely a nice idea (and motion bracketing), but it's not what I'd like 'focus bracketing' to be - I'd want it to adjust the focus to in front and behind where I'd set it and take a photo at the different focusing distances (AF lens only of course). Or even better let me program a sequence of focusing steps for it to use... that'd be grand.

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Yes, the DoF bracketing

I suppose one could focus bracket with a manual lens and stack the images but I'm not that good.
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I've put together about half of what I need so far for the KP. Dang taxes. . . I promised my wife no more big spending on my hobby till the fall unless I do so from money made on it either from selling gear or fee-paying customers. One sitting fee and two older lenses sold. I think I'll have more success with selling gear tho.
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QuoteOriginally posted by THoog Quote
How 'bout:
larger back LCD,
USB 3 instead of USB 2,
1/8000 top shutter speed (compared to 1/6000),
and hyper program, hyper manual, and X-sync modes?
PC flash sync
P-TTL Wireless Master
Headphone terminal

OTOH...custom image modes are no longer on the 4-way controller!!!


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Thanks. Good feedback.

Seems like the KP has a lot to offer, and some very notable improvements over its predecessors. But, it's good to know ahead of time what's not there too so if you invest in one you won't be unpleasantly surprised after the fact when something you expected to be there isn't.
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I find the ergonomics of the KP to look very appealing. As a DA Ltd shooter this camera looks like it was designed for me. The low light capability is terrific but my tripod is my tool for shooting in low light. The three things that are making me gravitate toward the K-3II as an upgrade to my K-5II are:
- K-3II shutter life 200,000 actuations (versus 100,000 for KP).
- Larger continuous shooting buffer on the K-3II.
- Price; the K-3II is considerable cheaper and I could put the difference toward a HD DA 35 Ltd.
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