K-3 III - I bought one!

Paul the Sunman · 04-03-2021, 02:54 PM

Originally posted by jpzk

What's that all about??
On top of the "normal" 1.5X APSC ?

Yes.

When [Crop] is set to [1.3x], the cropping frame is displayed in the viewfinder. Perform shooting so that the subject is positioned in the frame.

It can be set in the menus, or more conveniently with the Smart button and dial.

**Kobie** · 04-03-2021, 03:15 PM

Originally posted by jpzk

What's that all about??
On top of the "normal" 1.5X APSC ?

Yup. There was a quick mention of it somewhere along the lines of the various trinkets of info before the official reveal.
Page 48 on the right hand side of the owners manual.

**Ex Finn.** · 04-03-2021, 03:29 PM

Am I missing something, that thing is available to be ordered? Here we come B&H...
Got excited, not there...

noelpolar · 04-03-2021, 04:02 PM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by Ex Finn.

Am I missing something, that thing is available to be ordered? Here we come B&H...
Got excited, not there...

They are doing their easter thing.... so a few more days patience is needed.

Some Australians used their great great grand parents skills and snuck in some orders through a back door (we are a country founded on people who used alternate ways to provide...).

**Cerebum** · 04-04-2021, 01:35 AM

Originally posted by Kobie

Don't forget the additional 1.3x crop mode in the K-3 III as well

I am being a bit dim. Is this like a built in 1.3x tc without the downsides (1.3x F stop)?

**acoufap** · 04-04-2021, 01:50 AM

Originally posted by Cerebum

I am being a bit dim. Is this like a built in 1.3x tc without the downsides (1.3x F stop)?

This has nothing to do with TC-like operation. It‘s about cropping and not changing an optical formula.

Since there‘s only a single dimensions raw format, it may only concern jpg SOOC shooters.

For raw shooters it would be another help for composing.

But maybe the crop dimensions are also part of the raw file like in Square mode of the k-1. It‘s definitely not reduced sensor read-out like APS-C mode of the k-1.

If such a crop is used by your raw converter depends on your specific raw converter.

**Cerebum** · 04-04-2021, 12:10 PM

Originally posted by acoufap

This has nothing to do with TC-like operation. It‘s about cropping and not changing an optical formula.

Since there‘s only a single dimensions raw format, it may only concern jpg SOOC shooters.

For raw shooters it would be another help for composing.

But maybe the crop dimensions are also part of the raw file like in Square mode of the k-1. It‘s definitely not reduced sensor read-out like APS-C mode of the k-1.

If such a crop is used by your raw converter depends on your specific raw converter.

Thanks 😁 there are a few "features" aimed at jpeg shooters. I thought most of us shot raw lol

mtkeller · 04-04-2021, 12:23 PM

Originally posted by Cerebum

Thanks 😁 there are a few "features" aimed at jpeg shooters. I thought most of us shot raw lol

Pentax seems to really be trying to push the “custom image” settings that they have for in-camera JPEGs. If you look at some of the sample images that accompany some of the ambassador “impressions” videos (mainly from Japanese photographers), they specify the custom image setting used right there with the usual EXIF data. While I currently always shoot raw, I am realizing that there are good light situations where I don’t need all that data and figuring out the right in-camera JPEG settings to mimic what I normally do in post in LrC may be more efficient than setting up a present to do things in post. If all I have to do in post is crop and maybe a little dodging and burning, that could be very helpful for something like sports.

**Cerebum** · 04-04-2021, 12:37 PM

Originally posted by mtkeller

Pentax seems to really be trying to push the “custom image” settings that they have for in-camera JPEGs. If you look at some of the sample images that accompany some of the ambassador “impressions” videos (mainly from Japanese photographers), they specify the custom image setting used right there with the usual EXIF data. While I currently always shoot raw, I am realizing that there are good light situations where I don’t need all that data and figuring out the right in-camera JPEG settings to mimic what I normally do in post in LrC may be more efficient than setting up a present to do things in post. If all I have to do in post is crop and maybe a little dodging and burning, that could be very helpful for something like sports.

I have a fuji xe1 with film sims and sometimes use customised jpeg settings in my KP but I do miss the control I have with RAW. I might just have to do a month of jpegs, just to explore the possibilities

mtkeller · 04-04-2021, 12:43 PM

Originally posted by Cerebum

I have a fuji xe1 with film sims and sometimes use customised jpeg settings in my KP but I do miss the control I have with RAW. I might just have to do a month of jpegs, just to explore the possibilities

I certainly won’t give up raw for my travel, landscape, wildlife, etc. photography. I won’t even bother with raw+ for them. Daylight sports tends to be a situation where I don’t need to recover shadow detail. That said, I am a bit wary of blowing out highlights on white uniforms in bright sunlight, so maybe I should stick to raw and make myself a preset for LrC. Or, as you suggest, try JPEG only for a set amount of time. It certainly would save me from swapping out memory cards so often!

ncallender · 04-04-2021, 03:57 PM

I get the impression that in Asian cultures, shooting jpeg or processing in camera and posting directly to social media is much more common than in western cultures. I think that is what has made Fuji sell so well and probably why pentax has pored so much effort into sooc processing in the last few models. For those who actually live in Asia, correct me if that's not accurate.

