"L" Bracket for KP...

jules · 04-07-2017, 08:36 AM

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Might as well get this one rolling along, early days yet, I know. Contacted Sunwayfoto and Kirk I think it was but they arn't planning anything, from what they tell me, so is there anything out there on the horizon? Is there a long body plate that anyone knows about that when you attach it to camera actually doesn't shift under load, not an "L" bracket I know but it might do, any intel guys?

C_Jones · 04-07-2017, 10:56 AM

I use the following L plate with my K-3II and K-5IIs. It has cushions on the base and a D ring screw for securing to the camera.

https://www.amazon.com/Fotasy-LPM-Universal-Release-Cleaning/dp/B00W995BM2/r...ywords=l-plate

jules · 04-08-2017, 09:47 PM

@C_Jones

Originally posted by C_Jones

I use the following L plate with my K-3II and K-5IIs. It has cushions on the base and a D ring screw for securing to the camera.

amazon.com : Fotasy LPM Universal L Quick Release Plate Bracket for Arca Swiss Type Tripod Ball Head with Premier Cleaning Cloth (Black) : Camera & Photo?tag=pentaxforums-20&

Does it twist about at all, concerend with that with a generic plate, without a lip for the camera base, will twist under load in vertical compositions with something like a 50-135mm on?
It looks like you lose access to the battery, is that correct?
Side access looks good though...

**ashurbanipal** · 04-12-2017, 07:44 PM

I use this one with my K-30; not sure how much the dimensions on the KP differ, but I would imagine it should work:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00S1MI6L4/ref=dp_cerb_1?tag=pentaxforums-20&

Doesn't twist since it has a (removable) stop. I did add a thin layer of cork (the self-adhesive kind intended to line shelves/drawers). Primarily because my camera's white and I was worried (needlessly, it turns out) about scratching it, but I imagine you could skip that step. I haven't seen the bottom of the KP, but the plate does block the battery door on the K-30. However, it's only partially blocked, so I can loosen the plate slightly and twist it out of the way to change the battery without removing the plate entirely. I haven't seen a KP in person, so not sure how the battery door compares. Using the middle hole to mount to the camera, there's just over 39mm from the tripod hole to the edge of the plate, which is about 5mm too long. As far as support goes, it does fine in vertical orientation with the 55-300 or my old Sigma 105 macro, which are the heaviest lenses I've used it with. Looks like the 50-135 is another 200g or so; if I had that lens I'd certainly try it with this plate and would be surprised if it didn't hold up. Hope that helps!

--Steve

jules · 04-15-2017, 10:34 PM

And it's Sunwayfoto, which is always good!

jules · 05-10-2017, 02:18 PM

I've emailed Sunwayfoto, Kirk and RRS and I have been informed that none of em intend to make a KP specific "L" Bracket, anyone know, anyone who might? I don't want something too generic that gets in the way of battery doors etc but something dedicated to the body, it's likely to be around for a while, even though it may comparitively sell less, maybe the Koreans???

**BruceBanner** · 10-23-2017, 05:27 PM

I'm gonna start looking into this. Discovered today that the generic L Plate I use for my K-1 (which I modified slightly so that I can access the battery compartment fine) doesn't actually work very well at all with the KP. I mean it works, it fits nicely, you just can't open the battery compartment. In practice I think I won't find it a big deal, it's not hard or tricky to unscrew the L plate slightly, pan it around and swap the battery and then replace back.
The issue is that the battery storage opening compartment takes up a far larger area of the base, it's about a full 1/3rd, and the KP being quite small in the first place does make for a challenge for manufacturers.

Really the L plate needs to be more like a ∟(where both sides are approximate the same length). Perhaps filing a L Plate down will work, I'm gonna have a hunt about...

EDIT: I think the cheapest option would be to grab a MPU105 L Universal Quick Release Plate, where the screw doesn't run length ways along the plate but has a choice of holes spanning width ways, like so;

Move screw, cut away plate that blocks the battery compartment, file and smooth down cut.

Attached Images

Last edited by BruceBanner; 10-23-2017 at 05:44 PM.

C_Jones · 02-16-2018, 03:47 PM

Originally posted by jules

@C_Jones

Does it twist about at all, concerend with that with a generic plate, without a lip for the camera base, will twist under load in vertical compositions with something like a 50-135mm on?
It looks like you lose access to the battery, is that correct?
Side access looks good though...

I know it has been a time since this thread was posted, but I just wanted to post an answer.

The plate will not move if it is tight, but I have had instances where it has moved (twisted) a small amount. The access to the battery door can be achieved by just loosening the D-Ring screw on the plate and moving the plate a small amount.

This is a new shortcut to a current plate that is similar to mine (below).

