No `X` mode?

**Archimedes the Dog** · 10-15-2019, 09:10 AM

I have been reading the manual for the KP, and I don't understand how I use an external flash. Historically, there has been an `X` setting on the mode dial for setting the shutter speed to 1/180 and this mode would trigger the hotshoe, how does one accomplish this on the KP? Sorry if I am being dim... (pun intended)

Vasyl · 10-15-2019, 09:21 AM

Originally posted by Archimedes the Dog

I have been reading the manual for the KP, and I don't understand how I use an external flash. Historically, there has been an `X` setting on the mode dial for setting the shutter speed to 1/180 and this mode would trigger the hotshoe, how does one accomplish this on the KP? Sorry if I am being dim... (pun intended)

Have you tried just to plug a flash to your camera and see what happens? You may be surprised to see that it works w/o the setting. Wouldn't that be a miracle?

stevebrot · 10-15-2019, 09:22 AM

X mode has been missing on other than flagship models ~~in recent years~~ for a long time. When a Pentax-brand or other flash supporting Pentax protocol is mounted, the camera will automatically limit shutter speed to X-sync or lower. The workaround with non-dedicated flash is to use M mode and stay below the X-sync speed (1/180s).*

Steve

* The "hot" shoe is always "hot", though it will not fire a flash above 1/180s. Although I prefer M mode for non-dedicated flash, the same is true for all other exposure modes.

**Archimedes the Dog** · 10-15-2019, 09:26 AM

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Originally posted by stevebrot

X mode has been missing on other than flagship models in recent years. When a Pentax-brand or other flash supporting Pentax protocol is mounted, the camera will automatically limit shutter speed to X-sync or lower. The workaround with non-dedicated flash is to use M mode and stay below the X-sync speed (1/180s).

Steve

Thanks, what i typically put on the hotshoe is a trigger for an external flash, i doubt either Godox or Yongnuo triggers (the ones I use) will be detected by the KP.

---------- Post added 10-15-19 at 09:29 AM ----------

Originally posted by Vasyl

Have you tried just to plug a flash to your camera and see what happens? You may be surprised to see that it works w/o the setting. Wouldn't that be a miracle?

Actually, with my aftermarket flash triggers I think it would be a "miracle" haha.

Vasyl · 10-15-2019, 09:40 AM

Originally posted by Archimedes the Dog

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Thanks, what i typically put on the hotshoe is a trigger for an external flash, i doubt either Godox or Yongnuo triggers (the ones I use) will be detected by the KP.

---------- Post added 10-15-19 at 09:29 AM ----------

Actually, with my aftermarket flash triggers I think it would be a "miracle" haha.

Then, it would be a miracle for any camera. good luck! :-)

**Crooski** · 10-15-2019, 11:22 AM

Cactus triggers work with the KP And if you have a Pentax flash, you can use it as an external flash

Set the KP for wireless flash control

10-15-2019, 09:10 AM	#1
Archimedes the Dog Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Boise, ID Posts: 1,146	No `X` mode? I have been reading the manual for the KP, and I don't understand how I use an external flash. Historically, there has been an `X` setting on the mode dial for setting the shutter speed to 1/180 and this mode would trigger the hotshoe, how does one accomplish this on the KP? Sorry if I am being dim... (pun intended)

10-15-2019, 09:22 AM	#3
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	X mode has been missing on other than flagship models ~~in recent years~~ for a long time. When a Pentax-brand or other flash supporting Pentax protocol is mounted, the camera will automatically limit shutter speed to X-sync or lower. The workaround with non-dedicated flash is to use M mode and stay below the X-sync speed (1/180s).* Steve * The "hot" shoe is always "hot", though it will not fire a flash above 1/180s. Although I prefer M mode for non-dedicated flash, the same is true for all other exposure modes. Last edited by stevebrot; 10-15-2019 at 09:40 AM. Reason: completeness

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10-15-2019, 09:21 AM	#2
Vasyl Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Photos: Gallery Posts: 648	Originally posted by Archimedes the Dog I have been reading the manual for the KP, and I don't understand how I use an external flash. Historically, there has been an `X` setting on the mode dial for setting the shutter speed to 1/180 and this mode would trigger the hotshoe, how does one accomplish this on the KP? Sorry if I am being dim... (pun intended) Have you tried just to plug a flash to your camera and see what happens? You may be surprised to see that it works w/o the setting. Wouldn't that be a miracle?

10-15-2019, 09:26 AM	#4
Archimedes the Dog Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Boise, ID Posts: 1,146 Original Poster	[/COLOR] Originally posted by stevebrot X mode has been missing on other than flagship models in recent years. When a Pentax-brand or other flash supporting Pentax protocol is mounted, the camera will automatically limit shutter speed to X-sync or lower. The workaround with non-dedicated flash is to use M mode and stay below the X-sync speed (1/180s). Steve Thanks, what i typically put on the hotshoe is a trigger for an external flash, i doubt either Godox or Yongnuo triggers (the ones I use) will be detected by the KP. ---------- Post added 10-15-19 at 09:29 AM ---------- Originally posted by Vasyl Have you tried just to plug a flash to your camera and see what happens? You may be surprised to see that it works w/o the setting. Wouldn't that be a miracle? Actually, with my aftermarket flash triggers I think it would be a "miracle" haha.

10-15-2019, 09:40 AM	#5
Vasyl Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Photos: Gallery Posts: 648	Originally posted by Archimedes the Dog [/COLOR] Thanks, what i typically put on the hotshoe is a trigger for an external flash, i doubt either Godox or Yongnuo triggers (the ones I use) will be detected by the KP. ---------- Post added 10-15-19 at 09:29 AM ---------- Actually, with my aftermarket flash triggers I think it would be a "miracle" haha. Then, it would be a miracle for any camera. good luck! :-)

10-15-2019, 11:22 AM	#6
Crooski Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Rozenburg , Zuid-Holland Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,678	Cactus triggers work with the KP And if you have a Pentax flash, you can use it as an external flash Set the KP for wireless flash control

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