**Larrymc** · 04-04-2021, 07:47 PM

Originally posted by mtkeller

Pentax seems to really be trying to push the “custom image” settings that they have for in-camera JPEGs. If you look at some of the sample images that accompany some of the ambassador “impressions” videos (mainly from Japanese photographers), they specify the custom image setting used right there with the usual EXIF data. While I currently always shoot raw, I am realizing that there are good light situations where I don’t need all that data and figuring out the right in-camera JPEG settings to mimic what I normally do in post in LrC may be more efficient than setting up a present to do things in post. If all I have to do in post is crop and maybe a little dodging and burning, that could be very helpful for something like sports.

Until the MkIII gets into the hands of software companies like Adobe and in my case DXO so they are able to profile the camera, you may have to learn to deal with the JPWG renderings of the camera.

mtkeller · 04-04-2021, 07:51 PM

Originally posted by Larrymc

Until the MkIII gets into the hands of software companies like Adobe and in my case DXO so they are able to profile the camera, you may have to learn to deal with the JPWG renderings of the camera.

I should DNG, so I’m thinking everything should be fine. I got the impression that some of the ambassadors were shooting raw and able to open in LrC just fine.

**vrphoto** · 04-05-2021, 03:53 AM

There's a discussion about this in Digital Processing, Software, and Printing → What to expect from K3 iii and various processing programs?

To repeat what's said there - if you shoot RAW in DNG format, Lightroom and ACR will recognize and load. If you shoot in PEF the format won't be recognised until Adobe has updated the software.
(can't speak for any other RAW processing software)

**Larrymc** · 04-06-2021, 06:52 PM - **2 Likes**

Pre-Ordered a black MkIII body from B&H an hour or so ago!! Now the wait begins!

04-04-2021, 01:50 AM	#36
acoufap Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Munich, Germany Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,187	Originally posted by Cerebum I am being a bit dim. Is this like a built in 1.3x tc without the downsides (1.3x F stop)? This has nothing to do with TC-like operation. It‘s about cropping and not changing an optical formula. Since there‘s only a single dimensions raw format, it may only concern jpg SOOC shooters. For raw shooters it would be another help for composing. But maybe the crop dimensions are also part of the raw file like in Square mode of the k-1. It‘s definitely not reduced sensor read-out like APS-C mode of the k-1. If such a crop is used by your raw converter depends on your specific raw converter. Last edited by acoufap; 04-04-2021 at 01:57 AM.

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04-03-2021, 02:54 PM	#31
Paul the Sunman Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Melbourne Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,843	Originally posted by jpzk What's that all about?? On top of the "normal" 1.5X APSC ? Yes. When [Crop] is set to [1.3x], the cropping frame is displayed in the viewfinder. Perform shooting so that the subject is positioned in the frame. It can be set in the menus, or more conveniently with the Smart button and dial.

04-03-2021, 03:15 PM	#32
Kobie Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Bowmanville Photos: Albums Posts: 1,211	Originally posted by jpzk What's that all about?? On top of the "normal" 1.5X APSC ? Yup. There was a quick mention of it somewhere along the lines of the various trinkets of info before the official reveal. Page 48 on the right hand side of the owners manual.

04-03-2021, 03:29 PM	#33
Ex Finn. Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southern Maryland. Espoo. Kouvola. Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 7,975	Am I missing something, that thing is available to be ordered? Here we come B&H... Got excited, not there...

04-03-2021, 04:02 PM - 3 Likes	#34
noelpolar Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Goolwa, SA Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,310 Original Poster	Originally posted by Ex Finn. Am I missing something, that thing is available to be ordered? Here we come B&H... Got excited, not there... They are doing their easter thing.... so a few more days patience is needed. Some Australians used their great great grand parents skills and snuck in some orders through a back door (we are a country founded on people who used alternate ways to provide...).

04-04-2021, 01:35 AM	#35
Cerebum Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Lancaster Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,828	Originally posted by Kobie Don't forget the additional 1.3x crop mode in the K-3 III as well I am being a bit dim. Is this like a built in 1.3x tc without the downsides (1.3x F stop)?

