KP Firmware 1.3 released

**AgentL** · 04-16-2021, 04:36 PM

Originally posted by Bertrand3000

I think I've seen somewhere that a particular feature was meant to be added to the KP in a firmware update. It was words from Ricoh soon after the KP release. Of course, firmware updates stopped very quickly, and promise forgotten... until today. And there is this version number gap. Do anyone remembers what it was? I cannot seem to be able to find it.

I also found it kind of frustrating how little firmware upgrade support the KP has gotten.

**UncleVanya** · 04-16-2021, 08:49 PM

Originally posted by AgentL

I also found it kind of frustrating how little firmware upgrade support the KP has gotten.

I’m not sure I understand. My k100d super never had a single firmware past the original. I always assumed it meant there was nothing wrong with the initial version.

**zzaletel** · 04-16-2021, 09:20 PM

Something about not always being able to get what you want, but at least getting what you need.

Bertrand3000 · 04-17-2021, 02:11 AM

Originally posted by 3by2

Was it mechanical video stabilization through IBIS

Yes, that was that, I finally found the reference in the Pentaxforums official review.

Quote:

During a February, 2017 interview, Pentax representatives hinted that mechanical stabilization (using the sensor Shake Reduction system) would be enabled in the KP through a firmware update. As of mid-2017, this has not been done, though.

From : Pentax KP Review - Movie Mode | PentaxForums.com Reviews

Pentax KP was initially a flagship, then a higher-end model. Yet, firmware upgrades stopped very quickly (until this month). Why it is bad? Because it makes feel the product is no longer supported.

Pentax K100D Super was a lower model (but not pure entry level, unlike the K110D). I don't expect the same support for the K100D Super than for the KP.

timb64 · 04-17-2021, 09:43 AM - **1 Like**

People who are disappointed with the lack of firmware updates,what do you think you’re missing out on?

It’s not like a ‘phone or computer where updates are needed for security reasons.Or that there are new lenses that require alterations to the existing firmware.

Belcik · 04-17-2021, 10:30 AM

Welll, strange... did not work out. Will try tomorrow.

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cport · 04-17-2021, 11:36 AM

Originally posted by timb64

People who are disappointed with the lack of firmware updates,what do you think you’re missing out on?

It’s not like a ‘phone or computer where updates are needed for security reasons.Or that there are new lenses that require alterations to the existing firmware.

I am not missing updates so much, but other companies use firmware updates for improving AF algorithms etc. Some improvements can be significant. I am not saying that I am not satisfied with my KP, but every improvement is welcome

What I really missed some times ago was an update uploading info about the new 11-18/2,8. I would expect that the newest lens with the newest body (that time) should "know" each other.

**Wingincamera** · 04-17-2021, 12:23 PM - **1 Like**

Updated both of my KP's without any problems. Some mentioned concerned about the lack of updates for the KP, but when you have perfection in a camera there's not a lot to update unless it's needed for a new type of lens.

**AgentL** · 04-17-2021, 05:28 PM

Originally posted by UncleVanya

I’m not sure I understand. My k100d super never had a single firmware past the original. I always assumed it meant there was nothing wrong with the initial version.

The GR III has gotten a ton of them. A couple were to add promised features which didn't make it in till after the camera was released, but they've all had decent tweaks as well, and some good new features.

stevebrot · 04-17-2021, 07:30 PM

Originally posted by UncleVanya

I’m not sure I understand.

There are some folk who feel that firmware updates are for other than bug fixes and/or support for new lenses/accessories and that lack of updates indicates inattention from the maker. Generally, with Pentax, a paucity of updates indicates that the original product was both stable and mature on release. The KP definitely fits into that category.

Originally posted by AgentL

The GR III has gotten a ton of them. A couple were to add promised features which didn't make it in till after the camera was released, but they've all had decent tweaks as well, and some good new features.

Six, in total...

FWIW...much as the GRIII is a very cool and desirable camera, it was not particular mature or stable on release in 2018. Of the six updates (the last being July 2020), three were fixes for bugs or inadequacies/deficiencies. The others were, IMHO, usability and UI tweaks that were probably intended for the original release.

Originally posted by Bertrand3000

Pentax KP was initially a flagship, then a higher-end model. Yet, firmware upgrades stopped very quickly (until this month). Why it is bad? Because it makes feel the product is no longer supported.