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Universal-MPU100-Quick-Release-L-Plate-Bracket-for-...75.c100623.m-1

**BruceBanner** · 02-16-2018, 04:01 PM

Originally posted by C_Jones

I know it has been a time since this thread was posted, but I just wanted to post an answer.

The plate will not move if it is tight, but I have had instances where it has moved (twisted) a small amount. The access to the battery door can be achieved by just loosening the D-Ring screw on the plate and moving the plate a small amount.

This is a new shortcut to a current plate that is similar to mine (below).

Universal MPU100 Quick Release L Plate Bracket for Camera Benro Arca Swiss P5FS | eBay

Yeh this is what I currently do with the generic plates on the KP etc when I can't get in, loosen, pivot slightly and access is possible, no biggy really huh.

C_Jones · 02-16-2018, 06:54 PM

Originally posted by BruceBanner

Yeh this is what I currently do with the generic plates on the KP etc when I can't get in, loosen, pivot slightly and access is possible, no biggy really huh.

I usually move it (the L plate base) just to the side enough to open the door and switch out the batteries. It really is not a tedious thing for me. The plate is interchangeable between my cameras and does what I need.

**caliscouser** · 02-16-2018, 09:29 PM

From my estimates this A6300 plate looks almost millimeter perfect for the KP.

Should allow full access to the battery (just).
Shutter release access? Not sure, might work.

The only issue is it has a raised lip on the base plate which would have to be removed. What do you think?

Quick Release L-Shaped Tripod Plate Bracket For Sony FLS-A6300/A6000 Camera | eBay

**caliscouser** · 02-16-2018, 09:44 PM

This may work out of box for the KP

Desmond L Plate DAL-1 Quick Release Arca RRS Compatible / Camera / Tripod Head | eBay

C_Jones · 02-17-2018, 10:49 AM

I would still prefer the type I pointed out because it (the base) is padded, has a d-ring screw, no raised lip on the base, the structure is not difficult to deal with, and it is simple to use.

**BruceBanner** · 02-17-2018, 07:40 PM - **1 Like**

Yeh I like the D Rings on the L Plates.

2old4toys · 02-22-2018, 11:06 PM

Hi, where can I get that bracket?
Thanks

04-07-2017, 08:36 AM	#1
jules Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Carlisle Cumbria England Posts: 68	"L" Bracket for KP... Staff note: This post may contain affiliate links, which means Pentax Forums may earn a small commission if a visitor clicks through and makes a purchase. If you would like to support the forum directly, you may also make a donation here. Might as well get this one rolling along, early days yet, I know. Contacted Sunwayfoto and Kirk I think it was but they arn't planning anything, from what they tell me, so is there anything out there on the horizon? Is there a long body plate that anyone knows about that when you attach it to camera actually doesn't shift under load, not an "L" bracket I know but it might do, any intel guys?

02-16-2018, 03:47 PM	#8
C_Jones Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: NY Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,084	Originally posted by jules @C_Jones Does it twist about at all, concerend with that with a generic plate, without a lip for the camera base, will twist under load in vertical compositions with something like a 50-135mm on? It looks like you lose access to the battery, is that correct? Side access looks good though... I know it has been a time since this thread was posted, but I just wanted to post an answer. The plate will not move if it is tight, but I have had instances where it has moved (twisted) a small amount. The access to the battery door can be achieved by just loosening the D-Ring screw on the plate and moving the plate a small amount. This is a new shortcut to a current plate that is similar to mine (below). https://www.ebay.com/itm/Universal-MPU100-Quick-Release-L-Plate-Bracket-for-...75.c100623.m-1 Last edited by C_Jones; 02-16-2018 at 03:54 PM.

02-16-2018, 09:29 PM	#11
caliscouser Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: SF Bay Area, CA Photos: Albums Posts: 1,037	From my estimates this A6300 plate looks almost millimeter perfect for the KP. Should allow full access to the battery (just). Shutter release access? Not sure, might work. The only issue is it has a raised lip on the base plate which would have to be removed. What do you think? Quick Release L-Shaped Tripod Plate Bracket For Sony FLS-A6300/A6000 Camera \| eBay Attached Images

02-16-2018, 09:44 PM	#12
caliscouser Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: SF Bay Area, CA Photos: Albums Posts: 1,037	This may work out of box for the KP Desmond L Plate DAL-1 Quick Release Arca RRS Compatible / Camera / Tripod Head \| eBay Attached Images

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04-07-2017, 10:56 AM	#2
C_Jones Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: NY Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,084	I use the following L plate with my K-3II and K-5IIs. It has cushions on the base and a D ring screw for securing to the camera. https://www.amazon.com/Fotasy-LPM-Universal-Release-Cleaning/dp/B00W995BM2/r...ywords=l-plate

04-08-2017, 09:47 PM	#3
jules Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Carlisle Cumbria England Posts: 68 Original Poster	@C_Jones Originally posted by C_Jones I use the following L plate with my K-3II and K-5IIs. It has cushions on the base and a D ring screw for securing to the camera. amazon.com : Fotasy LPM Universal L Quick Release Plate Bracket for Arca Swiss Type Tripod Ball Head with Premier Cleaning Cloth (Black) : Camera & Photo?tag=pentaxforums-20& Does it twist about at all, concerend with that with a generic plate, without a lip for the camera base, will twist under load in vertical compositions with something like a 50-135mm on? It looks like you lose access to the battery, is that correct? Side access looks good though...