04-04-2021, 12:10 PM	#37
Cerebum Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Lancaster Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,828	Originally posted by acoufap This has nothing to do with TC-like operation. It‘s about cropping and not changing an optical formula. Since there‘s only a single dimensions raw format, it may only concern jpg SOOC shooters. For raw shooters it would be another help for composing. But maybe the crop dimensions are also part of the raw file like in Square mode of the k-1. It‘s definitely not reduced sensor read-out like APS-C mode of the k-1. If such a crop is used by your raw converter depends on your specific raw converter. Thanks 😁 there are a few "features" aimed at jpeg shooters. I thought most of us shot raw lol

04-04-2021, 12:23 PM	#38
mtkeller Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Sioux City, IA Photos: Gallery Posts: 938	Originally posted by Cerebum Thanks 😁 there are a few "features" aimed at jpeg shooters. I thought most of us shot raw lol Pentax seems to really be trying to push the “custom image” settings that they have for in-camera JPEGs. If you look at some of the sample images that accompany some of the ambassador “impressions” videos (mainly from Japanese photographers), they specify the custom image setting used right there with the usual EXIF data. While I currently always shoot raw, I am realizing that there are good light situations where I don’t need all that data and figuring out the right in-camera JPEG settings to mimic what I normally do in post in LrC may be more efficient than setting up a present to do things in post. If all I have to do in post is crop and maybe a little dodging and burning, that could be very helpful for something like sports.

04-04-2021, 12:37 PM	#39
Cerebum Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Lancaster Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,828	Originally posted by mtkeller Pentax seems to really be trying to push the “custom image” settings that they have for in-camera JPEGs. If you look at some of the sample images that accompany some of the ambassador “impressions” videos (mainly from Japanese photographers), they specify the custom image setting used right there with the usual EXIF data. While I currently always shoot raw, I am realizing that there are good light situations where I don’t need all that data and figuring out the right in-camera JPEG settings to mimic what I normally do in post in LrC may be more efficient than setting up a present to do things in post. If all I have to do in post is crop and maybe a little dodging and burning, that could be very helpful for something like sports. I have a fuji xe1 with film sims and sometimes use customised jpeg settings in my KP but I do miss the control I have with RAW. I might just have to do a month of jpegs, just to explore the possibilities

04-04-2021, 12:43 PM	#40
mtkeller Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Sioux City, IA Photos: Gallery Posts: 938	Originally posted by Cerebum I have a fuji xe1 with film sims and sometimes use customised jpeg settings in my KP but I do miss the control I have with RAW. I might just have to do a month of jpegs, just to explore the possibilities I certainly won’t give up raw for my travel, landscape, wildlife, etc. photography. I won’t even bother with raw+ for them. Daylight sports tends to be a situation where I don’t need to recover shadow detail. That said, I am a bit wary of blowing out highlights on white uniforms in bright sunlight, so maybe I should stick to raw and make myself a preset for LrC. Or, as you suggest, try JPEG only for a set amount of time. It certainly would save me from swapping out memory cards so often!

04-04-2021, 03:57 PM	#41
ncallender Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 128	I get the impression that in Asian cultures, shooting jpeg or processing in camera and posting directly to social media is much more common than in western cultures. I think that is what has made Fuji sell so well and probably why pentax has pored so much effort into sooc processing in the last few models. For those who actually live in Asia, correct me if that's not accurate.

04-04-2021, 07:47 PM	#42
Larrymc Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Mississippi, USA Posts: 5,251	Originally posted by mtkeller Pentax seems to really be trying to push the “custom image” settings that they have for in-camera JPEGs. If you look at some of the sample images that accompany some of the ambassador “impressions” videos (mainly from Japanese photographers), they specify the custom image setting used right there with the usual EXIF data. While I currently always shoot raw, I am realizing that there are good light situations where I don’t need all that data and figuring out the right in-camera JPEG settings to mimic what I normally do in post in LrC may be more efficient than setting up a present to do things in post. If all I have to do in post is crop and maybe a little dodging and burning, that could be very helpful for something like sports. Until the MkIII gets into the hands of software companies like Adobe and in my case DXO so they are able to profile the camera, you may have to learn to deal with the JPWG renderings of the camera.

04-04-2021, 07:51 PM	#43
mtkeller Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Sioux City, IA Photos: Gallery Posts: 938	Originally posted by Larrymc Until the MkIII gets into the hands of software companies like Adobe and in my case DXO so they are able to profile the camera, you may have to learn to deal with the JPWG renderings of the camera. I should DNG, so I’m thinking everything should be fine. I got the impression that some of the ambassadors were shooting raw and able to open in LrC just fine.

04-05-2021, 03:53 AM	#44
vrphoto Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Melbourne Posts: 150	There's a discussion about this in Digital Processing, Software, and Printing → What to expect from K3 iii and various processing programs? To repeat what's said there - if you shoot RAW in DNG format, Lightroom and ACR will recognize and load. If you shoot in PEF the format won't be recognised until Adobe has updated the software. (can't speak for any other RAW processing software)

04-06-2021, 06:52 PM - 2 Likes	#45
Larrymc Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Mississippi, USA Posts: 5,251	Pre-Ordered a black MkIII body from B&H an hour or so ago!! Now the wait begins!