The question of KP as flagship has been tossed around the Pentax Forums for years. The description in the detailed PF review (July 2017) is pretty accurate, "...premium mid-range model between the upper entry-level K-70 and flagship K-3 II."

FWIW...it is good that Pentax extended firmware support for the updated lenses. That is an indication of continued support for the camera and affirmation that its owners are important.

Steve

idontstairs · 04-17-2021, 11:43 PM

I updated my firmware. Apparently I had missed a few previous updates. Everything went fine.

**steamloco76** · 04-18-2021, 05:10 AM

I received my second KP in the mail yesterday. My original was on version 1.11, the new to me camera was v1.0. After testing the new arrival, I upgraded both cameras to v1.30 with no issues. I’ll be on the lookout for any noticeable improvements.

**TwoUptons** · 04-18-2021, 06:53 AM

Originally posted by steamloco76

I received my second KP in the mail yesterday. My original was on version 1.11, the new to me camera was v1.0. After testing the new arrival, I upgraded both cameras to v1.30 with no issues. I’ll be on the lookout for any noticeable improvements.

Mine was manufactured in July of last year, and it came with 1.10 or 1.11... too late to tell now

So far it seems happy with 1.30...

-Eric

**caliscouser** · 04-18-2021, 09:12 AM

Originally posted by Belnan

"Optimized focus operation for new lenses"

How would they do that?

I'm wondering if this may have been uncovered as part of the AF development for the K3iii.
Perhaps as they were testing they found some deficiencies with respect to the AF programming for these particular lenses.

idontstairs · 04-22-2021, 08:22 PM

It may just be all in my head but my 77mm limited does NOT sound as loud anymore. I wasn't having flashbacks to the dentist office having a tooth filled. I wasn't able to give it a full day of testing but I did photograph a person riding a bicycle until the buffer filled up and they rode off to the horizon before it cleared enough to shoot again.

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04-16-2021, 04:36 PM	#16
AgentL Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: Seattle Photos: Albums Posts: 1,754	Originally posted by Bertrand3000 I think I've seen somewhere that a particular feature was meant to be added to the KP in a firmware update. It was words from Ricoh soon after the KP release. Of course, firmware updates stopped very quickly, and promise forgotten... until today. And there is this version number gap. Do anyone remembers what it was? I cannot seem to be able to find it. I also found it kind of frustrating how little firmware upgrade support the KP has gotten.

04-16-2021, 08:49 PM	#17
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,381	Originally posted by AgentL I also found it kind of frustrating how little firmware upgrade support the KP has gotten. I’m not sure I understand. My k100d super never had a single firmware past the original. I always assumed it meant there was nothing wrong with the initial version.

04-16-2021, 09:20 PM	#18
zzaletel Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Alaska Posts: 525 Original Poster	Something about not always being able to get what you want, but at least getting what you need.

04-17-2021, 02:11 AM	#19
Bertrand3000 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Posts: 2,009	Originally posted by 3by2 Was it mechanical video stabilization through IBIS Yes, that was that, I finally found the reference in the Pentaxforums official review. Quote: During a February, 2017 interview, Pentax representatives hinted that mechanical stabilization (using the sensor Shake Reduction system) would be enabled in the KP through a firmware update. As of mid-2017, this has not been done, though. From : Pentax KP Review - Movie Mode \| PentaxForums.com Reviews Pentax KP was initially a flagship, then a higher-end model. Yet, firmware upgrades stopped very quickly (until this month). Why it is bad? Because it makes feel the product is no longer supported. Pentax K100D Super was a lower model (but not pure entry level, unlike the K110D). I don't expect the same support for the K100D Super than for the KP.

04-17-2021, 09:43 AM - 1 Like	#20
timb64 Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: /Situation : Doing my best to avoid idiots! Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,510	People who are disappointed with the lack of firmware updates,what do you think you’re missing out on? It’s not like a ‘phone or computer where updates are needed for security reasons.Or that there are new lenses that require alterations to the existing firmware.