04-12-2017, 07:44 PM	#4
ashurbanipal Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Lincoln, Nebraska Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 515	I use this one with my K-30; not sure how much the dimensions on the KP differ, but I would imagine it should work: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00S1MI6L4/ref=dp_cerb_1?tag=pentaxforums-20& Doesn't twist since it has a (removable) stop. I did add a thin layer of cork (the self-adhesive kind intended to line shelves/drawers). Primarily because my camera's white and I was worried (needlessly, it turns out) about scratching it, but I imagine you could skip that step. I haven't seen the bottom of the KP, but the plate does block the battery door on the K-30. However, it's only partially blocked, so I can loosen the plate slightly and twist it out of the way to change the battery without removing the plate entirely. I haven't seen a KP in person, so not sure how the battery door compares. Using the middle hole to mount to the camera, there's just over 39mm from the tripod hole to the edge of the plate, which is about 5mm too long. As far as support goes, it does fine in vertical orientation with the 55-300 or my old Sigma 105 macro, which are the heaviest lenses I've used it with. Looks like the 50-135 is another 200g or so; if I had that lens I'd certainly try it with this plate and would be surprised if it didn't hold up. Hope that helps! --Steve

04-15-2017, 10:34 PM	#5
jules Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Carlisle Cumbria England Posts: 68 Original Poster	And it's Sunwayfoto, which is always good!

05-10-2017, 02:18 PM	#6
jules Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Carlisle Cumbria England Posts: 68 Original Poster	I've emailed Sunwayfoto, Kirk and RRS and I have been informed that none of em intend to make a KP specific "L" Bracket, anyone know, anyone who might? I don't want something too generic that gets in the way of battery doors etc but something dedicated to the body, it's likely to be around for a while, even though it may comparitively sell less, maybe the Koreans???

10-23-2017, 05:27 PM	#7
BruceBanner Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 5,404	I'm gonna start looking into this. Discovered today that the generic L Plate I use for my K-1 (which I modified slightly so that I can access the battery compartment fine) doesn't actually work very well at all with the KP. I mean it works, it fits nicely, you just can't open the battery compartment. In practice I think I won't find it a big deal, it's not hard or tricky to unscrew the L plate slightly, pan it around and swap the battery and then replace back. The issue is that the battery storage opening compartment takes up a far larger area of the base, it's about a full 1/3rd, and the KP being quite small in the first place does make for a challenge for manufacturers. Really the L plate needs to be more like a ∟(where both sides are approximate the same length). Perhaps filing a L Plate down will work, I'm gonna have a hunt about... EDIT: I think the cheapest option would be to grab a MPU105 L Universal Quick Release Plate, where the screw doesn't run length ways along the plate but has a choice of holes spanning width ways, like so; Move screw, cut away plate that blocks the battery compartment, file and smooth down cut. Attached Images Last edited by BruceBanner; 10-23-2017 at 05:44 PM.

02-16-2018, 04:01 PM	#9
BruceBanner Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 5,404	Originally posted by C_Jones I know it has been a time since this thread was posted, but I just wanted to post an answer. The plate will not move if it is tight, but I have had instances where it has moved (twisted) a small amount. The access to the battery door can be achieved by just loosening the D-Ring screw on the plate and moving the plate a small amount. This is a new shortcut to a current plate that is similar to mine (below). Universal MPU100 Quick Release L Plate Bracket for Camera Benro Arca Swiss P5FS \| eBay Yeh this is what I currently do with the generic plates on the KP etc when I can't get in, loosen, pivot slightly and access is possible, no biggy really huh.

02-16-2018, 06:54 PM	#10
C_Jones Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: NY Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,084	Originally posted by BruceBanner Yeh this is what I currently do with the generic plates on the KP etc when I can't get in, loosen, pivot slightly and access is possible, no biggy really huh. I usually move it (the L plate base) just to the side enough to open the door and switch out the batteries. It really is not a tedious thing for me. The plate is interchangeable between my cameras and does what I need.

02-17-2018, 10:49 AM	#13
C_Jones Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: NY Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,084	I would still prefer the type I pointed out because it (the base) is padded, has a d-ring screw, no raised lip on the base, the structure is not difficult to deal with, and it is simple to use.

02-22-2018, 11:06 PM	#15
2old4toys Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2018 Posts: 391	Hi, where can I get that bracket? Thanks