Originally posted by gatorguy Thats very roughly the weight of one Pentax D-LI90 battery which is good for twice as many shots as the smaller one in the KP, 800 vs 390. If you have to carry an extra one for the older camera because of the limited shots with it you're really not at all far off from the weight of the K3III. It's the lenses you use that make a difference.
Since the very good compact KP can no longer be purchased new the next best option from Pentax would be the K3III. It is slightly heavier just as you noted, but mostly due to the larger battery which many will appreciate and some KP owners would have preferred. By the time you hang the 3/4 pound grip on the KP to bring the battery life up to a more reasonable 800 shots, and needed to improve ergonomics with larger lenses that don't balance well with the body alone, you end up with a much larger and heavier kit than the K3III.
So the new Pentax is a great camera, a significant upgrade from the older KP in all most all respects, without a big hit in added size and weight. While price may be a reason not to choose it, imagining it to be big and heavy is not.
I get the love KP owners have for their cameras. They're unique in the Pentax universe, very capable, well built, and holding their value used, but it's end of the line for them. I don't think there will ever be another KP design. Take care of what you have and when ready for more or it fails there's a very worthy and significant upgrade in the K3III that's neither heavy or huge which was the presumption made in the very first thread post.
Oh, and regarding the price, it's now available new at $1699. Factory refurbished is even less. For what you get with it over any APS-C Pentax has ever offered is a brand bargain IMHO.
Too bad. A camera of K-3 series type of design will NEVER be able to compete on the same footing with mirrorless alternatives. Smaller, lighter camera bodies of high quality was a concept in league with that of the Limited series lenses. The KP is a perfect match for them. As to the the battery, I am an old film shooter, wasting fewer shots, and with a full charge, the only time I might need to reach for my spare battery during a single outing is during lengthy events shooting. Then I might decide to make use of the battery grip so I am less likely to need a battery change during the action, especially if using larger lenses for better balance in overall handling. In which case, the weight will be comparable to that of my K-1 II, which using the reasoning having been expressed here is about the same size as the K-3 III! With the larger battery in the grip together with the smaller battery in the camera, I will have far greater battery life than I would with either the K-3 III or the K-1 II, yet at about the same weight as the latter.
I carry a spare with any of my cameras, whether the KP, K-S2, K-5 IIs, or K-1 II. Usually after multiple outings, the spare will be put into use when the current battery runs low and can be charged up after that outing. Therefore, carrying a model using the smaller battery will help reduced the overall size and weight being dealt with. Of course the idea behind employing the smaller battery in the design of the KP is to enhance the lighter weight philosophy. Saying the difference in weight between it and the K-3 III is due to the smaller battery used in the KP is nonsense. Just another rationalization trying to make the two the same size. The weight difference between the two batteries is hardly anything close of a quarter pound! Just look at the weight of the two cameras without batteries.
I get the enthusiasm for the new K-3 III. I have seen very impressive results from it, particularly in some great birds shots and action shots taken, often using burst shooting. If I had a major interest in this type of subject matter, I would be on the phone with B&H tomorrow, adding a new K-3 III to my arsenal. I am glad for that cost reduction, and if I wanted one, I would take advantage of it, to be sure. Cost then is no longer an issue, as I knew it would come down. I'm not wealthy, but I can easily afford it. However. my interests are best met with what I now have. A new K-3 III would be left sitting.
The departure of the KP concept is a loss to the Pentax brand. Nothing to challenge the ongoing mirrorless expansion. What if it were decided to discontinue the compact Limited series lenses and proceed with just the kit lenses and DA* lenses? Or maybe the high-priced, quality compact Limited series can best be seen as a more ideal match for the lighter, more compact K-70 type amateur-oriented cameras?
Last edited by mikesbike; 05-07-2022 at 03:49 PM.