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12-17-2020, 08:34 AM   #31
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The more I think about this the more it inflates my dilemma... now I am stuck between the 20-40 and the 16-85. and my question now is.... which lens can produce sharp portraits and product photography images. I am willing to adapt and master each one of those lens. If I get the 20-40 I am willing to adapt with the 40mm for the close-ups BUT I worry for the 16-85 being too heavy for daily carriage. Also will I be comfortable carrying the 16-85 on my shoulder all day in a street-photography day or is is the 20-40 more ideal.

I know I placed too many questions but I really really don't know what to choose any more hahahah!

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A 55-300 PLM would be the perfect companion to the 16-85.
Amen ! Exactly what I just did and couldn't be happier ...

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The more I think about this the more it inflates my dilemma... now I am stuck between the 20-40 and the 16-85. and my question now is.... which lens can produce sharp portraits and product photography images. I am willing to adapt and master each one of those lens. If I get the 20-40 I am willing to adapt with the 40mm for the close-ups BUT I worry for the 16-85 being too heavy for daily carriage. Also will I be comfortable carrying the 16-85 on my shoulder all day in a street-photography day or is is the 20-40 more ideal.

I know I placed too many questions but I really really don't know what to choose any more hahahah!
For portraits you already have 2 capable 50mm lenses !
I have the HD DA 20-40 Limited , and just aquired the 16-85.
There is a large size difference and I prefer the 20-40 most of the time to carry except when I need wider than 20mm....everything is a trade off.
For some reason I think you might be happier overall with the 20-40 limited.
You will end up with a headache for 5 days from thinking to hard...anyway I did

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my question now is.... which lens can produce sharp portraits and product photography images.
They probably both can, but if sharpness is the defining quality the DA 16-85 may be the better choice.
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Also will I be comfortable carrying the 16-85 on my shoulder all day in a street-photography day or is is the 20-40 more ideal.
For this, I think the DA 20-40 would be the better choice.
So you have to work out which matters more to you.
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feel that Id prefer to "master" the 16-85 or even a fixed lens than invest in a FF right now
Learning how well a particular lens works with a particular camera, in all circumstances, will yield better results.

This is why the Single In Challenge can be very beneficial, participants agree to use the same lens and camera for one month, taking and posting at least one image a day with that combination. After 30 days, one really gets a feel for the combo.

Since most Pentaxians involved in SIC freely offer critiques and advice, it's very helpful in developing one's skills with that combo as well.

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Hey everyone! I would like to thank you ALL! for your guidance and help and all y'alls opinions!
I have to inform you that I just bought the 20-40 Limited last night therefore no more dilemmas! hahah! I cannot wait to master this beautiful glass and I shall post my thoughts and review as soon as I get it!
again thank you all!!!!
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Hey everyone! I would like to thank you ALL! for your guidance and help and all y'alls opinions!
I have to inform you that I just bought the 20-40 Limited last night therefore no more dilemmas! hahah! I cannot wait to master this beautiful glass and I shall post my thoughts and review as soon as I get it!
again thank you all!!!!
I don't think you will regret it. For daily carry, especially on the KP, it's a truly wonderful lens. Sharp, compact, light, and weather resistant. In case you start second guessing yourself, I've owned most of the glass listed in this thread at one time or another. If you want to go really wide, the 15mm F4 Limited won't take up much space in your bag. If you want to go really long, the 55-300 PLM will compliment the 20-40 nicely. I once owned the 16-85 AND the 18-135 at the same time. I might have gotten a few more "keepers" on a daily outing with the 16-85 but the difference in weight (and price) between these two lenses is not insignificant! I ended up selling the 16-85 and kept the 18-135, despite it producing slightly less IQ (arguably), just in case I ever leave the house without having a specific sort of photography in mind, and don't want to risk changing lenses in the elements. I feel it truly is a great "swiss army knife" lens, for single lens general carry. That said, I know most of my shots are in the range of the 20-40 and I feel it can quite adequately allow me to leave the 21 LTD, 35 LTD and the 40 LTD at home, especially since it's weather resistant and the others are not.
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A 55-300 PLM would be IS the perfect companion to the 16-85.
FIFY!

Oddly, sometimes on super-bright days in the summer on the water I find the 16-85 almost TOO sharp. Birds, in particular, come off almost looking like mounted museum specimens. For those, I actually desharpen a tiny bit bit over default.
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Hey everyone! I would like to thank you ALL! for your guidance and help and all y'alls opinions!
I have to inform you that I just bought the 20-40 Limited last night therefore no more dilemmas! hahah! I cannot wait to master this beautiful glass and I shall post my thoughts and review as soon as I get it!
again thank you all!!!!
Congratulations, I predict that you will love the lens/camera combo, I know I do.

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