04-17-2021, 10:30 AM	#21
Belcik Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Russia,Moscow Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 377	Welll, strange... did not work out. Will try tomorrow. Отправлено с моего iPhone используя Tapatalk

04-17-2021, 11:36 AM	#22
cport Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 428	Originally posted by timb64 People who are disappointed with the lack of firmware updates,what do you think you’re missing out on? It’s not like a ‘phone or computer where updates are needed for security reasons.Or that there are new lenses that require alterations to the existing firmware. I am not missing updates so much, but other companies use firmware updates for improving AF algorithms etc. Some improvements can be significant. I am not saying that I am not satisfied with my KP, but every improvement is welcome What I really missed some times ago was an update uploading info about the new 11-18/2,8. I would expect that the newest lens with the newest body (that time) should "know" each other.

04-17-2021, 12:23 PM - 1 Like	#23
Wingincamera Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Pine Haven, Wyoming Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,182	Updated both of my KP's without any problems. Some mentioned concerned about the lack of updates for the KP, but when you have perfection in a camera there's not a lot to update unless it's needed for a new type of lens.

04-17-2021, 05:28 PM	#24
AgentL Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: Seattle Photos: Albums Posts: 1,754	Originally posted by UncleVanya I’m not sure I understand. My k100d super never had a single firmware past the original. I always assumed it meant there was nothing wrong with the initial version. The GR III has gotten a ton of them. A couple were to add promised features which didn't make it in till after the camera was released, but they've all had decent tweaks as well, and some good new features.

04-17-2021, 07:30 PM	#25
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by UncleVanya I’m not sure I understand. There are some folk who feel that firmware updates are for other than bug fixes and/or support for new lenses/accessories and that lack of updates indicates inattention from the maker. Generally, with Pentax, a paucity of updates indicates that the original product was both stable and mature on release. The KP definitely fits into that category. Originally posted by AgentL The GR III has gotten a ton of them. A couple were to add promised features which didn't make it in till after the camera was released, but they've all had decent tweaks as well, and some good new features. Six, in total... FWIW...much as the GRIII is a very cool and desirable camera, it was not particular mature or stable on release in 2018. Of the six updates (the last being July 2020), three were fixes for bugs or inadequacies/deficiencies. The others were, IMHO, usability and UI tweaks that were probably intended for the original release. Originally posted by Bertrand3000 Pentax KP was initially a flagship, then a higher-end model. Yet, firmware upgrades stopped very quickly (until this month). Why it is bad? Because it makes feel the product is no longer supported. The question of KP as flagship has been tossed around the Pentax Forums for years. The description in the detailed PF review (July 2017) is pretty accurate, "...premium mid-range model between the upper entry-level K-70 and flagship K-3 II." FWIW...it is good that Pentax extended firmware support for the updated lenses. That is an indication of continued support for the camera and affirmation that its owners are important. Steve

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04-17-2021, 11:43 PM	#26
idontstairs Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Jeffersontown Kentucky Posts: 142	I updated my firmware. Apparently I had missed a few previous updates. Everything went fine.

04-18-2021, 05:10 AM	#27
steamloco76 Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Pennsylvania Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,710	I received my second KP in the mail yesterday. My original was on version 1.11, the new to me camera was v1.0. After testing the new arrival, I upgraded both cameras to v1.30 with no issues. I’ll be on the lookout for any noticeable improvements.

04-18-2021, 06:53 AM	#28
TwoUptons Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2015 Photos: Albums Posts: 4,207	Originally posted by steamloco76 I received my second KP in the mail yesterday. My original was on version 1.11, the new to me camera was v1.0. After testing the new arrival, I upgraded both cameras to v1.30 with no issues. I’ll be on the lookout for any noticeable improvements. Mine was manufactured in July of last year, and it came with 1.10 or 1.11... too late to tell now So far it seems happy with 1.30... -Eric

04-18-2021, 09:12 AM	#29
caliscouser Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: SF Bay Area, CA Photos: Albums Posts: 1,037	Originally posted by Belnan "Optimized focus operation for new lenses" How would they do that? I'm wondering if this may have been uncovered as part of the AF development for the K3iii. Perhaps as they were testing they found some deficiencies with respect to the AF programming for these particular lenses.

04-22-2021, 08:22 PM	#30
idontstairs Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Jeffersontown Kentucky Posts: 142	It may just be all in my head but my 77mm limited does NOT sound as loud anymore. I wasn't having flashbacks to the dentist office having a tooth filled. I wasn't able to give it a full day of testing but I did photograph a person riding a bicycle until the buffer filled up and they rode off to the horizon before it cleared enough to shoot again.